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    Can someone explain to me, or point me in the direction of the history of the Dutch/Belgian enclaves. So far, I've found a description of them and a map. As far as I can make out, the following map is of an area of The Netherlands. In and around the village are various enclaves (Belgian territory). However, in some of those Belgian enclaves are some Dutch enclaves (An enclave within an enclave). The map: http://www.grenspalen.nl/archief/baarle-map%20met%20enclave-aanduidingen-center.jpg[^] As you can see, you can walk down some streets and flip between Dutch and Belgian territory several times. So, how did they come about? (one of the more recent enclaves was created in 1995 and is large enough to build a couple of houses on.) Who takes responsibility for things? e.g. What happens if a crime is committed? and the offender runs across the border? Can a police officer cross easily? What about the municipal government?


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      Can someone explain to me, or point me in the direction of the history of the Dutch/Belgian enclaves. So far, I've found a description of them and a map. As far as I can make out, the following map is of an area of The Netherlands. In and around the village are various enclaves (Belgian territory). However, in some of those Belgian enclaves are some Dutch enclaves (An enclave within an enclave). The map: http://www.grenspalen.nl/archief/baarle-map%20met%20enclave-aanduidingen-center.jpg[^] As you can see, you can walk down some streets and flip between Dutch and Belgian territory several times. So, how did they come about? (one of the more recent enclaves was created in 1995 and is large enough to build a couple of houses on.) Who takes responsibility for things? e.g. What happens if a crime is committed? and the offender runs across the border? Can a police officer cross easily? What about the municipal government?


      Upcoming events: * Edinburgh: Web Security Conference Day for Windows Developers (12th April) * Glasgow: Introduction to AJAX (2nd May), SQL Server, Mock Objects My website

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      Try here[^]? Found on Wikipedia's article about Baarle-Nassau[^].

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        Can someone explain to me, or point me in the direction of the history of the Dutch/Belgian enclaves. So far, I've found a description of them and a map. As far as I can make out, the following map is of an area of The Netherlands. In and around the village are various enclaves (Belgian territory). However, in some of those Belgian enclaves are some Dutch enclaves (An enclave within an enclave). The map: http://www.grenspalen.nl/archief/baarle-map%20met%20enclave-aanduidingen-center.jpg[^] As you can see, you can walk down some streets and flip between Dutch and Belgian territory several times. So, how did they come about? (one of the more recent enclaves was created in 1995 and is large enough to build a couple of houses on.) Who takes responsibility for things? e.g. What happens if a crime is committed? and the offender runs across the border? Can a police officer cross easily? What about the municipal government?


        Upcoming events: * Edinburgh: Web Security Conference Day for Windows Developers (12th April) * Glasgow: Introduction to AJAX (2nd May), SQL Server, Mock Objects My website

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        Tim Deveaux
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        Belgian endives are a product of trans-genetic engineering, as far as I know. They are not considered dutch treats. hth :~

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          Can someone explain to me, or point me in the direction of the history of the Dutch/Belgian enclaves. So far, I've found a description of them and a map. As far as I can make out, the following map is of an area of The Netherlands. In and around the village are various enclaves (Belgian territory). However, in some of those Belgian enclaves are some Dutch enclaves (An enclave within an enclave). The map: http://www.grenspalen.nl/archief/baarle-map%20met%20enclave-aanduidingen-center.jpg[^] As you can see, you can walk down some streets and flip between Dutch and Belgian territory several times. So, how did they come about? (one of the more recent enclaves was created in 1995 and is large enough to build a couple of houses on.) Who takes responsibility for things? e.g. What happens if a crime is committed? and the offender runs across the border? Can a police officer cross easily? What about the municipal government?


          Upcoming events: * Edinburgh: Web Security Conference Day for Windows Developers (12th April) * Glasgow: Introduction to AJAX (2nd May), SQL Server, Mock Objects My website

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          Momos2302
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          These enclaves origin from land exchange between 2 dutchesses, in the 14th century or even before. The exchange being because of the fertility of the lands. After the pact of Münster (end of 80 year war) part of Holland became under Spannish rule (by proxy Duke of Barbant) and part (northern) was under rule of Dukes of Nassau. Hence Baarle Hertog (Hertog means Duke) and Baarle Nassau. The village however stayed undevided and is called Baarle. Ather 1830 belgium and netherland seperated along this line. The lines are still the old lines of the fields and run through houses, shops etc build on it. The rule is that the position of the frontdoor decides which country and even there is some problems with that. in 1995 the borders were decided once and for all.. To make things clear, every house number also has a national flag besides it. However, there are no big consquences anymore. belgium and the netehrlands have open borders for many decades.

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            Can someone explain to me, or point me in the direction of the history of the Dutch/Belgian enclaves. So far, I've found a description of them and a map. As far as I can make out, the following map is of an area of The Netherlands. In and around the village are various enclaves (Belgian territory). However, in some of those Belgian enclaves are some Dutch enclaves (An enclave within an enclave). The map: http://www.grenspalen.nl/archief/baarle-map%20met%20enclave-aanduidingen-center.jpg[^] As you can see, you can walk down some streets and flip between Dutch and Belgian territory several times. So, how did they come about? (one of the more recent enclaves was created in 1995 and is large enough to build a couple of houses on.) Who takes responsibility for things? e.g. What happens if a crime is committed? and the offender runs across the border? Can a police officer cross easily? What about the municipal government?


            Upcoming events: * Edinburgh: Web Security Conference Day for Windows Developers (12th April) * Glasgow: Introduction to AJAX (2nd May), SQL Server, Mock Objects My website

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            Vikram A Punathambekar
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            If you're interested in this kind of stuff, I suggest you read about the India-Bangla Desh enclaves. :)

            Cheers, Vikram.


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