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David Wulff wrote:
It is still cheaper than public transport.
Driving around by car is cheaper than public transport in the UK? :wtf:
Cheers, Vikram.
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Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:
Driving around by car is cheaper than public transport in the UK?
It's the same in Canada and the US.
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I think it's like that all over California. But, Hawii is more expensive at about $3.00 right now.
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David Wulff wrote:
It is still cheaper than public transport.
Driving around by car is cheaper than public transport in the UK? :wtf:
Cheers, Vikram.
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Public transport is cheap as chips if you are only using one route or one operator (they are privately operated companies). For me to get to work I would need to use two different operators which would require two different annual passes. The cheapest I could get it for would be about £850 ($1,652) with subsidised passes, whereas my fuel bill only comes to around £1,200 ($2,333) so it is pennies more to drive. It used to be more, but I only travel three days a week now which has basically halved my travel costs. With the busses though, my 50 minutes journey would take two and half hours in the morning, and four and a half hours in the evening. Factor in those costs, and it is significantly cheaper to drive. If I was to use the trains, I would still need to use the two bus operators to get to the stations, and then a train pass, which would basically add £450 more and save me... zero hours. (The connecting busses run at the same time.) :doh: IMO public transport is an excellent idea... for travelling within towns and cities. Once you start travelling cross county or even country then it is totally unfeasible.
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:wtf: What's the local garage rate (in p/l)? I just worked out what I pay for unleaded 89p/l at Tesco and it comes out to $6.54 / gallon. [edit]Just realised how strong £ is so even 1 or 2p will make a big difference.[/edit]
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Ed.Poore wrote:
Just realised how strong £ is so even 1 or 2p will make a big difference
That's the kicker here, the GBP is very nearly twice the USD at the moment.
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David Wulff wrote:
It is still cheaper than public transport.
Driving around by car is cheaper than public transport in the UK? :wtf:
Cheers, Vikram.
"Life isn't fair, and the world is full of unscrupulous characters. There are things worth fighting for, killing for and dying for, but it's a really small list. Chalk it up to experience, let it go, and move on to the next positive experience in your life." - Christopher Duncan.
And far quicker and more reliable. I currently have an (approximately) 100 mile round trip commute each day, which works out between an hour and an hour and a half each way to drive. I did use the train for about a year but to do the same journey, (Gloucester to Bath), by train takes at least 2 hours, (one way), involves at least one change, and a 15 - 20 minute bus journey, (one way), from railway station to office. Given that at least 1 journey, (one direction), a week runs at least an hour late, at least 3 will run up to half an hour late , and at least once a month a train is cancelled with no notice, adding significantly to my travelling time and length of working day, even if driving is more expensive the saving of my own time more than makes up for it. Public transport in the UK is a massive joke, unless you have to use it and then the Jokes on you.
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Just for curiosity, how much of that is taxes and what does the tax money go towards? Here in Michigan, I think about $0.19 of every gallon goes to federal taxes for road maintenance, $0.27 goes to the state gas tax (road), and then there's the state sales tax, at 6%, going to the general fund. BTW, I just paid $2.07(and 9/10ths)/gallon last night, all taxes included.
Dave Kreskowiak Microsoft MVP - Visual Basic
Which specific tax were you asking about? :rolleyes: We pay a road tax based on the size of our car engines, which goes towards maintaining roads (the majority comes out of council budgets though). Road tax is a one-off annual charge, not linked to fuel consumption. The tax we pay on the fuel itself is basically all a sales-based tax. On 98p per litre unleaded petrol/gas: 14.6p is VAT 47.1p is fuel tax For 1 US gallon, in US dollars, that equates to: $1.09 is VAT $3.48 is fuel tax HMRC Fuel Tax page[^] On an interesting note, that is equivalent to 280% income tax, and we are charged VAT on the fuel tax itself -- the only time in the UK when you will pay a tax on a tax. :doh: As a business user I get all my fuel VAT back again though, even on personal travel, so it works out as 83p a litre, or about 90p once you factor in the car scale charge <-- yet more tax. -- modified at 12:53 Thursday 11th January, 2007
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It's 86.9p/litre, or $6.39/US gallon here (Bournemouth, on the UK South Coast).
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You know the sad thing is that I could drive to Bournemouth, fill up my fuel tank and drive home again (a 200 mile round trip) and I would still be saving money over local prices for the 3/4 of a tank I'd be left with! :omg:
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It is still cheaper than public transport. Just. But unlike the busses I can get to work in 50 minutes instead of a seven hour round trip. :doh: You just get used to paying that much - I factor in two days pay each month just to pay for getting to the office.
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David Wulff wrote:
It is still cheaper than public transport. Just.
Are you just looking at gas costs, or also factoring in the increased depreciation of your car from driving it more?
-- Rules of thumb should not be taken for the whole hand.
Only the fuel costs. Car maintenance costs work out to about 1 months salary every year. :sigh:
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Had to take a spare PC to a sattelite center this morning in South Carolina. As I got closer, the price of gasoline dropped sharply... USD $1.86 / gallon! And this after I had to fill up last night at USD $2.01 / gallon... How are gas prices where you are? Tim
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Ed.Poore wrote:
Just realised how strong £ is so even 1 or 2p will make a big difference
That's the kicker here, the GBP is very nearly twice the USD at the moment.
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Had to take a spare PC to a sattelite center this morning in South Carolina. As I got closer, the price of gasoline dropped sharply... USD $1.86 / gallon! And this after I had to fill up last night at USD $2.01 / gallon... How are gas prices where you are? Tim
Tim Carmichael wrote:
fill up last night at USD $2.01 / gallon
Must be nice, here in southern Oregon it is currently $2.69 per gallon !
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Had to take a spare PC to a sattelite center this morning in South Carolina. As I got closer, the price of gasoline dropped sharply... USD $1.86 / gallon! And this after I had to fill up last night at USD $2.01 / gallon... How are gas prices where you are? Tim
in Raleigh NC, it was $2.25, this morning.
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Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:
Driving around by car is cheaper than public transport in the UK?
It's the same in Canada and the US.
Regards, Nish
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You poor americans. You dont live in the real world. How about current uk price at a bargain of ~ $6.57/ us gallon ?????? How do you like that?:^)
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Bill Gates Antimatter Particle wrote:
You poor americans. You dont live in the real world.
America is the real world. UK is fantasy tax land. Soon you will be wearing something that will count how many breaths you take and you will be taxed for that. The money will go to "clean air".
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John Cardinal wrote:
Really? In the city? If you factor in parking costs, insurance etc?
Well, if you own a car, you'd have insurance to pay anyway. Parking costs change things though - when I was in Toronto, the office building provided free parking for employees (it wasn't downtown anyway). But before I had a car, we took the monthly Metro-pass - and for Smitha and me - it came to CAD 220 or so. Once I got the car, though I travelled a lot more than that, I rarely spent more than 130-140 on gas (not counting long trips).
Regards, Nish
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Had to take a spare PC to a sattelite center this morning in South Carolina. As I got closer, the price of gasoline dropped sharply... USD $1.86 / gallon! And this after I had to fill up last night at USD $2.01 / gallon... How are gas prices where you are? Tim
Diesel $2.45 North of Tampa, $2.65 in West Palm Beach.
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Using a litre to US gallon conversion, and xe.com for the currency conversion, standard unleaded petrol/gas at my local garage is $7.06 per gallon.
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I'm so gangsta I eat cereal without the milkYeah, but don't forget the US gallon is smaller than the British gallon :)
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John Cardinal wrote:
Really? In the city? If you factor in parking costs, insurance etc?
Well, if you own a car, you'd have insurance to pay anyway. Parking costs change things though - when I was in Toronto, the office building provided free parking for employees (it wasn't downtown anyway). But before I had a car, we took the monthly Metro-pass - and for Smitha and me - it came to CAD 220 or so. Once I got the car, though I travelled a lot more than that, I rarely spent more than 130-140 on gas (not counting long trips).
Regards, Nish
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John Cardinal wrote: Really? In the city? If you factor in parking costs, insurance etc? Well, if you own a car, you'd have insurance to pay anyway.
depending on your insurer you may be able to get a discount for traveling less than N miles/year. While generally targeted towards people with a lightly used secondary vehicle, ie 4x4 for driving in the snow and normal car for everything else, if you rarely use your primary vehicle you can qualify for it there as well.
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