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I've played Rainbow Six and Gears of War. They are like every other game I can play on a PC. I admit, they are fun and I love a good hour of Half Life 2 every few weeks. But I am not going to shell out a couple hundred dollars for an Xbox or Playstation when I can get the same or similar games on my PC. There is no point for me. A Wii is different. It is a fun entertainment device I can play for a few minutes a day, blow off some steam and not take too seriously. Nintendo are after a different market to Microsoft and Sony. Nintendo are after families and the majority of the world who really, really don't want to spend 6 hours blowing up aliens in make believe settings. Your mom could pick up the Wii and have fun. The same probably cannot be said of the Xbox. Look, the Xbox works for you and that is cool, I don't mind. But for a guy like me who already has a PC, it makes little sense. A Wii is fun, frivolous and does what my PC doesn't. So yeah, I'll take tennis over Gears of War anyday too :)
ToddHileHoffer wrote:
You probably still write Classic ASP with VB6.
LMAO And you probably write with the D language on your own OS that nobody else can use or distribute too ;)
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Shog9 wrote:
I don't see it happening, at least not until it becomes pointless.
Paul Watson wrote:
a fun entertainment device I can play for a few minutes a day, blow off some steam and not take too seriously.
I prefer Virtual Bubblewrap[^].:-D
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That's like getting a Ferrari and using regular gas - the performance will suck but it will still work. When you buy a sports car you use proper fuel. When you buy an Xbox 360 (or PS3) you should use proper equipment. By the way - you can plug your 360 into your PC monitor too and get Hi-Def gaming - just so you know (you need the VGA cable - I have one here that I'm not using so if you want it, let me know)
Regards, Brian Dela :-)
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Oh man, those Nintendo Wiis are fun. Co-worker has one upstairs and I just spent half an hour smashing a ball around a tennis court. Pretty natural and you even get a rumble on impact with the ball. Beats the pants off the cool-to-look-at-but-oh-so-boring Xbox 360 games. OK, lets say it is a totally different experience and not really a competitor to the Xbox 360. But for a family, for kids, for non-technical people and for people who don't have hours to spend deep inside a game, the Wii is fun and probably a better choice. For someone like me, the Wii is a good choice. -- modified at 13:41 Wednesday 17th January, 2007
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Shog9 wrote:
I don't see it happening, at least not until it becomes pointless.
But what an =UNFORTUNATE= name... Now jillions of boys have to say "Sorry - I'm not gonna come out and play. I'm gonna stay in and play with my wii"... Or worse yet - wii wii X|
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That's assuming you have a 360, I have a transparent case older xbox, don't know the model but it's over a year old.
Ah - well then you're comparing a 6 year old console with a brand new one!
Regards, Brian Dela :-)
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Ah - well then you're comparing a 6 year old console with a brand new one!
Regards, Brian Dela :-)
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Oh man, those Nintendo Wiis are fun. Co-worker has one upstairs and I just spent half an hour smashing a ball around a tennis court. Pretty natural and you even get a rumble on impact with the ball. Beats the pants off the cool-to-look-at-but-oh-so-boring Xbox 360 games. OK, lets say it is a totally different experience and not really a competitor to the Xbox 360. But for a family, for kids, for non-technical people and for people who don't have hours to spend deep inside a game, the Wii is fun and probably a better choice. For someone like me, the Wii is a good choice. -- modified at 13:41 Wednesday 17th January, 2007
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Shog9 wrote:
I don't see it happening, at least not until it becomes pointless.
Paul Watson wrote:
Beats the pants off the cool-to-look-at-but-oh-so-boring Xbox 360 games.
I totally agree with that. I am waiting our Wii and none of stores nearby have them in stock. Nintendo installed demo Wii stations in all the shopping malls in this area. People are crazy playing the games there. I played Baseball, Tennis, Bowling games. Man, it brought my childhood. I don't care it's mall or home, I was so involved the game. Wii rocks!! Good thing we already got bunch of Gamecube games.
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You are on crack. Not to start a war but c'mon. I'll take my Rainbox Six Las Vegas and Gears of War over the Wii Tennis anyday. Sure it is fun for half an hour, but once the novelty of the controller wears off you are stuck playing on a last generation machine. The Wii = Xbox 180 with a new controller. If you own a nice big hdtv, or projector and a good sound system the xbox 360 kicks ass. And don't tell me graphics don't matter. How immesered can you feel when you are looking at the blocks that are GameCube (I mean Wii) graphics. You probably still write Classic ASP with VB6.
Have you played Lost Planet yet? The controls suck compared to Gears of War in my opinion.
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I've played Rainbow Six and Gears of War. They are like every other game I can play on a PC. I admit, they are fun and I love a good hour of Half Life 2 every few weeks. But I am not going to shell out a couple hundred dollars for an Xbox or Playstation when I can get the same or similar games on my PC. There is no point for me. A Wii is different. It is a fun entertainment device I can play for a few minutes a day, blow off some steam and not take too seriously. Nintendo are after a different market to Microsoft and Sony. Nintendo are after families and the majority of the world who really, really don't want to spend 6 hours blowing up aliens in make believe settings. Your mom could pick up the Wii and have fun. The same probably cannot be said of the Xbox. Look, the Xbox works for you and that is cool, I don't mind. But for a guy like me who already has a PC, it makes little sense. A Wii is fun, frivolous and does what my PC doesn't. So yeah, I'll take tennis over Gears of War anyday too :)
ToddHileHoffer wrote:
You probably still write Classic ASP with VB6.
LMAO And you probably write with the D language on your own OS that nobody else can use or distribute too ;)
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Shog9 wrote:
I don't see it happening, at least not until it becomes pointless.
Let's see... Gears of War on High Def 60" with the XBox 360, or I lug my pc into the living room and try to use that on the tv, with horrible resolution til the game boots, but then my machine is now in the living room.. nah, I'll take the XBox 360. Although with the pc using the XBox 360 remote controller then its more possible, but I'll still take the 360.
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Let's see... Gears of War on High Def 60" with the XBox 360, or I lug my pc into the living room and try to use that on the tv, with horrible resolution til the game boots, but then my machine is now in the living room.. nah, I'll take the XBox 360. Although with the pc using the XBox 360 remote controller then its more possible, but I'll still take the 360.
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Chris S Kaiser wrote:
Although with the pc using the XBox 360 remote controller then its more possible, but I'll still take the 360.
Actually the controllers are what I generally hate about consoles. They suck compared to a keyboard an mouse for anything except the most basic of games. Nintendo though have made some innovative, kickass controllers in the Wii.
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Shog9 wrote:
I don't see it happening, at least not until it becomes pointless.
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Yeah, Nintendo rocks, they always have. I will be buying one when I can get one cheap. I always wait, I hate spending a fortune on games.
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Yeah, I'll be waiting for some better deals (including two controllers so Fiona can play along) before getting a Wii. It's not like the graphics can go out of date like on an Xbox or Playstation.
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Shog9 wrote:
I don't see it happening, at least not until it becomes pointless.
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Chris S Kaiser wrote:
Although with the pc using the XBox 360 remote controller then its more possible, but I'll still take the 360.
Actually the controllers are what I generally hate about consoles. They suck compared to a keyboard an mouse for anything except the most basic of games. Nintendo though have made some innovative, kickass controllers in the Wii.
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Shog9 wrote:
I don't see it happening, at least not until it becomes pointless.
Yeah, I was referring to lounging on the couch whilst blasting Locusts. Not as easy with a keyboard and mouse. But I agree regarding the Wii controller. Truly innovative.
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Wii created a new game paradigm. I know some hard-core gamers and some non-gamers who just have so much fun with the Wii and playing fun games like tennis or bowling. for most people, that's enough for not going to a ps3 or an xbox360 which are only the same consoles but only better in graphics and sounds.
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Maximilien wrote:
for most people, that's enough for not going to a ps3 or an xbox360 which are only the same consoles but only better in graphics and sounds.
Dunno about that. There's more than just added graphics. Added processor means more AI, and having a 12 gig hard drive means I'll never have to move saved games between memory cards again. Its all about adding MORE. Especially when we're talking about open worlds for cruising through. Open terrain alone is worth the extra power.
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ToddHileHoffer wrote:
But we're talking about video games.
we're talking about "immersion". since people can clearly become immersed in things that have no graphics at all, graphics aren't all that.
ToddHileHoffer wrote:
Remember those text only rpgs on the old 640K IBM machines. Would anyone still play one of the those?
sure. not everybody requires lots of blinking lights. try not assuming everybody else shares your limitations.
ToddHileHoffer wrote:
No. Because graphics matter in gaming.
graphics matter to people who think they matter, but in the end gameplay is far more important. a good game doesn't need the best graphics.
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Yeah, but I don't play a game to read for immersion. Visuals help with that. And its not just blinking lights, but the realism they are hitting now is pretty WOW on an HDTV. And a good game with good graphics beats the pants off of one without. It doesn't have to be a trade off. With the next gen consoles you get added processing power and memory which adds to AI as well as graphics. That allows better gameplay if used.
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Have to agree with Todd - you're on craic*. I've played around on the Wii a bit and I love the damned thing (will be getting one as soon as they are back in stock at Target) but to say it beats the pants off Xbox 360 games - you MUST be on craic* ;P Was up until 3am this morning playing online Star Trek Legacy and chatting with people while playing and coordinating the defense of space stations. Before that spent about 2 hours playing Viva Piñata (ehhh, it's a really macho game guys - honestly) - one of the most addictive games I've ever played. Games like PGR 3, GoW, The Lord of the Rings BFME II, are just so damn cool when playing alone but when you start going online - simply amazing. Nothing like being in Redmond and racing my brother back in Waterford with the abuse flying left right and centre as he side swipes me on the last bend of a 20 min race in PGR or playing GoW in cooperative mode with a work mate over Xbox Live. You can't get that on a PC (the experience is just not the same - it's just not as integrated) and you can't get it on the Wii. I wasn't a console fan until I got the 360 before Christmas - I was always in the "I can do it on the PC too and it's just as good" boat, but since I've had the 360 I'm a big console fan and I KNOW that it's just not the same on a PC. I have my nice and powerful PC, I have my 360, and I'll be getting my Wii. 360 will be king of those three though - primarily because of Xbox Live. Oh, and I have a nice 32" HDTV which makes the 360 look AMAZING. Seriously though - I personally prefer the online aspect of the 360 over the Wii. Just a personal preference and I completely understand why others are different. *btw, I know you're not on craic :-) Just too much Guinness.
Regards, Brian Dela :-)
Brian Delahunty wrote:
Was up until 3am this morning playing online Star Trek Legacy and chatting with people while playing and coordinating the defense of space stations. Before that spent about 2 hours playing Viva Piñata (ehhh, it's a really macho game guys - honestly) - one of the most addictive games I've ever played.
What's your opinion on that game? I'm finding it a bit slow and cumbersome. I mean, fly, target, shoot, wait for turn, wait for turn, hyperspeed, target, shoot, wait for turn... Dunno, maybe I'm missing something.
Just too much Guinness.
Oh say it ain't so... you can't get too much Guiness. :beer:
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Yeah, I'll be waiting for some better deals (including two controllers so Fiona can play along) before getting a Wii. It's not like the graphics can go out of date like on an Xbox or Playstation.
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Shog9 wrote:
I don't see it happening, at least not until it becomes pointless.
Paul Watson wrote:
It's not like the graphics can go out of date like on an Xbox or Playstation.
Pardon me for being dense. But, how do you mean?
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Chris Losinger wrote:
so what? the books are better than any of the movie adaptations - even the recent one. and some books... gasp... don't even get made into movies!
But we're talking about video games. Remember those text only rpgs on the old 640K IBM machines. Would anyone still play one of the those? No. Because graphics matter in gaming. Go read a book or something so you can make a more intelligent argument.
ToddHileHoffer wrote:
Would anyone still play one of the those?
I know plenty of people who do. They play MMO versions of them called MUDs over telnet. They prefer it over graphical MMOs like Everquest or WoW. Graphics are definitely useful. But I enjoy playing GoW or R6:Vegas on my 360 as much as I enjoy playing Rez[^] on my friend's PS2. "Great" graphics aren't necessary for a game to be enjoyable, otherwise nobody would play board games anymore either.
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Well we can't all be cutting edge I guess. :) Actually I was thinking of finding out what cool hacks can be done with it since I'm probably not going to use it for anything else anymore.
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ToddHileHoffer wrote:
If you own a nice big hdtv, or projector and a good sound system the xbox 360 kicks ass.
Yeah, that's pretty much what i've been hearing all around. This is probably why i don't play video games anymore... whatever happened to wiring up the old TV (with messed-up color) in the backroom and blowing things up while gorging on chips & soda? :rolleyes:
We have an xbox 360 that we won, but we haven't really used it at all. a console is not the ideal platform for the games I like to play, even if they were available - civilization, black and white, civilization, Myst series, civilization, railroad tycoon. Oops, I think I repeated myself there. And my partner played uesd it to play halo 2, which he had been totally wanting to play for a looong time, but he eventually got fed-up with the controller, which he sucks and using and has next to no experience with, having played games on the PC all his life. Which is a shame, cos now we have an xbox 360 no one wants to use!! Maybe we sell it? ps. xbox360 games are SO expensive too! about 20% more expensive full price than a full price computer game!? That makes no kinda sense. ;)
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Brian Delahunty wrote:
Was up until 3am this morning playing online Star Trek Legacy and chatting with people while playing and coordinating the defense of space stations. Before that spent about 2 hours playing Viva Piñata (ehhh, it's a really macho game guys - honestly) - one of the most addictive games I've ever played.
What's your opinion on that game? I'm finding it a bit slow and cumbersome. I mean, fly, target, shoot, wait for turn, wait for turn, hyperspeed, target, shoot, wait for turn... Dunno, maybe I'm missing something.
Just too much Guinness.
Oh say it ain't so... you can't get too much Guiness. :beer:
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Chris S Kaiser wrote:
What's your opinion on that game? I'm finding it a bit slow and cumbersome. I mean, fly, target, shoot, wait for turn, wait for turn, hyperspeed, target, shoot, wait for turn... Dunno, maybe I'm missing something.
I felt like that for a while. It took me a while to get used to the control system - since then it's been good fun. I played through on Captain difficulty to the TNG era before I went online to play - I've had some great matches since then - especialy using the defiant (cloak is so cool) and hiding in nebulas to surprise people.
Chris S Kaiser wrote:
I mean, fly, target, shoot, wait for turn, wait for turn, hyperspeed, target, shoot, wait for turn...
Don't wait - switch ship quickly and attack from a different angle. Or put power to engines and drop speed to 1/4 so you can turn faster. It did take me a while to actually start enjoying this game and I'm guessing it's not for everybody. Plus there are a good few bugs around the entire online experience. What's your gamertag?
Regards, Brian Dela :-)