RAR vs ZIP
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Are all the 7-zip compression choices compatible with Winzip?
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I hate the WinRar interface. X| Besides, Rar is not as ubiquitous as Zip.
Cheers, Vikram.
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Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:
I hate the WinRar interface.
I liked it until it started asking me for money all the time... Then I got 7Zip. Now that I'm using linux most of the time, I just use the commandline versions (rar -x... etc) or Ark/File Roller or something.
Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:
Besides, Rar is not as ubiquitous as Zip.
Well, at one time black and white TVs were more ubiquitous than colour TVs. Aren't you glad that didn't stop colour TV?
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Suddenly every second submission I'm seeing is packed full of RAR nastiness. Has someone, somewhere decided that WinRAR is way, way cooler than Winzip and I didn't get the memo? Or is there a university somewhere preaching zip bad, rar good? It's just weird.
cheers, Chris Maunder
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WinZip was very popular, until WinRar appear! Since there I only use WinRar. Of couse some persons froze in time... and it still is installed on corporate windows machines. Not that I tried other like 7zip but the result was always the same, WinRar can compress very good at great performance (Just see the memory signature to realize what is the best compress tool for Windows users...)
PJ
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Suddenly every second submission I'm seeing is packed full of RAR nastiness. Has someone, somewhere decided that WinRAR is way, way cooler than Winzip and I didn't get the memo? Or is there a university somewhere preaching zip bad, rar good? It's just weird.
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
I must come out of the closet for the fact that I, too, am a WinRAR fan. Unlike some others here, I far prefer the interface over WinZip (which never fails to make me feel like I should be on the floor with Duplo-blocks), and the integrated XP-zip? That just doesn't do it for me. Aside from that another factor is compatibility, I seem to hang out with RAR-types (someone pointed out that in "Europe" RAR was more popular, which I'd never thought about), so I work with that format most anyway. Now excuse me, I need to grow my hair further and smoke some weed.
Paul
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Suddenly every second submission I'm seeing is packed full of RAR nastiness. Has someone, somewhere decided that WinRAR is way, way cooler than Winzip and I didn't get the memo? Or is there a university somewhere preaching zip bad, rar good? It's just weird.
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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In all my recent XP installs, I've stopped installing WinZip, since the builtin ZIP-support of XP is enough as I see it. Oh, and I hate RAR.
How many times have you hit extract twice? its just rubbish
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I've always found WinRAR to give better compression than WinZip 9 (although I haven't tried the new compression in WZ9 for compatibility reasons). RAR is popular in Europe, I'd actually never heard of it until I started exchanging files with my friend in Denmark.
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Michael Dunn wrote:
I've always found WinRAR to give better compression than WinZip 9
You said it... I had a release to the offshore team members and I compresses the source files and binaries. It was nearly 52 MB or something when I used zip but in RAR which compressed the files 3 - 4MB lesser in size. Actually the size of the file really very costly while transfer data through FTP or some other slow medium.
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Suddenly every second submission I'm seeing is packed full of RAR nastiness. Has someone, somewhere decided that WinRAR is way, way cooler than Winzip and I didn't get the memo? Or is there a university somewhere preaching zip bad, rar good? It's just weird.
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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How many times have you hit extract twice? its just rubbish
adudley256 wrote:
How many times have you hit extract twice?
Not once. Never.
adudley256 wrote:
its just rubbish
Nope, it's good enough[^]
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Suddenly every second submission I'm seeing is packed full of RAR nastiness. Has someone, somewhere decided that WinRAR is way, way cooler than Winzip and I didn't get the memo? Or is there a university somewhere preaching zip bad, rar good? It's just weird.
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
I'm not too sure about the newer Winzip versions, but the one I tested (not sure what version that was either as I have been using WinRar) could not compress files over 4 GB or something like that. Also when compressing database backups WinRar archives ended up to be about 10 - 50 % of Winzip archive sizes, so that sold WinRar to me (most of our backups are over 4Gb as well...) Not sure if WinZip has caught up, but I'm so happy with WinRar, I'm not moving. (Also WinRar actually put me in contact with their developers about features I needed, could get any support from WinZip...)
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Suddenly every second submission I'm seeing is packed full of RAR nastiness. Has someone, somewhere decided that WinRAR is way, way cooler than Winzip and I didn't get the memo? Or is there a university somewhere preaching zip bad, rar good? It's just weird.
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
RAR has better compression than ZIP and better spanning support, so it only makes sense that it's used more. However it seems to be a bit slower on the extraction side. I know nothing of 7Z, but if its compression is better then I'm all for it. Another note is that WinZip can't extract some RAR archives, not even in v11.
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Rar has always been way way cooler than zip. Better compression, solid archives, better spanning, zip just isn't in the same league. I never ever understood why zip files beat out both Rar and Arj archives. Winzip was the massive nail in the coffin for me. Horrid user interface, block whenever you click on a window to move it. Blechy! Rar Rar, Hes our man! If he can't do it, No one ... will. - Phil
Completely agreed. We developers internally only use WinRAR, since it provides a way better compression at the same speed as WinZip. Only if we send stuff out, we let WinRAR create zip-files, since the average XP-user usually doesn't have clue what to do with a rar. Greetz Torsten
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Suddenly every second submission I'm seeing is packed full of RAR nastiness. Has someone, somewhere decided that WinRAR is way, way cooler than Winzip and I didn't get the memo? Or is there a university somewhere preaching zip bad, rar good? It's just weird.
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
The answer is clearly http://www.7-zip.org/ Better compression than both WinRar or WinZip, GPL, nice integration into explorer shell, no popups, good GUI, and Microsoft exchange server is too dumb to block .7z attachments. :cool:
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Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:
I hate the WinRar interface.
I liked it until it started asking me for money all the time... Then I got 7Zip. Now that I'm using linux most of the time, I just use the commandline versions (rar -x... etc) or Ark/File Roller or something.
Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:
Besides, Rar is not as ubiquitous as Zip.
Well, at one time black and white TVs were more ubiquitous than colour TVs. Aren't you glad that didn't stop colour TV?
destynova wrote:
Well, at one time black and white TVs were more ubiquitous than colour TVs. Aren't you glad that didn't stop colour TV?
That is ridiculous. Having a color TV when most of your neighbors have B&W TVs doesn't mean you can't watch their TV once in a while or the other way round. On the other hand, if somebody sends a RAR file, the receiver *has* to have WinRAR#; which is not the case with Zip files. # Or a compatible program, of course. On a lighter note, I don't watch TV. :-D
Cheers, Vikram.
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Suddenly every second submission I'm seeing is packed full of RAR nastiness. Has someone, somewhere decided that WinRAR is way, way cooler than Winzip and I didn't get the memo? Or is there a university somewhere preaching zip bad, rar good? It's just weird.
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
Hi chris Just for interest sake. If my memory serves me correct, RAR has better compression than ZIP. That aside, I dont use RAR or ZIP. I use WinAce (ACE compression). The app can handle almost anything (RAR, ZIP, PKZip, etc) and i find the interface a lot friendlier and attractive. (although ACE compression isnt as good as RAR). If you haven't tried it, give it a shot...i guarantee you'll be hooked. I am at least
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How many times have you hit extract twice? its just rubbish
I have to agree with the other "never" response. I have unziped thousands of files using the built in zip and never once had to do it a second time. It is about as idiot proof as it gets. Granted there are features missing if you want to pack something up for distribution but that is not what it was meant for.
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I use a free program called IZarc. It does everything, for free. "If you break a crumb in half, you have two crumbs." - George Carlin
I agree. I use IZArc and am completely satisfied with it's operation and interface.
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The answer is clearly http://www.7-zip.org/ Better compression than both WinRar or WinZip, GPL, nice integration into explorer shell, no popups, good GUI, and Microsoft exchange server is too dumb to block .7z attachments. :cool:
Can anyone give a comparison of the advantages between IZArc and 7-Zip?
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Many software supports RAR and ZIP. UltimateZip supports both Zip and Rar. I have a brief writeup over here on UltimateZip: http://lavanyadeepak.blogspot.com/2007/01/ultimatezip-ultimate-desktop-utility.html[^]
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Winrar support both zip and rar, as well as many other archive type. The shell extension is great and really easy to use. I stopped using zip files when I was unable to unzip after a backup on a cd on which I verified the data written. It's just not rar. And for the one who said that winrar ask for money, they don't use winzip because it do it too!
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