Impolite Installers
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All that biking in sub-zero temperatures seem to have had a maundering effect on Maunder. :rolleyes:
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Why are you running Java?
Nick Hodapp wrote:
Why are you running Java?
He's a heathen! Burn the heathen!
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I just installed the latest update for Java. While doing this I was browsing the net, reading some news and doing other stuff using the browser. At the end of the Java install the installer closed all my browsing windows - without asking - and reloaded the Java.com page so I could "test my install". So I lost the messages I was typing, the news I was reading, and my online work. Thanks Sun. X|
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
I'd bet you dollars to donuts that the first thing the installer said was "It is strongly recommended that you exit all programs before continuing with this installation." I guess they really meant it this time. ;P
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Steve Hansen wrote:
Quicktime Alternative & RealPlayer Alternative are the first 2 apps I install on any new installation
Do you have links to that?
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http://www.free-codecs.com/download/QuickTime_Alternative.htm[^] http://www.free-codecs.com/download/Real_Alternative.htm[^] That's where I always get mine :)
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I just installed the latest update for Java. While doing this I was browsing the net, reading some news and doing other stuff using the browser. At the end of the Java install the installer closed all my browsing windows - without asking - and reloaded the Java.com page so I could "test my install". So I lost the messages I was typing, the news I was reading, and my online work. Thanks Sun. X|
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
Are you sure you did not miss this screen: http://www.codeproject.com/script/profile/upload/15383/Capture.JPG[^] I just installed it for Fun and found that dialog at the very beginning of the install.
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Are you sure you did not miss this screen: http://www.codeproject.com/script/profile/upload/15383/Capture.JPG[^] I just installed it for Fun and found that dialog at the very beginning of the install.
I didn't get that screen. That's very weird. But even if I did: Do you really expect me to read such warnings? And do something about them? C'mon, I'm a product of the '90s and have a short attention span.
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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Are you sure you did not miss this screen: http://www.codeproject.com/script/profile/upload/15383/Capture.JPG[^] I just installed it for Fun and found that dialog at the very beginning of the install.
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I just installed the latest update for Java. While doing this I was browsing the net, reading some news and doing other stuff using the browser. At the end of the Java install the installer closed all my browsing windows - without asking - and reloaded the Java.com page so I could "test my install". So I lost the messages I was typing, the news I was reading, and my online work. Thanks Sun. X|
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
An idea has crossed my mind several times for a site called installerwatch.com or something like that, where people can submit info about what the installers for different programs do to your system, and what to watch for. You could get info about an installer before you ran it, and hopefully it would also put pressure on developers to do a better job of their installers.
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I just installed the latest update for Java. While doing this I was browsing the net, reading some news and doing other stuff using the browser. At the end of the Java install the installer closed all my browsing windows - without asking - and reloaded the Java.com page so I could "test my install". So I lost the messages I was typing, the news I was reading, and my online work. Thanks Sun. X|
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
Did you miss the "Close all applications before installing" message? That usually implies you don't open apps while installing either. Of course, the conclusion is probably based on a faulty premise: there was no "close all apps" message? Marc
People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith -
Impolite installers are one of my pet peeves. It really annoys me when installer decides that they should plaster my desktop with icons without asking, mess with file associations and decided to run on start up and put a cute icon in my taskbar every time I start (I'm looking at you Quicktime and Real Player). :mad:
Wjousts wrote:
plaster my desktop with icons without asking, mess with file associations
True. I am annoyed with Netscape Communicator Installation. Icons of AOL which I can't use in India, Radio for which I don't have bandwidth and a lot of such things to clutter my desktop. Furthermore, Windows search is disturbed too.
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Adobe auto update is anoying the hell out of me for the last wee while. It won't take no for an answer. You'd think saying no 100 times it would get the message.
Grady Booch: I told Google to their face...what you need is some serious adult supervision. (2007 Turing lecture) http:\\www.frankkerrigan.com
Frank Kerrigan wrote:
You'd think saying no 100 times
Window is frozen from user responses. :)
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Did you miss the "Close all applications before installing" message? That usually implies you don't open apps while installing either. Of course, the conclusion is probably based on a faulty premise: there was no "close all apps" message? Marc
People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh SmithToo many such messages make us just click 'OK' instead of reading it. There should be way where installer says 'Retry', 'Cancel' just Visual Studio setup doing when an IE or Visual Studio 6 is running.
Vasudevan Deepak Kumar Personal Homepage Tech Gossips
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Did you miss the "Close all applications before installing" message? That usually implies you don't open apps while installing either. Of course, the conclusion is probably based on a faulty premise: there was no "close all apps" message? Marc
People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh SmithMarc Clifton wrote:
there was no "close all apps" message?
Nope - and I'm usually pretty good about those things. So basically either user error or a bug in the installer. What's new, eh? ;)
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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I didn't get that screen. That's very weird. But even if I did: Do you really expect me to read such warnings? And do something about them? C'mon, I'm a product of the '90s and have a short attention span.
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
Chris Maunder wrote:
I'm a product of the '90s and have a short attention span.
I think you'll find it was the 80's, that lack of beer consumption has really messed with your mind.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004
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I didn't get that screen. That's very weird. But even if I did: Do you really expect me to read such warnings? And do something about them? C'mon, I'm a product of the '90s and have a short attention span.
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
Chris Maunder wrote:
I didn't get that screen
The reason you didn't get is that Sun have hard-coded the names of all Microsoft-based site owners in their installer ;P
"For fifty bucks I'd put my face in their soup and blow." - George Costanza
CP article: SmartPager - a Flickr-style pager control with go-to-page popup layer.
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Chris Maunder wrote:
I didn't get that screen
The reason you didn't get is that Sun have hard-coded the names of all Microsoft-based site owners in their installer ;P
"For fifty bucks I'd put my face in their soup and blow." - George Costanza
CP article: SmartPager - a Flickr-style pager control with go-to-page popup layer.
