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  • J jhwurmbach

    CleaKO wrote:

    think it is just easier to read when you say say what you want it to equal. If boolean = True instead of just saying If boolean

    Funny. For me its just the opposite: The superfluous = True imposes the nagging feel in me, I have missed something while reading the code. But then, the whole VB code gives me a screaming fit anyway. :rolleyes:


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    John R Shaw
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    #14

    jhwurmbach wrote:

    But then, the whole VB code gives me a screaming fit anyway.

    I know the feeling. ;)

    INTP "Program testing can be used to show the presence of bugs, but never to show their absence."Edsger Dijkstra

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    • P PIEBALDconsult

      CleaKO wrote:

      If boolean = True

      But then you may have trouble when the code is ported to C, so you really need: If True = boolean

      --| "Every tool is a hammer." |--

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      Shog9 0
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      You might still have trouble in C, if you run up against code that uses other non-zero values for "true"...

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      • M Marcus J Smith

        I think it is just easier to read when you say say what you want it to equal.

        If boolean = True

        instead of just saying

        If boolean

        I just couldnt think of a good example but what I was getting at is really saying something like

        If strType = "GOOD" OrElse strType = "COOL" Then
        'Good Record
        Else
        blnError = True
        End If

        instead of saying

        If strType <> "GOOD" AndAlso strType <> "COOL" Then
        blnError = True
        End If


        CleaKO

        "I think you'll be okay here, they have a thin candy shell. 'Surprised you didn't know that." - Tommy Boy
        "Fill it up again! Fill it up again! Once it hits your lips, it's so good!" - Frank the Tank (Old School)

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        AncientCodeslinger
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        If that's how you use booleans, you might as well just use an integer set to 1 or 0 or a string set to "Y" or "N" (or "True" or "False"). How about: somethingIsWrong = (type <> "GOOD" AndAlso type <> "Cool") With a variable name that clearly expresses the condition represented by the boolean, the comparison to True or False becomes clearly redundant.

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        • R Roger Bamforth

          Absolutely. Along the same lines, my pet peeve is

          bool b;

          if (condition)
          {
          b = true;
          }
          else
          {
          b = false;
          }

          what on earth is wrong with

          bool b = condition;

          Regards - Roger

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          Graham Bradshaw
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          Well, if the condition is to test the equality of two variables,

          bool b;

          if (x = y)
          {
          b = true;
          }
          else
          {
          b = false;
          }

          will give you a compiler warning, and

          bool b = (x = y);

          will not. (Note the assignment vs equality test bug)

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          • R Roger Bamforth

            Absolutely. Along the same lines, my pet peeve is

            bool b;

            if (condition)
            {
            b = true;
            }
            else
            {
            b = false;
            }

            what on earth is wrong with

            bool b = condition;

            Regards - Roger

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            Kevin McFarlane
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            #18

            It's also quite common. I often find myself starting with the first one, then after testing, stepping through, etc., I refactor to the second.

            Kevin

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            • M Marcus J Smith

              I think it is just easier to read when you say say what you want it to equal.

              If boolean = True

              instead of just saying

              If boolean

              I just couldnt think of a good example but what I was getting at is really saying something like

              If strType = "GOOD" OrElse strType = "COOL" Then
              'Good Record
              Else
              blnError = True
              End If

              instead of saying

              If strType <> "GOOD" AndAlso strType <> "COOL" Then
              blnError = True
              End If


              CleaKO

              "I think you'll be okay here, they have a thin candy shell. 'Surprised you didn't know that." - Tommy Boy
              "Fill it up again! Fill it up again! Once it hits your lips, it's so good!" - Frank the Tank (Old School)

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              Kevin McFarlane
              wrote on last edited by
              #19

              The reason for the first is that some people have a fixation about negative conditionals, such that they will try and avoid them at all costs - such as the cost you describe!

              Kevin

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              • J jhwurmbach

                CleaKO wrote:

                think it is just easier to read when you say say what you want it to equal. If boolean = True instead of just saying If boolean

                Funny. For me its just the opposite: The superfluous = True imposes the nagging feel in me, I have missed something while reading the code. But then, the whole VB code gives me a screaming fit anyway. :rolleyes:


                Failure is not an option - it's built right in.

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                Kevin McFarlane
                wrote on last edited by
                #20

                jhwurmbach wrote:

                But then, the whole VB code gives me a screaming fit anyway.

                But you see such style in the C-family languages too, though it's probably less common.

                Kevin

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                • G Graham Bradshaw

                  Well, if the condition is to test the equality of two variables,

                  bool b;

                  if (x = y)
                  {
                  b = true;
                  }
                  else
                  {
                  b = false;
                  }

                  will give you a compiler warning, and

                  bool b = (x = y);

                  will not. (Note the assignment vs equality test bug)

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                  Roger Bamforth
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #21

                  That's a good point and is actually something that had never occurred to me. However, whether or not you get a warning depends upon the types of x, y and b is not as simple as it seems. It is probably also language and compiler dependant. e.g in Visual C++

                  bool x = true;
                  bool y = true;
                  bool b = (x = y);
                  

                  gives no warning, as you say, but

                  int x = true;
                  int y = true;
                  bool b = (x = y);
                  

                  does generate a warning (forcing an int to be a bool) and

                  int x = true;
                  int y = true;
                  BOOL b = (x = y);
                  

                  doesn't.

                  Regards - Roger

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                  • M Marcus J Smith

                    This is so minor it probably is a non issue but it bugs me.

                    If blnFlag = False Then
                    'Good
                    Else
                    Continue
                    End If

                    This happens alot but I believe it is better to say

                    If blnFlag = True Then
                    Continue
                    End If


                    CleaKO

                    "I think you'll be okay here, they have a thin candy shell. 'Surprised you didn't know that." - Tommy Boy
                    "Fill it up again! Fill it up again! Once it hits your lips, it's so good!" - Frank the Tank (Old School)

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                    Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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                    #22

                    If there is a complicated method and I want to indicate that I did indeed accomodate both possibilities I will, ocassionaly, leave a blank if. However, I almost never check a boolean variable against a boolean and instead prefer : if(isFlagSet){ //Some commented out code or not about //Why not used } else if(!isFlagSet){ //Some Actual code ... } else{ //File Not Found } Just kidding with the File not found!


                    File Not Found

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                    • M Marcus J Smith

                      I think it is just easier to read when you say say what you want it to equal.

                      If boolean = True

                      instead of just saying

                      If boolean

                      I just couldnt think of a good example but what I was getting at is really saying something like

                      If strType = "GOOD" OrElse strType = "COOL" Then
                      'Good Record
                      Else
                      blnError = True
                      End If

                      instead of saying

                      If strType <> "GOOD" AndAlso strType <> "COOL" Then
                      blnError = True
                      End If


                      CleaKO

                      "I think you'll be okay here, they have a thin candy shell. 'Surprised you didn't know that." - Tommy Boy
                      "Fill it up again! Fill it up again! Once it hits your lips, it's so good!" - Frank the Tank (Old School)

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                      peterchen
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                      #23

                      boolean = True but that's a boolean expression again, which could be true.. or false. So to make absoultely clear you want b = true to be true (not false), you write If (boolean = True) = True lather, rinse, repeat :rolleyes:


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                      • G Graham Bradshaw

                        Well, if the condition is to test the equality of two variables,

                        bool b;

                        if (x = y)
                        {
                        b = true;
                        }
                        else
                        {
                        b = false;
                        }

                        will give you a compiler warning, and

                        bool b = (x = y);

                        will not. (Note the assignment vs equality test bug)

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                        D111
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                        #24

                        Shouldn't it be: bool b = (x == y); ---------- bool b = (x = y); would set x to y and then b to x

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