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  • P PIEBALDconsult

    CleaKO wrote:

    If boolean = True

    But then you may have trouble when the code is ported to C, so you really need: If True = boolean

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    Shog9 0
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    #15

    You might still have trouble in C, if you run up against code that uses other non-zero values for "true"...

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    • M Marcus J Smith

      I think it is just easier to read when you say say what you want it to equal.

      If boolean = True

      instead of just saying

      If boolean

      I just couldnt think of a good example but what I was getting at is really saying something like

      If strType = "GOOD" OrElse strType = "COOL" Then
      'Good Record
      Else
      blnError = True
      End If

      instead of saying

      If strType <> "GOOD" AndAlso strType <> "COOL" Then
      blnError = True
      End If


      CleaKO

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      AncientCodeslinger
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      If that's how you use booleans, you might as well just use an integer set to 1 or 0 or a string set to "Y" or "N" (or "True" or "False"). How about: somethingIsWrong = (type <> "GOOD" AndAlso type <> "Cool") With a variable name that clearly expresses the condition represented by the boolean, the comparison to True or False becomes clearly redundant.

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      • R Roger Bamforth

        Absolutely. Along the same lines, my pet peeve is

        bool b;

        if (condition)
        {
        b = true;
        }
        else
        {
        b = false;
        }

        what on earth is wrong with

        bool b = condition;

        Regards - Roger

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        Graham Bradshaw
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        Well, if the condition is to test the equality of two variables,

        bool b;

        if (x = y)
        {
        b = true;
        }
        else
        {
        b = false;
        }

        will give you a compiler warning, and

        bool b = (x = y);

        will not. (Note the assignment vs equality test bug)

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        • R Roger Bamforth

          Absolutely. Along the same lines, my pet peeve is

          bool b;

          if (condition)
          {
          b = true;
          }
          else
          {
          b = false;
          }

          what on earth is wrong with

          bool b = condition;

          Regards - Roger

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          Kevin McFarlane
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          #18

          It's also quite common. I often find myself starting with the first one, then after testing, stepping through, etc., I refactor to the second.

          Kevin

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          • M Marcus J Smith

            I think it is just easier to read when you say say what you want it to equal.

            If boolean = True

            instead of just saying

            If boolean

            I just couldnt think of a good example but what I was getting at is really saying something like

            If strType = "GOOD" OrElse strType = "COOL" Then
            'Good Record
            Else
            blnError = True
            End If

            instead of saying

            If strType <> "GOOD" AndAlso strType <> "COOL" Then
            blnError = True
            End If


            CleaKO

            "I think you'll be okay here, they have a thin candy shell. 'Surprised you didn't know that." - Tommy Boy
            "Fill it up again! Fill it up again! Once it hits your lips, it's so good!" - Frank the Tank (Old School)

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            Kevin McFarlane
            wrote on last edited by
            #19

            The reason for the first is that some people have a fixation about negative conditionals, such that they will try and avoid them at all costs - such as the cost you describe!

            Kevin

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            • J jhwurmbach

              CleaKO wrote:

              think it is just easier to read when you say say what you want it to equal. If boolean = True instead of just saying If boolean

              Funny. For me its just the opposite: The superfluous = True imposes the nagging feel in me, I have missed something while reading the code. But then, the whole VB code gives me a screaming fit anyway. :rolleyes:


              Failure is not an option - it's built right in.

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              Kevin McFarlane
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              #20

              jhwurmbach wrote:

              But then, the whole VB code gives me a screaming fit anyway.

              But you see such style in the C-family languages too, though it's probably less common.

              Kevin

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              • G Graham Bradshaw

                Well, if the condition is to test the equality of two variables,

                bool b;

                if (x = y)
                {
                b = true;
                }
                else
                {
                b = false;
                }

                will give you a compiler warning, and

                bool b = (x = y);

                will not. (Note the assignment vs equality test bug)

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                Roger Bamforth
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                #21

                That's a good point and is actually something that had never occurred to me. However, whether or not you get a warning depends upon the types of x, y and b is not as simple as it seems. It is probably also language and compiler dependant. e.g in Visual C++

                bool x = true;
                bool y = true;
                bool b = (x = y);
                

                gives no warning, as you say, but

                int x = true;
                int y = true;
                bool b = (x = y);
                

                does generate a warning (forcing an int to be a bool) and

                int x = true;
                int y = true;
                BOOL b = (x = y);
                

                doesn't.

                Regards - Roger

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                • M Marcus J Smith

                  This is so minor it probably is a non issue but it bugs me.

                  If blnFlag = False Then
                  'Good
                  Else
                  Continue
                  End If

                  This happens alot but I believe it is better to say

                  If blnFlag = True Then
                  Continue
                  End If


                  CleaKO

                  "I think you'll be okay here, they have a thin candy shell. 'Surprised you didn't know that." - Tommy Boy
                  "Fill it up again! Fill it up again! Once it hits your lips, it's so good!" - Frank the Tank (Old School)

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                  Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #22

                  If there is a complicated method and I want to indicate that I did indeed accomodate both possibilities I will, ocassionaly, leave a blank if. However, I almost never check a boolean variable against a boolean and instead prefer : if(isFlagSet){ //Some commented out code or not about //Why not used } else if(!isFlagSet){ //Some Actual code ... } else{ //File Not Found } Just kidding with the File not found!


                  File Not Found

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                  • M Marcus J Smith

                    I think it is just easier to read when you say say what you want it to equal.

                    If boolean = True

                    instead of just saying

                    If boolean

                    I just couldnt think of a good example but what I was getting at is really saying something like

                    If strType = "GOOD" OrElse strType = "COOL" Then
                    'Good Record
                    Else
                    blnError = True
                    End If

                    instead of saying

                    If strType <> "GOOD" AndAlso strType <> "COOL" Then
                    blnError = True
                    End If


                    CleaKO

                    "I think you'll be okay here, they have a thin candy shell. 'Surprised you didn't know that." - Tommy Boy
                    "Fill it up again! Fill it up again! Once it hits your lips, it's so good!" - Frank the Tank (Old School)

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                    peterchen
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #23

                    boolean = True but that's a boolean expression again, which could be true.. or false. So to make absoultely clear you want b = true to be true (not false), you write If (boolean = True) = True lather, rinse, repeat :rolleyes:


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                    • G Graham Bradshaw

                      Well, if the condition is to test the equality of two variables,

                      bool b;

                      if (x = y)
                      {
                      b = true;
                      }
                      else
                      {
                      b = false;
                      }

                      will give you a compiler warning, and

                      bool b = (x = y);

                      will not. (Note the assignment vs equality test bug)

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                      D111
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #24

                      Shouldn't it be: bool b = (x == y); ---------- bool b = (x = y); would set x to y and then b to x

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