You know what I would find useful?
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Video tutorials hosted on CP servers. This is an excellent idea but i'm not sure that CP servers would be able to cope. In any case, English english or American english should be the preferred language that these tutorials should be delivered in but when you consider that many readers of CP do not use any form of english as their primary language, this is a hurdle that might be insurmountable. And I would be happy to consider putting together some video tutorials on a variety of subjects should such an adventure take off. Wasn't this the subject of discussion recently on the Suggestions Forum?
It would not actually require hosting on CP servers, there are plenty of hosts out there such as youtube, google video, msn video, etc that host videos for free. All CP needs is a section to index all those videos out there that members submit to CP. So, the video itself could even be a channel 9 video, but CP would give a detailed description (provided by the CP member suggesting the video be added to the index) to the video and a link. This allows CP to index and catagorize the videos allowing cp members to vote on them. Another nice plus to a CP index, is that search engines cannot index the content in a video, but they can index the descriptions, which means CP can receive even greater hits from search engines.
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Paul Watson wrote:
the quality of YouTube is pants
You know, it just struck me - the perfect use for those flexible LCD screens, should they ever actually be manufactured in quantity: video trousers! :D
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It appears that everybody is under the impression that I approve of the documentation. You probably also blame Ken Burns for supporting slavery.
--Raymond Chen on MSDN
Mrs. Shog9 from outer space: Baby, show me what is in your pants... *Shog9 from outer space turns on his video trousers*
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Shog9 wrote:
And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...
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Mrs. Shog9 from outer space: Baby, show me what is in your pants... *Shog9 from outer space turns on his video trousers*
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Shog9 wrote:
And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...
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He didnt say it had to be on CP, just "a site". And please no English english, too snooty sounding. ;P
CleaKO
"I think you'll be okay here, they have a thin candy shell. 'Surprised you didn't know that." - Tommy Boy
"Fill it up again! Fill it up again! Once it hits your lips, it's so good!" - Frank the Tank (Old School)You've been listening to the american idea of an english accent!
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Video tutorials hosted on CP servers. This is an excellent idea but i'm not sure that CP servers would be able to cope. In any case, English english or American english should be the preferred language that these tutorials should be delivered in but when you consider that many readers of CP do not use any form of english as their primary language, this is a hurdle that might be insurmountable. And I would be happy to consider putting together some video tutorials on a variety of subjects should such an adventure take off. Wasn't this the subject of discussion recently on the Suggestions Forum?
Richard A. Abbott wrote:
Video tutorials hosted on CP servers.
Well no, I wasn't thinking CP would do this.
Richard A. Abbott wrote:
but when you consider that many readers of CP do not use any form of english as their primary language, this is a hurdle that might be insurmountable.
Well, there's no reason why someone shouldn't be able to put a video together in their own language, or even provide an audio dub. Marc
People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith -
He didnt say it had to be on CP, just "a site". And please no English english, too snooty sounding. ;P
CleaKO
"I think you'll be okay here, they have a thin candy shell. 'Surprised you didn't know that." - Tommy Boy
"Fill it up again! Fill it up again! Once it hits your lips, it's so good!" - Frank the Tank (Old School)You done forgot about Bad English.
God Bless, Jason
Programmer: A biological machine designed to convert caffeine into code.
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You've been listening to the american idea of an english accent!
You mean all those English sounding people I hear, Ian McKellan, Maggie Smith, etc.. are really American actors?
CleaKO
"I think you'll be okay here, they have a thin candy shell. 'Surprised you didn't know that." - Tommy Boy
"Fill it up again! Fill it up again! Once it hits your lips, it's so good!" - Frank the Tank (Old School) -
A site were I could watch real demonstrations of different technologies, like ORM, WPF, etc. Ranging from a basic walkthrough example to videos targetting one specific complicated issue. It'd be nice if, like articles, these could be submitted and voted on. Because there's so many emerging (and existing) technologies I don't know anything about but really want to and ought to. I want a call up an expert and say, give me a 30 minute rundown, without wading through a site, its documentation, examples that require setting up DB's and CTP's and OS's I don't have, etc. And I want it to be videos showing the product in action with dialog and watching the mouse move around on the screen, not something I have to read and I only get 1% of the real flavor/feel of the product. What do you all think? [edit]and that Channel 9 site is NOT what I mean[/edit] Marc
People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh SmithThis is a repost from a while ago in a ways (in the suggestion forum I think). Chris wouldn't buy it because of the bandwidth but an alternative suggested was a site which people could simply link or add stuff to a directory. The videos could then be hosted somewhere else, e.g. Googtube.
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Ah, well... Hey, how do you know about those videos?! :suss: ;P
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It appears that everybody is under the impression that I approve of the documentation. You probably also blame Ken Burns for supporting slavery.
--Raymond Chen on MSDN
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Like www.dnrtv.com[^]? They do some really handy screencasts.
[Modified] This was supposed to be a reply to Ryan Roberts. Quoth Ryan: Like www.dnrtv.com[^]? They do some really handy screencasts. BTW: why the heck can't i quote somebody whilst doing a modification? [/Modified] Thanks for the link! They allow content to be downloaded (zipped or torrent) :cool: I'm interested in Sahil Malik's shows on SharePoint 2007 and in the current WPF feature.
-- Oliver
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Richard A. Abbott wrote:
Video tutorials hosted on CP servers.
Well no, I wasn't thinking CP would do this.
Richard A. Abbott wrote:
but when you consider that many readers of CP do not use any form of english as their primary language, this is a hurdle that might be insurmountable.
Well, there's no reason why someone shouldn't be able to put a video together in their own language, or even provide an audio dub. Marc
People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith -
A site were I could watch real demonstrations of different technologies, like ORM, WPF, etc. Ranging from a basic walkthrough example to videos targetting one specific complicated issue. It'd be nice if, like articles, these could be submitted and voted on. Because there's so many emerging (and existing) technologies I don't know anything about but really want to and ought to. I want a call up an expert and say, give me a 30 minute rundown, without wading through a site, its documentation, examples that require setting up DB's and CTP's and OS's I don't have, etc. And I want it to be videos showing the product in action with dialog and watching the mouse move around on the screen, not something I have to read and I only get 1% of the real flavor/feel of the product. What do you all think? [edit]and that Channel 9 site is NOT what I mean[/edit] Marc
People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh SmithDon't tell us, tell Google. Give 'em the idea, and let 'em run with it. If they set up a dedicated area just for product-demo movies, companies will fall over themselves to get their demos in there.
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You mean all those English sounding people I hear, Ian McKellan, Maggie Smith, etc.. are really American actors?
CleaKO
"I think you'll be okay here, they have a thin candy shell. 'Surprised you didn't know that." - Tommy Boy
"Fill it up again! Fill it up again! Once it hits your lips, it's so good!" - Frank the Tank (Old School)No, but they don't speak with a regional English accent either. ~A
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A site were I could watch real demonstrations of different technologies, like ORM, WPF, etc. Ranging from a basic walkthrough example to videos targetting one specific complicated issue. It'd be nice if, like articles, these could be submitted and voted on. Because there's so many emerging (and existing) technologies I don't know anything about but really want to and ought to. I want a call up an expert and say, give me a 30 minute rundown, without wading through a site, its documentation, examples that require setting up DB's and CTP's and OS's I don't have, etc. And I want it to be videos showing the product in action with dialog and watching the mouse move around on the screen, not something I have to read and I only get 1% of the real flavor/feel of the product. What do you all think? [edit]and that Channel 9 site is NOT what I mean[/edit] Marc
People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh SmithThat's the way an awful lot of tutorials etc for blender[^] are done - and I have to say it's a really good way of doing it! Perhaps a facility on CP to post a videotutorial rather than a straight article?
"Now I guess I'll sit back and watch people misinterpret what I just said......" Christian Graus At The Soapbox
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A site were I could watch real demonstrations of different technologies, like ORM, WPF, etc. Ranging from a basic walkthrough example to videos targetting one specific complicated issue. It'd be nice if, like articles, these could be submitted and voted on. Because there's so many emerging (and existing) technologies I don't know anything about but really want to and ought to. I want a call up an expert and say, give me a 30 minute rundown, without wading through a site, its documentation, examples that require setting up DB's and CTP's and OS's I don't have, etc. And I want it to be videos showing the product in action with dialog and watching the mouse move around on the screen, not something I have to read and I only get 1% of the real flavor/feel of the product. What do you all think? [edit]and that Channel 9 site is NOT what I mean[/edit] Marc
People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh SmithFirst of all, learning a lot of esoteric technology is a waste of time since you will never get to use most of it and by the time you get to use maybe a fraction of what you do know something else would have appeared. Second!; read a book, and stop watching so much television. Reading a good technical manual will do a lot more for you than watching watered down crap on a screen. Besides, Its bad for your sociological development...
Steve Naidamast Black Falcon Software, Inc. blackfalconsoftware@ix.netcom.com
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CleaKO wrote:
too snooty sounding
I wasn't born with neither a plum nor a silver spoon in my mouth. My accent is a toned down Cockney London.
You wasn't born with neither? I'm a little rusty on my double negatives... Does that mean you were born with one? Or both? ;P
Try code model generation tools at BoneSoft.com.
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Video tutorials hosted on CP servers. This is an excellent idea but i'm not sure that CP servers would be able to cope. In any case, English english or American english should be the preferred language that these tutorials should be delivered in but when you consider that many readers of CP do not use any form of english as their primary language, this is a hurdle that might be insurmountable. And I would be happy to consider putting together some video tutorials on a variety of subjects should such an adventure take off. Wasn't this the subject of discussion recently on the Suggestions Forum?
How about organized on CP but stored on another site such as YouTube? Each video tutorial would have a page here with additional information, downloads, and discussion, but the actual video would be hosted by YouTube and simply displayed on the CP page. That should work, right?
Christopher S. 'coldacid' Charabaruk E-mail: chris at coldacid dot ent Web: http://coldacid.net/
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You done forgot about Bad English.
God Bless, Jason
Programmer: A biological machine designed to convert caffeine into code.
Developer: A person who develops working systems by writing and using software. [^]Dow dow dowdowdow (Deliverance banjo) :rolleyes:
CleaKO
"I think you'll be okay here, they have a thin candy shell. 'Surprised you didn't know that." - Tommy Boy
"Fill it up again! Fill it up again! Once it hits your lips, it's so good!" - Frank the Tank (Old School) -
Dow dow dowdowdow (Deliverance banjo) :rolleyes:
CleaKO
"I think you'll be okay here, they have a thin candy shell. 'Surprised you didn't know that." - Tommy Boy
"Fill it up again! Fill it up again! Once it hits your lips, it's so good!" - Frank the Tank (Old School)what the hell is it?