Worst Software Ever
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Hold your breath on that one. I think Vista is going to be a great platform in it's time. It's very new and is going to require some adaptation. Change is painful but please don't tell me that XP has been an epiphany. Vista is going to get it done.
My name is Maximus Decimus Meridius, Commander of the Armies of the North, General of the Felix Legions, loyal servant to the true emperor, Marcus Aurelius. Father to a murdered process, husband to a murdered thread. And I will have my vengeance, in this life or the next. - Gladiator I work to live. I do not live to work. My clients do not seem capable of grasping this fact.
I can't find a message from me on XP, but I think there is one that has content a bit like my last message. Actually, Vista performs quite well on my system and development has been smooth as well without the UAC turned on.
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1. Microsoft Windows Millennium Edition. (The fall of the empire) 2. Symentec Antivirus and other stuff (All versions, all flavors) 3. McAfee (Any) 4. GTalk, and all desktop applications by google (except for Google Earth) 5. RealOne player Crapware software (Which includes a bunch of real crap) 6. MSN Messenger (the present live messenger is somewhat okay..) 7. ALL the software stuff shipped with HP hardware. (They happily hog memory and some processess will hang around, even after you quit the software) 8. Apple's video player (I don't remember the name)
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7. ALL the software stuff shipped with HP hardware. (They happily hog memory and some processess will hang around, even after you quit the software)
Yes indeed, two examples: 1) I bought an HP (XP MCE) system, wiped the drive and did a nice clean install of XP Pro, I needed a sound driver so I got it from the HP site... after the basic driver installed, some "realtek" thingy installed automatically and killed the driver, I then had to uninstall the "realtek" thingy. Then everything was OK for a while, but then an "update" for the "realtek" thingy came down the pipe and I had to uninstall it again. 2) I bought an HP all-in-one printer, I wanted to install the driver, the install asked if I wanted to install the "full" for "express" version of some image cataloguing system, I didn't want to install any version of it I just wanted the printer driver! Tech support said I could just uninstall the unwanted software afterward, WTF?! 2A) Then my wife got a digital camera and asked if we had some kind of image cataloguing system. Why, yes, I happen to have one right here... Now here's where I really have a problem: I don't use the "recycle bin", I turn it off. But when I tried to delete an image in the image cataloguing system, it reported "Unable to delete blah blah", WTF?! What's it doing? Doesn't it simply tell Windows to delete it? So, I turned on the recycle bin and told it to use 0MB, and now the thing works as expected.
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brahmma wrote:
7. ALL the software stuff shipped with HP hardware. (They happily hog memory and some processess will hang around, even after you quit the software)
Yes indeed, two examples: 1) I bought an HP (XP MCE) system, wiped the drive and did a nice clean install of XP Pro, I needed a sound driver so I got it from the HP site... after the basic driver installed, some "realtek" thingy installed automatically and killed the driver, I then had to uninstall the "realtek" thingy. Then everything was OK for a while, but then an "update" for the "realtek" thingy came down the pipe and I had to uninstall it again. 2) I bought an HP all-in-one printer, I wanted to install the driver, the install asked if I wanted to install the "full" for "express" version of some image cataloguing system, I didn't want to install any version of it I just wanted the printer driver! Tech support said I could just uninstall the unwanted software afterward, WTF?! 2A) Then my wife got a digital camera and asked if we had some kind of image cataloguing system. Why, yes, I happen to have one right here... Now here's where I really have a problem: I don't use the "recycle bin", I turn it off. But when I tried to delete an image in the image cataloguing system, it reported "Unable to delete blah blah", WTF?! What's it doing? Doesn't it simply tell Windows to delete it? So, I turned on the recycle bin and told it to use 0MB, and now the thing works as expected.
FYI realtek is a maker of integrated audio components. It's came with a few lowend mobos of mine, it may be a POS (i never had a problem, but never used the audio on those boxes either) but it's not HPs crapware.
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norm .net wrote:
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norm seriously... do you do the steve ballmer dance every morning or something??? :wtf:
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Well, Symantec calls it "Norton Antivirus", but we all know that it itself is a virus. Did you ever try to uninstall it? Can't be done.
Abu Mami wrote:
Did you ever try to uninstall it? Can't be done.
Well, you can. On the website of symantec, there is a tutorial about how installing their products proeprly. The first three steps of the tutorial is launching a small executables that removes everything from symantec on your hard drive, so that it is clean for them to be reinstalled (which are point 5 and 6 of the tutorial). Simply launch the executable removing everything and do not reinstall, and you are done. I can't seem to find a link, but it is on the symantec website somewhere.
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I should remote-kick you anyway, just for the principles. But it's definitely cool to have Chris point this out :cool: :jig: Only one? So I can't submit Stallshield, Installsh*t, and Shields-me-from-installing as separate entries? :(
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I should remote-kick you anyway, just for the principles.
Does that mean you don't like my calling you Mr. Chen? :~ If so, I'll just call you Peter. I meant no offense.
Cheers, Vikram.
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Have you tried Sage Accpac[^]? I have seen it in action a couple of times and it is fantastic.
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It's not like I chose SAP - it's a company wide tool for all sorts of stuff. I only use it for recording my hours (which then get marked against the budgets for different tasks) - it's bad enough for that. When we used VAX/VMS, I wrote a character mode app. for time booking - it was so much more usable than SAP it's unbelievable.
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Abu Mami wrote:
Did you ever try to uninstall it? Can't be done.
Well, you can. On the website of symantec, there is a tutorial about how installing their products proeprly. The first three steps of the tutorial is launching a small executables that removes everything from symantec on your hard drive, so that it is clean for them to be reinstalled (which are point 5 and 6 of the tutorial). Simply launch the executable removing everything and do not reinstall, and you are done. I can't seem to find a link, but it is on the symantec website somewhere.
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus
Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverbHere: http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/tsgeninfo.nsf/docid/2005033108162039?Open&docid=2005092709200113&nsf=sharedtech.nsf&view=docid[^] The URL is as easy to type as the crapware is to remove!
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Ok what is the worst piece of software you have ever worked with and why: (It can be any software or code that you have personally worked with) Not limited to something you have developed, can be an OS
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Abu Mami wrote:
Did you ever try to uninstall it? Can't be done.
Well, you can. On the website of symantec, there is a tutorial about how installing their products proeprly. The first three steps of the tutorial is launching a small executables that removes everything from symantec on your hard drive, so that it is clean for them to be reinstalled (which are point 5 and 6 of the tutorial). Simply launch the executable removing everything and do not reinstall, and you are done. I can't seem to find a link, but it is on the symantec website somewhere.
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus
Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb -
peterchen wrote:
I should remote-kick you anyway, just for the principles.
Does that mean you don't like my calling you Mr. Chen? :~ If so, I'll just call you Peter. I meant no offense.
Cheers, Vikram.
The cold will freeze our stares We won't care...
Relax :) It is of course cool to have some more or less self-chosen antics maintained by others. I'm not only weird, you help me be weird in an almost controllable way. But of course, I'd never admit that publicly :cool:
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Yeah. I am currently trying to access a third-party-whitelist in order to add some addresses. Opening the freaking whitelist (4 entries so far) took 15 minutes. Will someone please kill me?
Cheers, Sebastian -- Contra vim mortem non est medicamen in hortem.
Sebastian Schneider wrote:
Will someone please kill me?
no, you cant get out of that email client so easily.
-Prakash
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Becuase they lack the very spirit. Google is the best when it comes to Internet search. That doesn't mean they should poke their nose into everything. *I have modified the post to exempt google earth from the blacklist*
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Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero ப்ரம்மாthe primary purpose of gtalk is to have voice chat (that is why it is talk) and not text chat and so far i havent seen any other software that gives better voice clarity than gtalk.
-Prakash
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the primary purpose of gtalk is to have voice chat (that is why it is talk) and not text chat and so far i havent seen any other software that gives better voice clarity than gtalk.
-Prakash
May be true, but the interface and those white, cheesy windows just make me sick and I never bothered to try a voice chat using it (well I never do a voice chat anyway, if I feel like talking, I do it over the phone). Google earth is a great piece of software though.
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May be true, but the interface and those white, cheesy windows just make me sick and I never bothered to try a voice chat using it (well I never do a voice chat anyway, if I feel like talking, I do it over the phone). Google earth is a great piece of software though.
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Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero ப்ரம்மாWell using gtalk is very cheap compared to phone when talking to people in other country. If you just look at its purpose and how much memory it consumes, then you would realise that it is doing its job quite correctly, compared to yahoo and msn that consumes memory in the range of 30-40mb.
-Prakash
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Well using gtalk is very cheap compared to phone when talking to people in other country. If you just look at its purpose and how much memory it consumes, then you would realise that it is doing its job quite correctly, compared to yahoo and msn that consumes memory in the range of 30-40mb.
-Prakash
Sounds like a pretty good explanation. If you are this sure, it must be good then. I will give it a try. :)
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norm .net wrote:
.net is a box of never ending treasures, every day I get find another gem.
norm seriously... do you do the steve ballmer dance every morning or something??? :wtf:
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