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  • M Marc Clifton

    A site were I could watch real demonstrations of different technologies, like ORM, WPF, etc. Ranging from a basic walkthrough example to videos targetting one specific complicated issue. It'd be nice if, like articles, these could be submitted and voted on. Because there's so many emerging (and existing) technologies I don't know anything about but really want to and ought to. I want a call up an expert and say, give me a 30 minute rundown, without wading through a site, its documentation, examples that require setting up DB's and CTP's and OS's I don't have, etc. And I want it to be videos showing the product in action with dialog and watching the mouse move around on the screen, not something I have to read and I only get 1% of the real flavor/feel of the product. What do you all think? [edit]and that Channel 9 site is NOT what I mean[/edit] Marc

    Thyme In The Country
    Interacx

    People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
    There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
    People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith

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    It is a good idea. Would you ever be willing to pay for on-demand tutorials or would you rather it were ad. supported? You could do it through YouTube as suggested but, and it is a big one, the quality of YouTube is pants. Screencasts need to be shown at the res. they were recorded at.

    regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

    Shog9 wrote:

    And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...

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      CleaKO wrote:

      too snooty sounding

      I wasn't born with neither a plum nor a silver spoon in my mouth. My accent is a toned down Cockney London.

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      Yeah but a can Yank tell the difference ? Disclaimer: The above statement is purely intended as a joke. Any applicability to real life observations are purely coincidental.

      _____________________________________ Action without thought is not action Action without emotion is not life

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      • M Marc Clifton

        A site were I could watch real demonstrations of different technologies, like ORM, WPF, etc. Ranging from a basic walkthrough example to videos targetting one specific complicated issue. It'd be nice if, like articles, these could be submitted and voted on. Because there's so many emerging (and existing) technologies I don't know anything about but really want to and ought to. I want a call up an expert and say, give me a 30 minute rundown, without wading through a site, its documentation, examples that require setting up DB's and CTP's and OS's I don't have, etc. And I want it to be videos showing the product in action with dialog and watching the mouse move around on the screen, not something I have to read and I only get 1% of the real flavor/feel of the product. What do you all think? [edit]and that Channel 9 site is NOT what I mean[/edit] Marc

        Thyme In The Country
        Interacx

        People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
        There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
        People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith

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        That sounds like a great business for Second Life.

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        • M Marc Clifton

          A site were I could watch real demonstrations of different technologies, like ORM, WPF, etc. Ranging from a basic walkthrough example to videos targetting one specific complicated issue. It'd be nice if, like articles, these could be submitted and voted on. Because there's so many emerging (and existing) technologies I don't know anything about but really want to and ought to. I want a call up an expert and say, give me a 30 minute rundown, without wading through a site, its documentation, examples that require setting up DB's and CTP's and OS's I don't have, etc. And I want it to be videos showing the product in action with dialog and watching the mouse move around on the screen, not something I have to read and I only get 1% of the real flavor/feel of the product. What do you all think? [edit]and that Channel 9 site is NOT what I mean[/edit] Marc

          Thyme In The Country
          Interacx

          People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
          There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
          People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith

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          Tim Carmichael
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          I agree with you, 100%. Having said that, I think that the list can and should be expanded beyond 'emerging technologies'. Whether we like to admit it or not, there are many people who could benefit from tutorials on items that are even a few years old... For example, I recently had to find a way to get a .NET 2.0 component to work with a legacy application... I'm sure that many people have already surmounted this hurdle and now think of it as child's play or simply pan the idea in favour of moving the entire app to a new platform. Wish lists are wonderful, but when they run smack dab into business realities, they often fall by the wayside. Tim

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            It is a good idea. Would you ever be willing to pay for on-demand tutorials or would you rather it were ad. supported? You could do it through YouTube as suggested but, and it is a big one, the quality of YouTube is pants. Screencasts need to be shown at the res. they were recorded at.

            regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

            Shog9 wrote:

            And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...

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            Shog9 0
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            Paul Watson wrote:

            the quality of YouTube is pants

            You know, it just struck me - the perfect use for those flexible LCD screens, should they ever actually be manufactured in quantity: video trousers! :D

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            --Raymond Chen on MSDN

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            • M Marc Clifton

              A site were I could watch real demonstrations of different technologies, like ORM, WPF, etc. Ranging from a basic walkthrough example to videos targetting one specific complicated issue. It'd be nice if, like articles, these could be submitted and voted on. Because there's so many emerging (and existing) technologies I don't know anything about but really want to and ought to. I want a call up an expert and say, give me a 30 minute rundown, without wading through a site, its documentation, examples that require setting up DB's and CTP's and OS's I don't have, etc. And I want it to be videos showing the product in action with dialog and watching the mouse move around on the screen, not something I have to read and I only get 1% of the real flavor/feel of the product. What do you all think? [edit]and that Channel 9 site is NOT what I mean[/edit] Marc

              Thyme In The Country
              Interacx

              People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
              There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
              People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith

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              Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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              Only if they took out the sales element. There is nothing worse than watching a tech demonstration from a salesmans perspective.


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              • M Marc Clifton

                A site were I could watch real demonstrations of different technologies, like ORM, WPF, etc. Ranging from a basic walkthrough example to videos targetting one specific complicated issue. It'd be nice if, like articles, these could be submitted and voted on. Because there's so many emerging (and existing) technologies I don't know anything about but really want to and ought to. I want a call up an expert and say, give me a 30 minute rundown, without wading through a site, its documentation, examples that require setting up DB's and CTP's and OS's I don't have, etc. And I want it to be videos showing the product in action with dialog and watching the mouse move around on the screen, not something I have to read and I only get 1% of the real flavor/feel of the product. What do you all think? [edit]and that Channel 9 site is NOT what I mean[/edit] Marc

                Thyme In The Country
                Interacx

                People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
                There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
                People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith

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                Ryan Roberts
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                Like www.dnrtv.com[^]? They do some really handy screencasts.

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                  Video tutorials hosted on CP servers. This is an excellent idea but i'm not sure that CP servers would be able to cope. In any case, English english or American english should be the preferred language that these tutorials should be delivered in but when you consider that many readers of CP do not use any form of english as their primary language, this is a hurdle that might be insurmountable. And I would be happy to consider putting together some video tutorials on a variety of subjects should such an adventure take off. Wasn't this the subject of discussion recently on the Suggestions Forum?

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                  Rocky Moore
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                  It would not actually require hosting on CP servers, there are plenty of hosts out there such as youtube, google video, msn video, etc that host videos for free. All CP needs is a section to index all those videos out there that members submit to CP. So, the video itself could even be a channel 9 video, but CP would give a detailed description (provided by the CP member suggesting the video be added to the index) to the video and a link. This allows CP to index and catagorize the videos allowing cp members to vote on them. Another nice plus to a CP index, is that search engines cannot index the content in a video, but they can index the descriptions, which means CP can receive even greater hits from search engines.

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                    Paul Watson wrote:

                    the quality of YouTube is pants

                    You know, it just struck me - the perfect use for those flexible LCD screens, should they ever actually be manufactured in quantity: video trousers! :D

                    ----

                    It appears that everybody is under the impression that I approve of the documentation. You probably also blame Ken Burns for supporting slavery.

                    --Raymond Chen on MSDN

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                    Paul Watson
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                    Mrs. Shog9 from outer space: Baby, show me what is in your pants... *Shog9 from outer space turns on his video trousers*

                    regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                    Shog9 wrote:

                    And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...

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                      Mrs. Shog9 from outer space: Baby, show me what is in your pants... *Shog9 from outer space turns on his video trousers*

                      regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                      Shog9 wrote:

                      And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...

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                      Shog9 0
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                      Ah, well... Hey, how do you know about those videos?! :suss: ;P

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                      --Raymond Chen on MSDN

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                        He didnt say it had to be on CP, just "a site". And please no English english, too snooty sounding. ;P


                        CleaKO

                        "I think you'll be okay here, they have a thin candy shell. 'Surprised you didn't know that." - Tommy Boy
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                        You've been listening to the american idea of an english accent!

                        The tigress is here :-D

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                          Video tutorials hosted on CP servers. This is an excellent idea but i'm not sure that CP servers would be able to cope. In any case, English english or American english should be the preferred language that these tutorials should be delivered in but when you consider that many readers of CP do not use any form of english as their primary language, this is a hurdle that might be insurmountable. And I would be happy to consider putting together some video tutorials on a variety of subjects should such an adventure take off. Wasn't this the subject of discussion recently on the Suggestions Forum?

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                          Richard A. Abbott wrote:

                          Video tutorials hosted on CP servers.

                          Well no, I wasn't thinking CP would do this.

                          Richard A. Abbott wrote:

                          but when you consider that many readers of CP do not use any form of english as their primary language, this is a hurdle that might be insurmountable.

                          Well, there's no reason why someone shouldn't be able to put a video together in their own language, or even provide an audio dub. Marc

                          Thyme In The Country
                          Interacx

                          People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
                          There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
                          People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith

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                            He didnt say it had to be on CP, just "a site". And please no English english, too snooty sounding. ;P


                            CleaKO

                            "I think you'll be okay here, they have a thin candy shell. 'Surprised you didn't know that." - Tommy Boy
                            "Fill it up again! Fill it up again! Once it hits your lips, it's so good!" - Frank the Tank (Old School)

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                            lost in transition
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                            You done forgot about Bad English.


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                            Developer: A person who develops working systems by writing and using software. [^]

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                              You've been listening to the american idea of an english accent!

                              The tigress is here :-D

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                              Marcus J Smith
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                              You mean all those English sounding people I hear, Ian McKellan, Maggie Smith, etc.. are really American actors?


                              CleaKO

                              "I think you'll be okay here, they have a thin candy shell. 'Surprised you didn't know that." - Tommy Boy
                              "Fill it up again! Fill it up again! Once it hits your lips, it's so good!" - Frank the Tank (Old School)

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                              • M Marc Clifton

                                A site were I could watch real demonstrations of different technologies, like ORM, WPF, etc. Ranging from a basic walkthrough example to videos targetting one specific complicated issue. It'd be nice if, like articles, these could be submitted and voted on. Because there's so many emerging (and existing) technologies I don't know anything about but really want to and ought to. I want a call up an expert and say, give me a 30 minute rundown, without wading through a site, its documentation, examples that require setting up DB's and CTP's and OS's I don't have, etc. And I want it to be videos showing the product in action with dialog and watching the mouse move around on the screen, not something I have to read and I only get 1% of the real flavor/feel of the product. What do you all think? [edit]and that Channel 9 site is NOT what I mean[/edit] Marc

                                Thyme In The Country
                                Interacx

                                People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
                                There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
                                People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith

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                                Ed Poore
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                                This is a repost from a while ago in a ways (in the suggestion forum I think).  Chris wouldn't buy it because of the bandwidth but an alternative suggested was a site which people could simply link or add stuff to a directory.  The videos could then be hosted somewhere else, e.g. Googtube.

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                                  Ah, well... Hey, how do you know about those videos?! :suss: ;P

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                                  hook, line, sinker. :)

                                  -- Rules of thumb should not be taken for the whole hand.

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                                    hook, line, sinker. :)

                                    -- Rules of thumb should not be taken for the whole hand.

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                                    dan neely wrote:

                                    hook, line, sinker

                                    Hey! Keep your mind off my tackle. ;P

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                                      Like www.dnrtv.com[^]? They do some really handy screencasts.

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                                      SchaeferFFM
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                                      [Modified] This was supposed to be a reply to Ryan Roberts. Quoth Ryan:     Like www.dnrtv.com[^]? They do some really handy screencasts. BTW: why the heck can't i quote somebody whilst doing a modification? [/Modified] Thanks for the link! They allow content to be downloaded (zipped or torrent) :cool: I'm interested in Sahil Malik's shows on SharePoint 2007 and in the current WPF feature.

                                      -- Oliver

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                                      • M Marc Clifton

                                        Richard A. Abbott wrote:

                                        Video tutorials hosted on CP servers.

                                        Well no, I wasn't thinking CP would do this.

                                        Richard A. Abbott wrote:

                                        but when you consider that many readers of CP do not use any form of english as their primary language, this is a hurdle that might be insurmountable.

                                        Well, there's no reason why someone shouldn't be able to put a video together in their own language, or even provide an audio dub. Marc

                                        Thyme In The Country
                                        Interacx

                                        People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
                                        There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
                                        People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith

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                                        Marc Clifton wrote:

                                        audio dub

                                        Just like some TV programs and films. They are worse than useless in my opinion.

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                                        • M Marc Clifton

                                          A site were I could watch real demonstrations of different technologies, like ORM, WPF, etc. Ranging from a basic walkthrough example to videos targetting one specific complicated issue. It'd be nice if, like articles, these could be submitted and voted on. Because there's so many emerging (and existing) technologies I don't know anything about but really want to and ought to. I want a call up an expert and say, give me a 30 minute rundown, without wading through a site, its documentation, examples that require setting up DB's and CTP's and OS's I don't have, etc. And I want it to be videos showing the product in action with dialog and watching the mouse move around on the screen, not something I have to read and I only get 1% of the real flavor/feel of the product. What do you all think? [edit]and that Channel 9 site is NOT what I mean[/edit] Marc

                                          Thyme In The Country
                                          Interacx

                                          People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
                                          There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
                                          People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith

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                                          Mark_Wallace
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                                          Don't tell us, tell Google. Give 'em the idea, and let 'em run with it. If they set up a dedicated area just for product-demo movies, companies will fall over themselves to get their demos in there.

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