Gas Prices
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David Wulff wrote:
It is still cheaper than public transport. Just.
Are you just looking at gas costs, or also factoring in the increased depreciation of your car from driving it more?
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Only the fuel costs. Car maintenance costs work out to about 1 months salary every year. :sigh:
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Had to take a spare PC to a sattelite center this morning in South Carolina. As I got closer, the price of gasoline dropped sharply... USD $1.86 / gallon! And this after I had to fill up last night at USD $2.01 / gallon... How are gas prices where you are? Tim
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Ed.Poore wrote:
Just realised how strong £ is so even 1 or 2p will make a big difference
That's the kicker here, the GBP is very nearly twice the USD at the moment.
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Had to take a spare PC to a sattelite center this morning in South Carolina. As I got closer, the price of gasoline dropped sharply... USD $1.86 / gallon! And this after I had to fill up last night at USD $2.01 / gallon... How are gas prices where you are? Tim
Tim Carmichael wrote:
fill up last night at USD $2.01 / gallon
Must be nice, here in southern Oregon it is currently $2.69 per gallon !
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Had to take a spare PC to a sattelite center this morning in South Carolina. As I got closer, the price of gasoline dropped sharply... USD $1.86 / gallon! And this after I had to fill up last night at USD $2.01 / gallon... How are gas prices where you are? Tim
in Raleigh NC, it was $2.25, this morning.
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Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:
Driving around by car is cheaper than public transport in the UK?
It's the same in Canada and the US.
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You poor americans. You dont live in the real world. How about current uk price at a bargain of ~ $6.57/ us gallon ?????? How do you like that?:^)
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Bill Gates Antimatter Particle wrote:
You poor americans. You dont live in the real world.
America is the real world. UK is fantasy tax land. Soon you will be wearing something that will count how many breaths you take and you will be taxed for that. The money will go to "clean air".
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John Cardinal wrote:
Really? In the city? If you factor in parking costs, insurance etc?
Well, if you own a car, you'd have insurance to pay anyway. Parking costs change things though - when I was in Toronto, the office building provided free parking for employees (it wasn't downtown anyway). But before I had a car, we took the monthly Metro-pass - and for Smitha and me - it came to CAD 220 or so. Once I got the car, though I travelled a lot more than that, I rarely spent more than 130-140 on gas (not counting long trips).
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Had to take a spare PC to a sattelite center this morning in South Carolina. As I got closer, the price of gasoline dropped sharply... USD $1.86 / gallon! And this after I had to fill up last night at USD $2.01 / gallon... How are gas prices where you are? Tim
Diesel $2.45 North of Tampa, $2.65 in West Palm Beach.
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Using a litre to US gallon conversion, and xe.com for the currency conversion, standard unleaded petrol/gas at my local garage is $7.06 per gallon.
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I'm so gangsta I eat cereal without the milkYeah, but don't forget the US gallon is smaller than the British gallon :)
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John Cardinal wrote:
Really? In the city? If you factor in parking costs, insurance etc?
Well, if you own a car, you'd have insurance to pay anyway. Parking costs change things though - when I was in Toronto, the office building provided free parking for employees (it wasn't downtown anyway). But before I had a car, we took the monthly Metro-pass - and for Smitha and me - it came to CAD 220 or so. Once I got the car, though I travelled a lot more than that, I rarely spent more than 130-140 on gas (not counting long trips).
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John Cardinal wrote: Really? In the city? If you factor in parking costs, insurance etc? Well, if you own a car, you'd have insurance to pay anyway.
depending on your insurer you may be able to get a discount for traveling less than N miles/year. While generally targeted towards people with a lightly used secondary vehicle, ie 4x4 for driving in the snow and normal car for everything else, if you rarely use your primary vehicle you can qualify for it there as well.
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Diesel $2.45 North of Tampa, $2.65 in West Palm Beach.
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Diesel is up over $3 in the NW. Bring on the Hybrids:cool:
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"I'm going to write someone" never makes sense. What are you going to write them on?
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I'm so gangsta I eat cereal without the milkIt makes sense because we all know what she meant. The main argument is that you can say "I'm going to write someone a letter." In this example, the indirect object is dropped and implied. (I recall one linguist arguing that "a letter" can be dropped if a person doesn't know what medium they are going to use. A secondary argument is that prescriptivists want "to write" to maintain the narrow definition of simply creating a message in physical form. However descriptivists observe that for the verb now has an additional meaning, which is the entire process of creating and posting/delivering a message. Several other verbs have done this; "to sell", "to offer", "to get" "to show" A tertiary argument is that this is a dialectal thing. Some grammarians believe this is one of the differences between British and American English.
Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke
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Had to take a spare PC to a sattelite center this morning in South Carolina. As I got closer, the price of gasoline dropped sharply... USD $1.86 / gallon! And this after I had to fill up last night at USD $2.01 / gallon... How are gas prices where you are? Tim
Some 2 days ago I paid $5.17 / gallon - dropped nicely (using Google calculator and current exchange rate). Back in August 2006 it was at $6.12 / gallon, but then the USD was stronger - using the August exchange rate, I get to $5.48 / gallon. Rado PS: I'm located in Slovakia ;)
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It makes sense because we all know what she meant. The main argument is that you can say "I'm going to write someone a letter." In this example, the indirect object is dropped and implied. (I recall one linguist arguing that "a letter" can be dropped if a person doesn't know what medium they are going to use. A secondary argument is that prescriptivists want "to write" to maintain the narrow definition of simply creating a message in physical form. However descriptivists observe that for the verb now has an additional meaning, which is the entire process of creating and posting/delivering a message. Several other verbs have done this; "to sell", "to offer", "to get" "to show" A tertiary argument is that this is a dialectal thing. Some grammarians believe this is one of the differences between British and American English.
Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke
a quaternary argument is that one of the two drivers of linguistic change is sloth among the users and since noone's managed to find a way to stop the effect despite millennia of bemoaning it is to accept that it's going to happen and blow raspberries at those shrieking and wailing over the fact. ;P;P;P;P PS for the curious the other driver is metaphoric used of words to make a statement more 'intense'.
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Which specific tax were you asking about? :rolleyes: We pay a road tax based on the size of our car engines, which goes towards maintaining roads (the majority comes out of council budgets though). Road tax is a one-off annual charge, not linked to fuel consumption. The tax we pay on the fuel itself is basically all a sales-based tax. On 98p per litre unleaded petrol/gas: 14.6p is VAT 47.1p is fuel tax For 1 US gallon, in US dollars, that equates to: $1.09 is VAT $3.48 is fuel tax HMRC Fuel Tax page[^] On an interesting note, that is equivalent to 280% income tax, and we are charged VAT on the fuel tax itself -- the only time in the UK when you will pay a tax on a tax. :doh: As a business user I get all my fuel VAT back again though, even on personal travel, so it works out as 83p a litre, or about 90p once you factor in the car scale charge <-- yet more tax. -- modified at 12:53 Thursday 11th January, 2007
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I'm so gangsta I eat cereal without the milkYikes! No wonder gas is so expensive over there! You're paying more for the taxes than you are for the gax itself! You're paying about $2.50 for the gas, as we're paying about $1.50 right now. I know people bitch about the price of gas and think we're paying so much less for it in other countries, but it's not the gas that's screwing them, it's the taxes! :confused:
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Yeah, but don't forget the US gallon is smaller than the British gallon :)
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I made the correct conversion to get to that figure (1 litre = 0.264172051 US gallons). In fact I don't recall a time when I have ever used a British gallon, everything here has been in litres since I was born.
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Yikes! No wonder gas is so expensive over there! You're paying more for the taxes than you are for the gax itself! You're paying about $2.50 for the gas, as we're paying about $1.50 right now. I know people bitch about the price of gas and think we're paying so much less for it in other countries, but it's not the gas that's screwing them, it's the taxes! :confused:
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Dave Kreskowiak wrote:
it's not the gas that's screwing them, it's the taxes
It is and it's isn't at the same time. The fuel tax is a fixed amount regardless of the actual fuel cost, so when oil prices go up then the rise in cost at the pumps is purely oil cost and not tax. We are all used to paying high tax on fuel (it's the governments way of taxing us on the miles we travel, although they are trying to bring in a new system as well which would make it a tax on a tax on a tax) so when we bitch about the cost it is generally because it has risen above the typical price. 89 pence a litre would be considered very cheap for petrol, in fact I can't remember a time when it has been less than around 83 pence a litre since I've been buying it.
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It makes sense because we all know what she meant. The main argument is that you can say "I'm going to write someone a letter." In this example, the indirect object is dropped and implied. (I recall one linguist arguing that "a letter" can be dropped if a person doesn't know what medium they are going to use. A secondary argument is that prescriptivists want "to write" to maintain the narrow definition of simply creating a message in physical form. However descriptivists observe that for the verb now has an additional meaning, which is the entire process of creating and posting/delivering a message. Several other verbs have done this; "to sell", "to offer", "to get" "to show" A tertiary argument is that this is a dialectal thing. Some grammarians believe this is one of the differences between British and American English.
Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke
Joe Woodbury wrote:
I recall one linguist arguing that "a letter" can be dropped if a person doesn't know what medium they are going to use
Yes of course, but by removing the medium you will need to adjust the sentence and stick a 'to' in there. You can either write 'to someone', or 'write them something'. The same is true for 'to sell', 'to offer', etc. I can't 'sell Joe', legally, unless I put that 'something' in there that I am either seliing to him or him to.
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