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  • V Vikram A Punathambekar

    David Wulff wrote:

    It is still cheaper than public transport.

    Driving around by car is cheaper than public transport in the UK? :wtf:

    Cheers, Vikram.


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    Rhys Gravell
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    And far quicker and more reliable. I currently have an (approximately) 100 mile round trip commute each day, which works out between an hour and an hour and a half each way to drive. I did use the train for about a year but to do the same journey, (Gloucester to Bath), by train takes at least 2 hours, (one way), involves at least one change, and a 15 - 20 minute bus journey, (one way), from railway station to office. Given that at least 1 journey, (one direction), a week runs at least an hour late, at least 3 will run up to half an hour late , and at least once a month a train is cancelled with no notice, adding significantly to my travelling time and length of working day, even if driving is more expensive the saving of my own time more than makes up for it. Public transport in the UK is a massive joke, unless you have to use it and then the Jokes on you.

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    • D Dave Kreskowiak

      Just for curiosity, how much of that is taxes and what does the tax money go towards? Here in Michigan, I think about $0.19 of every gallon goes to federal taxes for road maintenance, $0.27 goes to the state gas tax (road), and then there's the state sales tax, at 6%, going to the general fund. BTW, I just paid $2.07(and 9/10ths)/gallon last night, all taxes included.

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      David Wulff
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      Which specific tax were you asking about? :rolleyes: We pay a road tax based on the size of our car engines, which goes towards maintaining roads (the majority comes out of council budgets though). Road tax is a one-off annual charge, not linked to fuel consumption. The tax we pay on the fuel itself is basically all a sales-based tax. On 98p per litre unleaded petrol/gas: 14.6p is VAT 47.1p is fuel tax For 1 US gallon, in US dollars, that equates to: $1.09 is VAT $3.48 is fuel tax HMRC Fuel Tax page[^] On an interesting note, that is equivalent to 280% income tax, and we are charged VAT on the fuel tax itself -- the only time in the UK when you will pay a tax on a tax. :doh: As a business user I get all my fuel VAT back again though, even on personal travel, so it works out as 83p a litre, or about 90p once you factor in the car scale charge <-- yet more tax. -- modified at 12:53 Thursday 11th January, 2007


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      • J Joe Woodbury

        Colin Angus Mackay wrote:

        Error: Missing preposition before the definite article.

        Only if you're a language prescriptivist.

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        David Wulff
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        "I'm going to write someone" never makes sense. What are you going to write them on?


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        • A Anna Jayne Metcalfe

          It's 86.9p/litre, or $6.39/US gallon here (Bournemouth, on the UK South Coast).

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          David Wulff
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          You know the sad thing is that I could drive to Bournemouth, fill up my fuel tank and drive home again (a 200 mile round trip) and I would still be saving money over local prices for the 3/4 of a tank I'd be left with! :omg:


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          • D David Wulff

            It is still cheaper than public transport. Just. But unlike the busses I can get to work in 50 minutes instead of a seven hour round trip. :doh: You just get used to paying that much - I factor in two days pay each month just to pay for getting to the office.


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            Dan Neely
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            David Wulff wrote:

            It is still cheaper than public transport. Just.

            Are you just looking at gas costs, or also factoring in the increased depreciation of your car from driving it more?

            -- Rules of thumb should not be taken for the whole hand.

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            • D Dan Neely

              David Wulff wrote:

              It is still cheaper than public transport. Just.

              Are you just looking at gas costs, or also factoring in the increased depreciation of your car from driving it more?

              -- Rules of thumb should not be taken for the whole hand.

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              David Wulff
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              Only the fuel costs. Car maintenance costs work out to about 1 months salary every year. :sigh:


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              • T Tim Carmichael

                Had to take a spare PC to a sattelite center this morning in South Carolina. As I got closer, the price of gasoline dropped sharply... USD $1.86 / gallon! And this after I had to fill up last night at USD $2.01 / gallon... How are gas prices where you are? Tim

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                About double your lower price.

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                • D David Wulff

                  Ed.Poore wrote:

                  Just realised how strong £ is so even 1 or 2p will make a big difference

                  That's the kicker here, the GBP is very nearly twice the USD at the moment.


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                  Ed Poore
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                  I'm not complaining, as long as it stays (or gets better) when I need to get money to go to America in April :-D


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                  • T Tim Carmichael

                    Had to take a spare PC to a sattelite center this morning in South Carolina. As I got closer, the price of gasoline dropped sharply... USD $1.86 / gallon! And this after I had to fill up last night at USD $2.01 / gallon... How are gas prices where you are? Tim

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                    Rocky Moore
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                    Tim Carmichael wrote:

                    fill up last night at USD $2.01 / gallon

                    Must be nice, here in southern Oregon it is currently $2.69 per gallon !

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                    • T Tim Carmichael

                      Had to take a spare PC to a sattelite center this morning in South Carolina. As I got closer, the price of gasoline dropped sharply... USD $1.86 / gallon! And this after I had to fill up last night at USD $2.01 / gallon... How are gas prices where you are? Tim

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                      Chris Losinger
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                      in Raleigh NC, it was $2.25, this morning.

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                      • N Nish Nishant

                        Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:

                        Driving around by car is cheaper than public transport in the UK?

                        It's the same in Canada and the US.

                        Regards, Nish


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                        Member 96
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                        Really? In the city? If you factor in parking costs, insurance etc?

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                        • B Bill Gates Antimatter Particle

                          You poor americans. You dont live in the real world. How about current uk price at a bargain of ~ $6.57/ us gallon ?????? How do you like that?:^)

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                          Bill Gates Antimatter Particle wrote:

                          You poor americans. You dont live in the real world.

                          America is the real world. UK is fantasy tax land. Soon you will be wearing something that will count how many breaths you take and you will be taxed for that. The money will go to "clean air".

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                            Really? In the city? If you factor in parking costs, insurance etc?

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                            Nish Nishant
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                            John Cardinal wrote:

                            Really? In the city? If you factor in parking costs, insurance etc?

                            Well, if you own a car, you'd have insurance to pay anyway. Parking costs change things though - when I was in Toronto, the office building provided free parking for employees (it wasn't downtown anyway). But before I had a car, we took the monthly Metro-pass - and for Smitha and me - it came to CAD 220 or so. Once I got the car, though I travelled a lot more than that, I rarely spent more than 130-140 on gas (not counting long trips).

                            Regards, Nish


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                            • T Tim Carmichael

                              Had to take a spare PC to a sattelite center this morning in South Carolina. As I got closer, the price of gasoline dropped sharply... USD $1.86 / gallon! And this after I had to fill up last night at USD $2.01 / gallon... How are gas prices where you are? Tim

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                              Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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                              Diesel $2.45 North of Tampa, $2.65 in West Palm Beach.


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                              • D David Wulff

                                Using a litre to US gallon conversion, and xe.com for the currency conversion, standard unleaded petrol/gas at my local garage is $7.06 per gallon.


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                                Rob Manderson
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                                Yeah, but don't forget the US gallon is smaller than the British gallon :)

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                                • N Nish Nishant

                                  John Cardinal wrote:

                                  Really? In the city? If you factor in parking costs, insurance etc?

                                  Well, if you own a car, you'd have insurance to pay anyway. Parking costs change things though - when I was in Toronto, the office building provided free parking for employees (it wasn't downtown anyway). But before I had a car, we took the monthly Metro-pass - and for Smitha and me - it came to CAD 220 or so. Once I got the car, though I travelled a lot more than that, I rarely spent more than 130-140 on gas (not counting long trips).

                                  Regards, Nish


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                                  Dan Neely
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                                  Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                                  John Cardinal wrote: Really? In the city? If you factor in parking costs, insurance etc? Well, if you own a car, you'd have insurance to pay anyway.

                                  depending on your insurer you may be able to get a discount for traveling less than N miles/year. While generally targeted towards people with a lightly used secondary vehicle, ie 4x4 for driving in the snow and normal car for everything else, if you rarely use your primary vehicle you can qualify for it there as well.

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                                    Diesel $2.45 North of Tampa, $2.65 in West Palm Beach.


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                                    Chris McGlothen
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                                    Diesel is up over $3 in the NW. Bring on the Hybrids:cool:


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                                    • D David Wulff

                                      "I'm going to write someone" never makes sense. What are you going to write them on?


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                                      Joe Woodbury
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                                      It makes sense because we all know what she meant. The main argument is that you can say "I'm going to write someone a letter." In this example, the indirect object is dropped and implied. (I recall one linguist arguing that "a letter" can be dropped if a person doesn't know what medium they are going to use. A secondary argument is that prescriptivists want "to write" to maintain the narrow definition of simply creating a message in physical form. However descriptivists observe that for the verb now has an additional meaning, which is the entire process of creating and posting/delivering a message. Several other verbs have done this; "to sell", "to offer", "to get" "to show" A tertiary argument is that this is a dialectal thing. Some grammarians believe this is one of the differences between British and American English.

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                                      • T Tim Carmichael

                                        Had to take a spare PC to a sattelite center this morning in South Carolina. As I got closer, the price of gasoline dropped sharply... USD $1.86 / gallon! And this after I had to fill up last night at USD $2.01 / gallon... How are gas prices where you are? Tim

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                                        Radoslav Bielik
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                                        Some 2 days ago I paid $5.17 / gallon - dropped nicely (using Google calculator and current exchange rate). Back in August 2006 it was at $6.12 / gallon, but then the USD was stronger - using the August exchange rate, I get to $5.48 / gallon. Rado PS: I'm located in Slovakia ;)

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                                        • J Joe Woodbury

                                          It makes sense because we all know what she meant. The main argument is that you can say "I'm going to write someone a letter." In this example, the indirect object is dropped and implied. (I recall one linguist arguing that "a letter" can be dropped if a person doesn't know what medium they are going to use. A secondary argument is that prescriptivists want "to write" to maintain the narrow definition of simply creating a message in physical form. However descriptivists observe that for the verb now has an additional meaning, which is the entire process of creating and posting/delivering a message. Several other verbs have done this; "to sell", "to offer", "to get" "to show" A tertiary argument is that this is a dialectal thing. Some grammarians believe this is one of the differences between British and American English.

                                          Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke

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                                          Dan Neely
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                                          a quaternary argument is that one of the two drivers of linguistic change is sloth among the users and since noone's managed to find a way to stop the effect despite millennia of bemoaning it is to accept that it's going to happen and blow raspberries at those shrieking and wailing over the fact. ;P;P;P;P PS for the curious the other driver is metaphoric used of words to make a statement more 'intense'.

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