Vista FUD
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Richie308 wrote:
I am so tired of reading negative reviews of Vista by self-proclaimed "experts" who say that Vista is nothing but a new UI slapped onto XP. The ignorance demonstrated by such a view is just too much for me to bear.
They are the same people complaining about XP when XP first came out, telling everyone to avoid replacing windows 98 (and laughing at anyone who actually had ME) until XP SP1 came out. They were the same people telling people to switch to classic view because the "shiny new interface" is too slow and confusing and pretty==bad anyhow. From skeptic, to critic, to media, a lot of the same names appear at the OS releases to bash it. Windows 3.0 was copied from Mac, ME was copied again from Mac, and XP was once again copied from Mac, and thus Vista is yet again copied from Mac. If only people would get a Mac and then demand the software companies to support all the software they are used to running on a Mac all would be fine. :confused: if only what? hmmmm.... I like Aero, not because it is shiny and new, but because, FRACK, it is about time they finally got a 3D accelerated interface!! Well they copied it from the Mac... no, it was also about time Mac finally did it also. Both have been monumentally overdue for this type of upgrade. Both have been discussing how to make the changes for years. No big secret for either company. I've been watching 3D technology demonstrations from accelerated desktop technology to 3D accelerated adobe PDF and Flash tools. It is about time for those too. :) I am a 3D graphics lobbiest, I want 3D accelerations in all visible parts of a computer operation as well as somehow increasing benefits to all career fields. I haven't quite figured out how 3D graphics can help the chili pickers... but I am sleeping on it nibbling at some ideas... ;) -- modified at 12:15 Thursday 8th February, 2007
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Thomas George wrote:
/. is not a good place to get objective Vista reviews.
I'd drop the "Vista" and rephrase that to :
/. is not a good place to get objective reviews.:-DRegards, Nish
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Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. (*Sample chapter available online*)I'd go even further...
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Richie308 wrote:
I am so tired of reading negative reviews of Vista by self-proclaimed "experts" who say that Vista is nothing but a new UI slapped onto XP. The ignorance demonstrated by such a view is just too much for me to bear.
They are the same people complaining about XP when XP first came out, telling everyone to avoid replacing windows 98 (and laughing at anyone who actually had ME) until XP SP1 came out. They were the same people telling people to switch to classic view because the "shiny new interface" is too slow and confusing and pretty==bad anyhow. From skeptic, to critic, to media, a lot of the same names appear at the OS releases to bash it. Windows 3.0 was copied from Mac, ME was copied again from Mac, and XP was once again copied from Mac, and thus Vista is yet again copied from Mac. If only people would get a Mac and then demand the software companies to support all the software they are used to running on a Mac all would be fine. :confused: if only what? hmmmm.... I like Aero, not because it is shiny and new, but because, FRACK, it is about time they finally got a 3D accelerated interface!! Well they copied it from the Mac... no, it was also about time Mac finally did it also. Both have been monumentally overdue for this type of upgrade. Both have been discussing how to make the changes for years. No big secret for either company. I've been watching 3D technology demonstrations from accelerated desktop technology to 3D accelerated adobe PDF and Flash tools. It is about time for those too. :) I am a 3D graphics lobbiest, I want 3D accelerations in all visible parts of a computer operation as well as somehow increasing benefits to all career fields. I haven't quite figured out how 3D graphics can help the chili pickers... but I am sleeping on it nibbling at some ideas... ;) -- modified at 12:15 Thursday 8th February, 2007
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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I am so tired of reading negative reviews of Vista by self-proclaimed "experts" who say that Vista is nothing but a new UI slapped onto XP. The ignorance demonstrated by such a view is just too much for me to bear. :sigh: And this type of nonsense is very frequently perpetrated by people who should know better, like enthusiasts such as gamers. Comparisons to OS X really get my goat when people point out that OS X was there first. Is Microsoft just supposed to close up shop and go away because OS X had some of these features first? When people point out that OS X had some of these features first, I just feel like saying, "Yeah, and what's your point?"
-------------------------------- "All that is necessary for the forces of evil to win in the world is for enough good men to do nothing" -- Edmund Burke
Richie308 wrote:
who say that Vista is nothing but a new UI slapped onto XP.
It's a new UI slapped onto XP with the added annoyance of UAC and apps and drivers that aren't compatible. There now. A positively qualified comment! :laugh: Marc
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I am so tired of reading negative reviews of Vista by self-proclaimed "experts" who say that Vista is nothing but a new UI slapped onto XP. The ignorance demonstrated by such a view is just too much for me to bear. :sigh: And this type of nonsense is very frequently perpetrated by people who should know better, like enthusiasts such as gamers. Comparisons to OS X really get my goat when people point out that OS X was there first. Is Microsoft just supposed to close up shop and go away because OS X had some of these features first? When people point out that OS X had some of these features first, I just feel like saying, "Yeah, and what's your point?"
-------------------------------- "All that is necessary for the forces of evil to win in the world is for enough good men to do nothing" -- Edmund Burke
Richie308 wrote:
who say that Vista is nothing but a new UI slapped onto XP.
Since I like to play with the shiny new toys as much as the next techie, I for one would welcome a comprehensive list of major new features that let me do things I can't currently do on my XP boxes.
Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalStrategyConsulting.com
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Richie308 wrote:
who say that Vista is nothing but a new UI slapped onto XP.
Since I like to play with the shiny new toys as much as the next techie, I for one would welcome a comprehensive list of major new features that let me do things I can't currently do on my XP boxes.
Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalStrategyConsulting.com
Christopher Duncan wrote:
things I can't currently do on my XP boxes.
This argument is getting tired also. What can you do with a modern automobile that you can't do with one from the 50's? The one from the 50's accelerates, stops, and turns. Can a modern car do more than that? No, a modern car does basically what a car from the 50's can do. Does this mean a modern car is not a better alternative than one from the 50's?
-------------------------------- "All that is necessary for the forces of evil to win in the world is for enough good men to do nothing" -- Edmund Burke
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Jeffry J. Brickley wrote:
They are the same people complaining about XP when XP first came out
So true, and they will be the same people in the future saying "Windows 2012 is crap, stick with Vista!".
Martin23 wrote:
Windows 2012
Windows Sphere... all seeing, all encompassing, all ensuring, all supporting, all costing... ;) hey... I use MS, but I am aware they sell hard... ;) :laugh:
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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Windows XP is bad. My drivers are not working, then I cannot print, scanning documents, etc... my video card have not updated drivers, then I'm looking my screen now with 800x600, 16bit. No problems... if the I have not purchased that expensive games what requires a lot of resolution, performance, etc, etc. Ok, then lets throw off the games and start to work! I will install Visual Studio and... and... incompatibilities? Ok, some software vendors maybe not updated something to new Windows XP, but, wait? Visual Studio is from Microsoft! So... maybe I can listen some music! I will turn on my speakers and.. what? What this singer is talking about? "Delete My document files"? Noooooooooooooo........ Ok. I'm tired. I will remove Windows XP and re-install Windows98... :zzz:
Engaged in learning of English grammar ;)
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.(John 3:16) :badger::laugh: That's why I stay on Windows 3.11
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Richie308 wrote:
who say that Vista is nothing but a new UI slapped onto XP.
Since I like to play with the shiny new toys as much as the next techie, I for one would welcome a comprehensive list of major new features that let me do things I can't currently do on my XP boxes.
Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalStrategyConsulting.com
Here you go[^].
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Jeffry J. Brickley wrote:
They are the same people complaining about XP when XP first came out
So true, and they will be the same people in the future saying "Windows 2012 is crap, stick with Vista!".
Martin23 wrote:
"Windows 2012 is crap, stick with Vista!".
Windows 2012 - due for release Feb 2014?
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:laugh: That's why I stay on Windows 3.11
I just don't turn my computer on, it is safer that way. ;)
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:laugh: That's why I stay on Windows 3.11
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Ahh, a voice of sanity. We now return you to your originally scheduled Lounge posts.
-------------------------------- "All that is necessary for the forces of evil to win in the world is for enough good men to do nothing" -- Edmund Burke
Richie308 wrote:
a voice of sanity
let's not stretch it toooo far. ;) I have to have a bit of insanity to work here. :)
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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Christopher Duncan wrote:
things I can't currently do on my XP boxes.
This argument is getting tired also. What can you do with a modern automobile that you can't do with one from the 50's? The one from the 50's accelerates, stops, and turns. Can a modern car do more than that? No, a modern car does basically what a car from the 50's can do. Does this mean a modern car is not a better alternative than one from the 50's?
-------------------------------- "All that is necessary for the forces of evil to win in the world is for enough good men to do nothing" -- Edmund Burke
Richie308 wrote:
This argument is getting tired also.
Unless you're simply looking for someone to fight with, I'm not sure which part of what I said qualifies as an argument. It was a sincere question.
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They could probably bind that into a fair sized book. Not really a concise list of major new features, but in fairness I don't think there are very many of those. Vista appears to be a large collection of cool, but small, enhancements rather than something which brings anything major and new to the party. Like everyone else, I'll eventually buy a Vista box. I think the thing I'm most curious about is how usable the speech recognition is. I've been talking to my computer for years. It would be nice if it could offer the appropriate response. :)
Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalStrategyConsulting.com
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Richie308 wrote:
This argument is getting tired also.
Unless you're simply looking for someone to fight with, I'm not sure which part of what I said qualifies as an argument. It was a sincere question.
Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalStrategyConsulting.com
Many apologies for my misinterpretation. :-O The information of what's new in Vista has been so widely available, at so many different outlets, in so many different forms, and for such a long time now, that I hope you can understand that I thought you were putting forth argument, rather than simply seeking information.
-------------------------------- "All that is necessary for the forces of evil to win in the world is for enough good men to do nothing" -- Edmund Burke
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They could probably bind that into a fair sized book. Not really a concise list of major new features, but in fairness I don't think there are very many of those. Vista appears to be a large collection of cool, but small, enhancements rather than something which brings anything major and new to the party. Like everyone else, I'll eventually buy a Vista box. I think the thing I'm most curious about is how usable the speech recognition is. I've been talking to my computer for years. It would be nice if it could offer the appropriate response. :)
Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalStrategyConsulting.com
Christopher Duncan wrote:
Vista appears to be a large collection of cool, but small, enhancements rather than something which brings anything major and new to the party.
That must be just a sincere request for information, right?
-------------------------------- "All that is necessary for the forces of evil to win in the world is for enough good men to do nothing" -- Edmund Burke
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Many apologies for my misinterpretation. :-O The information of what's new in Vista has been so widely available, at so many different outlets, in so many different forms, and for such a long time now, that I hope you can understand that I thought you were putting forth argument, rather than simply seeking information.
-------------------------------- "All that is necessary for the forces of evil to win in the world is for enough good men to do nothing" -- Edmund Burke
No biggie. :) It's kinda like the Wiki that Ryan pointed me to. There's a ton of incremental improvements, without a doubt. However, to install Vista I really need to buy a new box as I have to count on my other machines to be up and can't afford to experiment with them. So, I was looking for that new Killer App feature. The speech recognition seems pretty cool. I just don't know if it's enough to pry my wallet out of my pocket for a new box just yet. Heaven knows the temptation is there. :-D
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Christopher Duncan wrote:
Vista appears to be a large collection of cool, but small, enhancements rather than something which brings anything major and new to the party.
That must be just a sincere request for information, right?
-------------------------------- "All that is necessary for the forces of evil to win in the world is for enough good men to do nothing" -- Edmund Burke
Nope. That's my perception based on looking at the wiki he pointed me to. Still looking for a fight, are we? :)
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I'd go even further...
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