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  • J Josh Smith

    DaTxomin wrote:

    should I ask for a written contract?

    Definitely. Without a contract you'll probably work "for free." Trust noone. :suss:

    DaTxomin wrote:

    A 10% upfront fee?

    If you can get more, get more. What you get upfront could very well be all that you get. I might sound paranoid, but everyone wants a free lunch.

    DaTxomin wrote:

    Payment/delivery schedule?

    Absolutely. Make sure that they can't go live with the app until you receive all (or almost all) of the payments. That will buy you some leverage in case they try to stiff you.

    :josh: My WPF Blog[^]
    I reckon they call me Captain Funkalot cuz I's be frequently getting funky and what not.

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    DaTxomin
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    I do, I do, I do get paranoid. I just don't want to ruin it because of it because it sounds interesting.

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      Jim Crafton wrote:

      Probably.

      I can see that providing clarity is your forte. ;)

      :josh: My WPF Blog[^]
      I reckon they call me Captain Funkalot cuz I's be frequently getting funky and what not.

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      Jim Crafton
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      I try :)

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      • D DaTxomin

        I do, I do, I do get paranoid. I just don't want to ruin it because of it because it sounds interesting.

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        Josh Smith
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        DaTxomin wrote:

        I do, I do, I do get paranoid. I just don't want to ruin it because of it because it sounds interesting.

        I wasn't joking. There's nothing wrong with a healthy dose of paranoia.

        :josh: My WPF Blog[^]
        I reckon they call me Captain Funkalot cuz I's be frequently getting funky and what not.

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        • D DaTxomin

          Thanks for the reply, Christian. I have requested the specification and am aware of the demons of poorly detaled ones. Now, 30%!, wow, I am out of touch. How do you handle delivery of the final product? Per full payment or by providing a working demo that may lock or...?

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          Christian Graus
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          I give them the exe, then they pay 33%. Then I give them the source code, and they pay the remainder.

          Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog

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            I give them the exe, then they pay 33%. Then I give them the source code, and they pay the remainder.

            Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog

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            DaTxomin
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            Interesting. I have not considered releasing the source. Shouldn't that up the price somewhat? It seems to make a big difference to me.

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            • J Josh Smith

              DaTxomin wrote:

              I do, I do, I do get paranoid. I just don't want to ruin it because of it because it sounds interesting.

              I wasn't joking. There's nothing wrong with a healthy dose of paranoia.

              :josh: My WPF Blog[^]
              I reckon they call me Captain Funkalot cuz I's be frequently getting funky and what not.

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              DaTxomin
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              I wasn't joking either, unfortunately.

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                I wasn't joking either, unfortunately.

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                Josh Smith
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                DaTxomin wrote:

                I wasn't joking either, unfortunately.

                :laugh:

                :josh: My WPF Blog[^]
                I reckon they call me Captain Funkalot cuz I's be frequently getting funky and what not.

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                • C Christian Graus

                  I give them the exe, then they pay 33%. Then I give them the source code, and they pay the remainder.

                  Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog

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                  bryce
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                  i hear the work is through rentacoder ;) bryce

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                    i hear the work is through rentacoder ;) bryce

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                    DaTxomin
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                    whose? well, mine isn't, and I would appreciate anything consructive if you can produce it.

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                    • D DaTxomin

                      Interesting. I have not considered releasing the source. Shouldn't that up the price somewhat? It seems to make a big difference to me.

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                      Christian Graus
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                      DaTxomin wrote:

                      I have not considered releasing the source

                      Then I hope you're not charging very much. If people pay you to write something, they own the source. At least, that's my attitude.

                      Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog

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                      • D DaTxomin

                        I have been asked by a large overseas company (reputable in principle) to develop a custom app. I have not done this kind of thing before and would like comments from experienced CPians. I shouldn't have a problem with the price tag: work hours + resources. However, should I ask for a written contract? A 10% upfront fee? Payment/delivery schedule? Keep in mind that the whole transaction will be done via email. As always, thank you all.

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                        Daniel Turini
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                        DaTxomin wrote:

                        However, should I ask for a written contract?

                        Yes, in the most natural way possible, e.g., in the middle of the conversation, say it, "BTW, would you prefer sending me some form of a standard contract you may have, or should I send you mine?"

                        DaTxomin wrote:

                        A 10% upfront fee? Payment/delivery schedule?

                        I'd ask for both, although in my experience, companies are *very* sensitive to paying anything upfront in some countries (although I had no problem with some other countries).

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                        • D DaTxomin

                          whose? well, mine isn't, and I would appreciate anything consructive if you can produce it.

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                          Christian Graus
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                          It's a joke, it's well known around here that I had a bad experience doing RAC work a few years ago

                          Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog

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                          • D Daniel Turini

                            DaTxomin wrote:

                            However, should I ask for a written contract?

                            Yes, in the most natural way possible, e.g., in the middle of the conversation, say it, "BTW, would you prefer sending me some form of a standard contract you may have, or should I send you mine?"

                            DaTxomin wrote:

                            A 10% upfront fee? Payment/delivery schedule?

                            I'd ask for both, although in my experience, companies are *very* sensitive to paying anything upfront in some countries (although I had no problem with some other countries).

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                            DaTxomin
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                            Useful information. Thanks Daniel, it is appreciated.

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