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  • C Colin Angus Mackay

    From a poll on the BBC news website:

    Are you concerned about bird flu?
    Yes
    25.63%
    No
    68.74%
    Don't know
    5.62%
    3823 Votes Cast
    Results are indicative and may not reflect public opinion

    5.62% (215) people taking part in the poll "don't know" if they are concerned about bird flu! Do these people not even know thier own minds! What is this world coming to?


    Upcoming events: * Glasgow Geek Dinner (5th March) * Glasgow: Tell us what you want to see in 2007 My: Website | Blog | Photos

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    I don't care, I'm not a bird :rolleyes:

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      Actually yes, IF it hits the United States. There have not been reported cases of the bird flu in pet birds, but it could happen. I eat only free-range chicken which conditions are much better than in the big poultry farms that seem to get hit the most often so the chance of getting bird flu via food source for me is low.

      _________________________________________________________________ Hey! I don't parallel park big brown Econoline vans on the left side of the road!

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      don't worry cause scientist showed that u wont be affected unless you touched the bird when it is alive. meaning if you eat the bird after cooking it there wont be any danger to you life

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        Actually yes, IF it hits the United States. There have not been reported cases of the bird flu in pet birds, but it could happen. I eat only free-range chicken which conditions are much better than in the big poultry farms that seem to get hit the most often so the chance of getting bird flu via food source for me is low.

        _________________________________________________________________ Hey! I don't parallel park big brown Econoline vans on the left side of the road!

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        ensger
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        Normaly I would agree. But in relationship with birh flu it's the wrong decission. An infection with birth flu happens after contact with wild birds. With us, when there was the danger of birth flu, it was forbidden to let chickens autside for month.

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          Normaly I would agree. But in relationship with birh flu it's the wrong decission. An infection with birth flu happens after contact with wild birds. With us, when there was the danger of birth flu, it was forbidden to let chickens autside for month.

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          I added a "joke" icon, cause obviously everybody thinks I meant this seriously ;) regards

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          • C Colin Angus Mackay

            From a poll on the BBC news website:

            Are you concerned about bird flu?
            Yes
            25.63%
            No
            68.74%
            Don't know
            5.62%
            3823 Votes Cast
            Results are indicative and may not reflect public opinion

            5.62% (215) people taking part in the poll "don't know" if they are concerned about bird flu! Do these people not even know thier own minds! What is this world coming to?


            Upcoming events: * Glasgow Geek Dinner (5th March) * Glasgow: Tell us what you want to see in 2007 My: Website | Blog | Photos

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            Nish Nishant
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            Colin Angus Mackay wrote:

            5.62% (215) people taking part in the poll "don't know" if they are concerned about bird flu! Do these people not even know thier own minds!

            They probably meant that they are not particularly concerned, but don't know if they should be. If you asked my grandma if she thought Vista was good or if it was bad, her reply would be don't-know. Something like that here I guess.

            Regards, Nish


            Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
            Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. (*Sample chapter available online*)

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              don't worry cause scientist showed that u wont be affected unless you touched the bird when it is alive. meaning if you eat the bird after cooking it there wont be any danger to you life

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              Dan Neely
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              At the moment it doesn't readily cross the species barrier, but that's subject to change in the future. The great flu pandemic of 1918-1919 was probably a bird flu. We still can't cure a virus, and while modern supportive medicine is much better than the situation ~90 years ago it won't do any good against a disease where you goto bed healthy, and die overnight without ever waking up.

              -- Rules of thumb should not be taken for the whole hand.

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                At the moment it doesn't readily cross the species barrier, but that's subject to change in the future. The great flu pandemic of 1918-1919 was probably a bird flu. We still can't cure a virus, and while modern supportive medicine is much better than the situation ~90 years ago it won't do any good against a disease where you goto bed healthy, and die overnight without ever waking up.

                -- Rules of thumb should not be taken for the whole hand.

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                :doh::doh::doh:

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                • C Colin Angus Mackay

                  From a poll on the BBC news website:

                  Are you concerned about bird flu?
                  Yes
                  25.63%
                  No
                  68.74%
                  Don't know
                  5.62%
                  3823 Votes Cast
                  Results are indicative and may not reflect public opinion

                  5.62% (215) people taking part in the poll "don't know" if they are concerned about bird flu! Do these people not even know thier own minds! What is this world coming to?


                  Upcoming events: * Glasgow Geek Dinner (5th March) * Glasgow: Tell us what you want to see in 2007 My: Website | Blog | Photos

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                  Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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                  They need to conduct a blue ribbon panel to decide how they really feel about the issue and see if it will be a deciding issue in the next election. Also, they need to see how their opponent feels about the issue and do some pre opinion dirt digging. Only then can they come out and see, "I have no recollection of the events leading up to and after the bird flu pandemic" and secure their reelection.


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                    Colin Angus Mackay wrote:

                    5.62% (215) people taking part in the poll "don't know" if they are concerned about bird flu! Do these people not even know thier own minds!

                    They probably meant that they are not particularly concerned, but don't know if they should be. If you asked my grandma if she thought Vista was good or if it was bad, her reply would be don't-know. Something like that here I guess.

                    Regards, Nish


                    Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                    Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. (*Sample chapter available online*)

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                    Colin Angus Mackay
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                    I don't think the questions are the same thing: Do you think Vista is good or bad? (1) It's good; (2) It's bad; (3) I don't know if it is good or bad. Are you concerned about bird flu? (1) I am concerned; (2) I am not concerned (3) I don't know if I am concerned. Your question is about what you think of the state of another object. The question I highlighted was about the state of oneself.


                    Upcoming events: * Glasgow Geek Dinner (5th March) * Glasgow: Tell us what you want to see in 2007 My: Website | Blog | Photos

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                    • C Colin Angus Mackay

                      I don't think the questions are the same thing: Do you think Vista is good or bad? (1) It's good; (2) It's bad; (3) I don't know if it is good or bad. Are you concerned about bird flu? (1) I am concerned; (2) I am not concerned (3) I don't know if I am concerned. Your question is about what you think of the state of another object. The question I highlighted was about the state of oneself.


                      Upcoming events: * Glasgow Geek Dinner (5th March) * Glasgow: Tell us what you want to see in 2007 My: Website | Blog | Photos

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                      Nish Nishant
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                      Colin Angus Mackay wrote:

                      (3) I don't know if I am concerned.

                      I believe that a lot of people misinterpreted option (3) as : (3) I don't know if I need to be concerned ...indicating that they do not know enough about bird blue. Note that I am not defending them, I am trying to see how they came to that answer.

                      Regards, Nish


                      Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                      Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. (*Sample chapter available online*)

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                      • C Colin Angus Mackay

                        From a poll on the BBC news website:

                        Are you concerned about bird flu?
                        Yes
                        25.63%
                        No
                        68.74%
                        Don't know
                        5.62%
                        3823 Votes Cast
                        Results are indicative and may not reflect public opinion

                        5.62% (215) people taking part in the poll "don't know" if they are concerned about bird flu! Do these people not even know thier own minds! What is this world coming to?


                        Upcoming events: * Glasgow Geek Dinner (5th March) * Glasgow: Tell us what you want to see in 2007 My: Website | Blog | Photos

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                        ednrgc
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                        No, the fact is that more people die from falling off the toilet bowl than bird flu.

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                        • L leckey 0

                          Actually yes, IF it hits the United States. There have not been reported cases of the bird flu in pet birds, but it could happen. I eat only free-range chicken which conditions are much better than in the big poultry farms that seem to get hit the most often so the chance of getting bird flu via food source for me is low.

                          _________________________________________________________________ Hey! I don't parallel park big brown Econoline vans on the left side of the road!

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                          Paul Watson
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                          You can't get bird flu through eating birds. Even if you eat an infected bird. Cooking kills the flu. Freezing kills the flu. You pretty much have to find an infected, live bird and start sucking on its rear end to get infected. Or do some strange Satanic ritual involving bird blood.

                          regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                          Shog9 wrote:

                          And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...

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                            don't worry cause scientist showed that u wont be affected unless you touched the bird when it is alive. meaning if you eat the bird after cooking it there wont be any danger to you life

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                            Frank Kerrigan
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                            Don't you have to touch it, before you cook it ?

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                            • C Colin Angus Mackay

                              Smart Ass [EDIT] Humour is just lost on some people! [/EDIT] -- modified at 9:48 Monday 5th February, 2007


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                              hairy_hats
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                              Colin Angus Mackay wrote:

                              Humour is just lost on some people!

                              It wasn't me! :-)

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                                Normaly I would agree. But in relationship with birh flu it's the wrong decission. An infection with birth flu happens after contact with wild birds. With us, when there was the danger of birth flu, it was forbidden to let chickens autside for month.

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                                JimmyRopes
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                                ensger wrote:

                                An infection with birth flu happens after contact with wild birds.

                                :confused: Not so! Please do not spread this myth. X| H5N1 (commonly called avian flu or bird flu) infection is possible from exposure to infected birds or infected bird excrement regardless of if the bird is wild, domesticated, living or dead. :omg: Wild birds are considered a vector in the spread of H5N1 but are not the only vector. :doh: The original detection of the H5N1 virus happened in Hong Kong in 1997 and involved chickens raised for market. Since then H5N1 has spread around the world and has infected not only chickens but many other avian species. :sigh: In the US, a few years ago, and now in the UK it has been detected in turkeys. Internationally it has been detected in chickens, turkeys, ducks, both domesticated and wild, as well as a variety migratory birds. :~ To say that "infection with birth flu happens after contact with wild birds" is not true. :rolleyes:

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                                • C Colin Angus Mackay

                                  From a poll on the BBC news website:

                                  Are you concerned about bird flu?
                                  Yes
                                  25.63%
                                  No
                                  68.74%
                                  Don't know
                                  5.62%
                                  3823 Votes Cast
                                  Results are indicative and may not reflect public opinion

                                  5.62% (215) people taking part in the poll "don't know" if they are concerned about bird flu! Do these people not even know thier own minds! What is this world coming to?


                                  Upcoming events: * Glasgow Geek Dinner (5th March) * Glasgow: Tell us what you want to see in 2007 My: Website | Blog | Photos

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                                  Giles
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                                  Or don't care/Want to die.


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                                  • L Lost User

                                    I added a "joke" icon, cause obviously everybody thinks I meant this seriously ;) regards

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                                    ensger
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                                    Sorry, should be an answer to the statemant above:rose:

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                                    • C Colin Angus Mackay

                                      From a poll on the BBC news website:

                                      Are you concerned about bird flu?
                                      Yes
                                      25.63%
                                      No
                                      68.74%
                                      Don't know
                                      5.62%
                                      3823 Votes Cast
                                      Results are indicative and may not reflect public opinion

                                      5.62% (215) people taking part in the poll "don't know" if they are concerned about bird flu! Do these people not even know thier own minds! What is this world coming to?


                                      Upcoming events: * Glasgow Geek Dinner (5th March) * Glasgow: Tell us what you want to see in 2007 My: Website | Blog | Photos

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                                      Marc Clifton
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                                      Colin Angus Mackay wrote:

                                      5.62% (215) people taking part in the poll "don't know" if they are concerned about bird flu! Do these people not even know thier own minds!

                                      I might answer I don't know because all I know about it is what the media feeds me (which is considerably more viral). I do know that I don't know enough about it, and that I won't come to any conclusions based on what I've read so far, which is just media frenzy. It's strange to me how these surveys nowadays seem to have the assumption that whatever the majority feels is the correct answer. When did a survey about what other people think ever reflect on the truth of a matter? What I do I care what other people think? Do I make decisions based on majority opinion? No! Marc

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                                      • P Paul Watson

                                        You can't get bird flu through eating birds. Even if you eat an infected bird. Cooking kills the flu. Freezing kills the flu. You pretty much have to find an infected, live bird and start sucking on its rear end to get infected. Or do some strange Satanic ritual involving bird blood.

                                        regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                                        Shog9 wrote:

                                        And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...

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                                        JimmyRopes
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                                        Paul Watson wrote:

                                        You pretty much have to find an infected, live bird and start sucking on its rear end to get infected. Or do some strange Satanic ritual involving bird blood.

                                        I detect a bit of "Watson Wit" in this statement. It looks like living in Ireland is rubbing off on you. :-D If you are being witty please indicate it so as not to minimize the importance of knowing the transmission vectors of this potentially catastrophic virus. :doh: What you said about cooked birds is true, cooking kills the virus, but that is not to minimize the exposure to the cook in preparing the bird for consumption. :rolleyes:

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                                        • L leckey 0

                                          Actually yes, IF it hits the United States. There have not been reported cases of the bird flu in pet birds, but it could happen. I eat only free-range chicken which conditions are much better than in the big poultry farms that seem to get hit the most often so the chance of getting bird flu via food source for me is low.

                                          _________________________________________________________________ Hey! I don't parallel park big brown Econoline vans on the left side of the road!

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                                          leckey wrote:

                                          Actually yes, IF it hits the United States.

                                          It has already has hit the US. :doh: A few years ago it was detected in turkeys (I believe it was in New York State) and there was a ban on the import of avian products from the US in many nations. :sigh: Fortunately it turned out to be an isolated incident and the quarantine period has expired. :-D This can have very devastating economic consequences, especially on developing economies, besides the obvious health hazard. :~

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