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  • R Raj Lal

    Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

    hike of 5,000 is on the annual salary

    ???? the question says with a guaranteed $5,000 raise every six months. why will it be on the annual salary ? as per your explaination , it needs to be $5,000 raise every 12 months, not 6 months then only you can count 2500 for 6 months -- modified at 19:52 Tuesday 16th January, 2007 -- modified at 19:53 Tuesday 16th January, 2007

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    Quartz... wrote:

    the question says with a guaranteed $5,000 raise every six months. why will it be on the annual salary ?

    All figures are mentioned in annual wage terms. The 180K is the annual salary. So a 5K hike means, it's a hike on the annual salary.

    Quartz... wrote:

    as per your explaination , it needs to be $5,000 raise every 12 months, not 6 months then only you can count 2500 for 6 months

    No. The hike is given every 6 months, but the hike is applied on the annual salary. For example if my salary is 24K annually, I get 2K per month. Say at the end of the 3rd month my pay is revised to 30K annually. That's a hike of 6K. Now my monthly pay becomes 2.5K. That's how salaries are defined. So as I said, your solution is not right - and to make it right, you'd have to change your original question.

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      Nish beat me to it. I guess the puzzle was ambiguous: I've never heard of a raise working like that. (What's it a raise on if not the annual salary?!) No matter. Kept us (semi-)entertained for a bit. Thanks Quartz. (:beer: and then bed I think.)

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      Wags wrote:

      Nish beat me to it. I guess the puzzle was ambiguous: I've never heard of a raise working like that. (What's it a raise on if not the annual salary?!) No matter. Kept us (semi-)entertained for a bit. Thanks Quartz.

      I think he worded the question wrong.

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      • R Raj Lal

        The question clearly states that $5000 increment every 6 months , how can you assume its not 5000, but 2500 for 6 months This is not at all a puzzle of "trick of words in the question"

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        Quartz... wrote:

        The question clearly states that $5000 increment every 6 months , how can you assume its not 5000, but 2500 for 6 months

        $5000 increment every six months means that his annual salary is incremented by $5000. It does not mean his 6-monthly salary is incremented by $5000. The default salary is annual. So all salary hikes are also annual :-)

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        • R Raj Lal

          Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

          the original puzzle has to be reworded

          This is definetly not a "trick of words" puzzle, the question clearly stated that the increment is 5000, every 6 months

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          Quartz... wrote:

          This is definetly not a "trick of words" puzzle, the question clearly stated that the increment is 5000, every 6 months

          Yes, and increments are always applied on the annual salary. Every six months, his annual pay is incremented by 5000.

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          • W Wags

            I'm sure it's meant to be a serious puzzle but it still doesn't make sense to me. Faulty reasoning? :confused: http://www.cut-the-knot.org/arithmetic/Kline-Loyd.shtml[^] Perhaps Quartz could explain in his own words.:suss:

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            Ahhh! Thanks for the link, that explains it.

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            • N Nish Nishant

              Quartz... wrote:

              the question says with a guaranteed $5,000 raise every six months. why will it be on the annual salary ?

              All figures are mentioned in annual wage terms. The 180K is the annual salary. So a 5K hike means, it's a hike on the annual salary.

              Quartz... wrote:

              as per your explaination , it needs to be $5,000 raise every 12 months, not 6 months then only you can count 2500 for 6 months

              No. The hike is given every 6 months, but the hike is applied on the annual salary. For example if my salary is 24K annually, I get 2K per month. Say at the end of the 3rd month my pay is revised to 30K annually. That's a hike of 6K. Now my monthly pay becomes 2.5K. That's how salaries are defined. So as I said, your solution is not right - and to make it right, you'd have to change your original question.

              Regards, Nish


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              I am quite surprised by your argument. even when the question clearly says the its 5000 raise every 6 months i mean what does "EVERY 6 MONTHS" implies here you might want to look at this here[^]

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                Quartz... wrote:

                The question clearly states that $5000 increment every 6 months , how can you assume its not 5000, but 2500 for 6 months

                $5000 increment every six months means that his annual salary is incremented by $5000. It does not mean his 6-monthly salary is incremented by $5000. The default salary is annual. So all salary hikes are also annual :-)

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                How is that possible, $5000 increment every six months when you are "ACTUALLY" adding only 2500 every 6 months :)

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                • W Wags

                  Nish beat me to it. I guess the puzzle was ambiguous: I've never heard of a raise working like that. (What's it a raise on if not the annual salary?!) No matter. Kept us (semi-)entertained for a bit. Thanks Quartz. (:beer: and then bed I think.)

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                  Wags wrote:

                  I guess the puzzle was ambiguous

                  This is a classic puzzle "In Mathematical Puzzles of Sam Loyd (M. Gardner, Dover, 1959) " before anyone of us were even born Clickety[^]

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                  • R Raj Lal

                    How is that possible, $5000 increment every six months when you are "ACTUALLY" adding only 2500 every 6 months :)

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                    Quartz... wrote:

                    $5000 increment every six months

                    I think you and I can argue on this forever, and still disagree. To me, the above statement means that every 6 months, my salary will be hiked by $5000. And my salary is in annual terms (that's standard the world over).

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                    • R Raj Lal

                      I am quite surprised by your argument. even when the question clearly says the its 5000 raise every 6 months i mean what does "EVERY 6 MONTHS" implies here you might want to look at this here[^]

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                      Quartz... wrote:

                      i mean what does "EVERY 6 MONTHS" implies here

                      It implies that he gets a hike every 6 months. It does not imply that the hike amount is applied over his next 6 months of pay.

                      Quartz... wrote:

                      you might want to look at this here[^]

                      I read that too. That's worded wrong too - similar to how you worded it. It won't stand a legal scrutiny. Anyway I think we've argued enough on this. I still stand by my original point. :)

                      Regards, Nish


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                        Quartz... wrote:

                        i mean what does "EVERY 6 MONTHS" implies here

                        It implies that he gets a hike every 6 months. It does not imply that the hike amount is applied over his next 6 months of pay.

                        Quartz... wrote:

                        you might want to look at this here[^]

                        I read that too. That's worded wrong too - similar to how you worded it. It won't stand a legal scrutiny. Anyway I think we've argued enough on this. I still stand by my original point. :)

                        Regards, Nish


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                        ok so according to you if a company say they will pay you a hike of $100 every month You will expect to get actually $ (100/12) every month according to your logic.

                        Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                        It won't stand a legal scrutiny

                        I suggest you ask your hr manager/account manager and confirm this, What it means when the company says RAISE of $5000 every 6 months. You arew actually confusing with %age increment which is in most companies annually so they say 10% increment ANNUALLY (implied that, its on annual salary because IT specifically says ANNUALLY) Even if the increment is 10% semi-annually or 6 monthly, that means it applies to semi annual income or 6 months income.

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