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Vista not such a big success here.

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  • J Jim Crafton

    I disagree as well. My memory of Win2K is that it was pretty rapidly picked up. I know I had switched to using it exclusively by Mar/Apr of 2000. I don't see myself using Vista exclusively for a while.

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    Dan Neely
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    2k was the last version to add wow level capabilities. As John said it merged NT stability with DX support needed to game. XP and Vista have added large numbers of incremental enhancements, but once you reach the level of runs almost all software and doesn't crash regularly it's hard to make any Earth shattering improvements. UAC has the potential to become one in a few years assuming it can't be easily malwared around, but that's assuming enough people complain to their app devs to get the software updated to work with it instead of just turning it off as overly annoying.

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    • R Rocky Moore

      Just wait, Vista will prove itself as did 2000, XP and Windows 2003 server. Vista is a golden and will only improve. With in three years most people will be running Vista and XP will be that old OS no one wants any more.

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      KaRl
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      5 years to get something which 'will only improve'? Waoh - Sounds like a dilbertian project.

      Rocky Moore wrote:

      With in three years most people will be running Vista and XP will be that old OS no one wants any more.

      Wanna bet? :-D


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      • B Bradml

        I was talking to my mate at the local Harvey Norman about the vista launch last night. Apparently the sold a whopping 2 copies!


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        ednrgc
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        Vista is possibly the make/break operating system for Microsoft. I actually believe that a lack of interest in Vista will send a message to Microsoft that bloat is not what the consumer wants. Most people want an operating system that is built from the ground up and does not need to be patched every 2 days. Build it correctly from the get-go, without all the user restrictions Vista applies. Check out Rick Strahl's Blog Some great points pro & con.

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        • R Rocky Moore

          Just wait, Vista will prove itself as did 2000, XP and Windows 2003 server. Vista is a golden and will only improve. With in three years most people will be running Vista and XP will be that old OS no one wants any more.

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          mobilemobile
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          Well, people will definitely stop thinking about XP when Microsoft stops doing service packs and then drops support entirely for it.

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            Well, people will definitely stop thinking about XP when Microsoft stops doing service packs and then drops support entirely for it.

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            Dan Neely
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            Honestly that won't put a dent in the diehards. They'll still be using 2k until they can no longer get drivers for it, and will be dragged kicking and screaming into the future protesting that they can't easilt figure their fuel economy in rods per hogshead anymore.

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            • S Steve Hansen

              I disagree. You find it odd that an OS from 2007 uses more memory then one from 2000? Have you compared the prices for memory from 2000 and 2007. I haven't checked for memory but I did for HDD's, I checked the recommended requirements for XP and Vista. Vista is alot cheaper in GiB/$, GiB/€, GiB/£ than XP.

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              Monin D
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              Did anyone checked Vista on 1.6-1.7Ghz machine? I think on most of notebooks Vista will work rather slow. Because, as I think, normal speed for notebook is about 1.6-1.7Ghz ... should I forget about buying Vista? :)

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              • B Bradml

                I disagree. It is a power hungry monstrosity of an OS. I will not be using it until the last moment possible.


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                Rocky Moore
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                Well, that is fine, you can join that small group, but most of the mass market will be using it unless some other company does something drastic in thier OS's and that is just a fact of life. Most people now are using XP, it is not that they all planned to, it is that they bought new machines with it preinstalled. It is typically a 3-5 year upgrade cycle, so the numbers are pretty easy.

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                  Did anyone checked Vista on 1.6-1.7Ghz machine? I think on most of notebooks Vista will work rather slow. Because, as I think, normal speed for notebook is about 1.6-1.7Ghz ... should I forget about buying Vista? :)

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                  Rocky Moore
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                  Actually, my wife is using Vista ultimate on a 1.7ghz machine with only 512 MB RAM and while not the most speedy machine on the block, it is quite usable.

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                  • M Monin D

                    Did anyone checked Vista on 1.6-1.7Ghz machine? I think on most of notebooks Vista will work rather slow. Because, as I think, normal speed for notebook is about 1.6-1.7Ghz ... should I forget about buying Vista? :)

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                    Dan Neely
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                    Remember a 1.6gig pentium M/Core solo/Ahtlon64 is roughly as fast as a 2.5gig pentium 4.

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                    • B Bradml

                      Give me a break, new keyboard


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                      Chris S Kaiser
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                      You get a break for each one given. Hmmm... I imagine that might be quite a few. :laugh:

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                      • E ednrgc

                        Vista is possibly the make/break operating system for Microsoft. I actually believe that a lack of interest in Vista will send a message to Microsoft that bloat is not what the consumer wants. Most people want an operating system that is built from the ground up and does not need to be patched every 2 days. Build it correctly from the get-go, without all the user restrictions Vista applies. Check out Rick Strahl's Blog Some great points pro & con.

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                        syho516
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                        Possibly the problem is one of cost. How many people who don't know about all the new features and what they do will want to go out and buy an OS that costs more than £100, just for upgrade versions? I don't think many will. I wont either, even though I use RC1 and like it. I just can't justify the cost. Most people won't see any big reasons to upgrade. For most home users, XP is just fine. They probably don't care that a new version looks different. After all, thats the most obvious difference between XP and Vista. Oh and Microsoft aren't good at making new releases bug free. I expect there will be several critical updates within the first few weeks. To highlight this, they are talking about SP1 already, and its only just been released! I wouldn't be suprised if Vista has a slow adoption rate. And anyway, the majority of home users will probably buy a new PC with Vista installed, which will bump up sales figures. Installing an OS is only easy when you know what your doing. Most people wont want to.

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