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  • R Raj Lal

    i think you have covered it all

    Shog9 wrote:

    the method is unfair to the customer, as the grocer was using the items not being weighed to hide his fat thumb on the balance.

    :laugh:

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    MoustafaS
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    Do you have another one ?:-D

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    • R Raj Lal

      Since nobody was able to solve it yesterday, i wanted to give a chance to those guys who did not tried Puzzle of the (YESTER)Day A grocer discovered his beam balance was faulty, So he started a new method for weighing customer's orders He divides the order into two halves, putting the first half in the left hand of the balance and weights in the right, then do the opposite. The method is unique no doubt, but is the method fair also, to both his customers and himself ? You can hide , you can run, but you cannot escape, Vote it down if you want to escape i mean if you think the puzzle is not worth a repost. HERE is a sample of PAN Balance[^] SOLUTION[^]

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      Tim Deveaux
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      Is it a scale or a balance? A balance doesn't have two pans - I don't see how you could put a large dollop of loose lard on the beam side without causing the customer some concern.

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      • R Raj Lal

        Since nobody was able to solve it yesterday, i wanted to give a chance to those guys who did not tried Puzzle of the (YESTER)Day A grocer discovered his beam balance was faulty, So he started a new method for weighing customer's orders He divides the order into two halves, putting the first half in the left hand of the balance and weights in the right, then do the opposite. The method is unique no doubt, but is the method fair also, to both his customers and himself ? You can hide , you can run, but you cannot escape, Vote it down if you want to escape i mean if you think the puzzle is not worth a repost. HERE is a sample of PAN Balance[^] SOLUTION[^]

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        PIEBALDconsult
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        Quartz... wrote:

        Since nobody was able to solve it yesterday

        You mean because it's a senseless exercise and you haven't yet thought up a way out or a way to reword the puzzle so that it makes sense. Just post the stupid answer as a reply to the original post so we'll know just how stupid it is already.

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        • R Raj Lal

          Since nobody was able to solve it yesterday, i wanted to give a chance to those guys who did not tried Puzzle of the (YESTER)Day A grocer discovered his beam balance was faulty, So he started a new method for weighing customer's orders He divides the order into two halves, putting the first half in the left hand of the balance and weights in the right, then do the opposite. The method is unique no doubt, but is the method fair also, to both his customers and himself ? You can hide , you can run, but you cannot escape, Vote it down if you want to escape i mean if you think the puzzle is not worth a repost. HERE is a sample of PAN Balance[^] SOLUTION[^]

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          Raj Lal
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          Where are you guys ... ?

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            Quartz... wrote:

            Since nobody was able to solve it yesterday

            You mean because it's a senseless exercise and you haven't yet thought up a way out or a way to reword the puzzle so that it makes sense. Just post the stupid answer as a reply to the original post so we'll know just how stupid it is already.

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            Raj Lal
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            I was quite impressed by your answers and queries yesterday but this was a bit rude i will post the answer by the end of the day

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            • H hlmechanic

              since the problem with the beam balance is that it is sticking at the pivit, any time he puts the weights on last it will take more weight than normal to make it move. Thus he is cheating. Every time. REALLY need to know what is wrong with balance. Then it is just a physics problem.:sigh:

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              hlmechanic wrote:

              REALLY need to know what is wrong with balance

              Exactly, the puzzle doesn't have all the information, the worst kind.

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              • M MoustafaS

                Do you have another one ?:-D

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                Raj Lal
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                you always seems to be interested in puzzles, but i never saw you giving a try on any of them why ???

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                • R Raj Lal

                  I was quite impressed by your answers and queries yesterday but this was a bit rude i will post the answer by the end of the day

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                  PIEBALDconsult
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                  You should have posted by the end of yesterday.

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                  • R Raj Lal

                    you always seems to be interested in puzzles, but i never saw you giving a try on any of them why ???

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                    MoustafaS
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                    I asked you once for one, but after that you've been late, I got sleep, then never seen you one, at all I am here now , let's give a try.

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                    • R Raj Lal

                      Since nobody was able to solve it yesterday, i wanted to give a chance to those guys who did not tried Puzzle of the (YESTER)Day A grocer discovered his beam balance was faulty, So he started a new method for weighing customer's orders He divides the order into two halves, putting the first half in the left hand of the balance and weights in the right, then do the opposite. The method is unique no doubt, but is the method fair also, to both his customers and himself ? You can hide , you can run, but you cannot escape, Vote it down if you want to escape i mean if you think the puzzle is not worth a repost. HERE is a sample of PAN Balance[^] SOLUTION[^]

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                      if the balance isn't fair with W, how can it be 'fair' with W/2 ? and how does he determine W/2, without a balance? (by volume? by item count?)

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                        if the balance isn't fair with W, how can it be 'fair' with W/2 ? and how does he determine W/2, without a balance? (by volume? by item count?)

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                        Chris Losinger wrote:

                        if the balance isn't fair with W, how can it be 'fair' with W/2 ?

                        it won't be so the grocer thought to weigh 1/2 in the left with the weight in the right and half on the right with the weight in the left to make it fair thats the question

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                        • R Raj Lal

                          Chris Losinger wrote:

                          if the balance isn't fair with W, how can it be 'fair' with W/2 ?

                          it won't be so the grocer thought to weigh 1/2 in the left with the weight in the right and half on the right with the weight in the left to make it fair thats the question

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                          Chris Losinger
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                          so how does he determine 1/2 ?

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                          • C Chris Losinger

                            so how does he determine 1/2 ?

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                            Raj Lal
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                            thats the assumption here ( which should be taken as correct ) That can be item count or any other reliable way

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                            • P PIEBALDconsult

                              hlmechanic wrote:

                              REALLY need to know what is wrong with balance

                              Exactly, the puzzle doesn't have all the information, the worst kind.

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                              Raj Lal
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                              PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                              the puzzle doesn't have all the information, the worst kind

                              Ever wonder ! why it is called a puzzle !

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                              • R Raj Lal

                                thats the assumption here ( which should be taken as correct ) That can be item count or any other reliable way

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                                PIEBALDconsult
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                                That's nonsense, at least as regards groceries as I understand them. Now if he were a water seller, that would be something else, but then he'd sell by volume rather than weight. Unless the answer is, "it would never be fair to sell groceries all at the same price per unit of weight", there can be no definitive answer to the problem as stated. And I argue that even that answer is incorrect.

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                                • R Raj Lal

                                  thats the assumption here ( which should be taken as correct ) That can be item count or any other reliable way

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                                  Quartz... wrote:

                                  thats the assumption here ( which should be taken as correct )

                                  So if we assume that 1/2 the order can be weighed correctly, just multiply it by 2 to get the weight of the whole order. :rolleyes:


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                                    Quartz... wrote:

                                    thats the assumption here ( which should be taken as correct )

                                    So if we assume that 1/2 the order can be weighed correctly, just multiply it by 2 to get the weight of the whole order. :rolleyes:


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                                    "Judge not by the eye but by the heart." - Native American Proverb

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                                    Raj Lal
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                                    the assumption is he is able to divide the order in two halfs he cannot weigh any of the halfs accurately Example if he is selling packets of sugar and there are 4 packets he knows that half of them will be two packets , but he won't know that how much woulds be the weight of a single packet or two packets

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                                      Quartz... wrote:

                                      thats the assumption here ( which should be taken as correct )

                                      So if we assume that 1/2 the order can be weighed correctly, just multiply it by 2 to get the weight of the whole order. :rolleyes:


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                                      Chris Losinger
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                                      ding ding. we have a winner.

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                                      • T Tim Deveaux

                                        Is it a scale or a balance? A balance doesn't have two pans - I don't see how you could put a large dollop of loose lard on the beam side without causing the customer some concern.

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                                        Raj Lal
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                                        HERE is a sample of PAN Balance[^]

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                                        • R Raj Lal

                                          the assumption is he is able to divide the order in two halfs he cannot weigh any of the halfs accurately Example if he is selling packets of sugar and there are 4 packets he knows that half of them will be two packets , but he won't know that how much woulds be the weight of a single packet or two packets

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                                          PIEBALDconsult
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                                          It's printed on the packet. And why would he be selling them by weight? Or individually for that matter? And what if the customer is buying a packet of sugar and a watermelon?

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