Whose fault??
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Fault is unimportant at this point Hiral. What you really need to be doing is correcting the error wherever it originated. Try to treat this as a lesson so that the next time you can handle this bug before it ever shows up.
We Tested the application before uploading and also after upload it. It was working fine in both ways but I don't know what is the exact error occuring and why?
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But what if he is not allowing me to even touch that application. I didn't see that error from my eyes. My boss told me that and I can't do the testing because there are some entries in the database having auto increment field so he may come to know that I did something with the application.
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You still have the code right? You can always point the app to a test database somewhere else. It sounds like your boss is being a total ass. It sounds like it may be time to find something better out there.
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Just tell me, have u got testers let alone a proper QA department? If your organization hasnt got one, then you people are in serious trouble.
"Some people believe football is a matter of life and death. I'm very disappointed with that attitude. I can assure you it is much, much more important than that. -- Bill Shankly"
Well the company I am working in is opened just before few months. It is a developing company such it will have one soon but that will not solve the problem of mine that I am having right now.
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Hi,:( I made an application that is online registration. I checked it at local as well as after upload that, Even my Boss and HR Manager checked that application. The candidate started to make registration through that and almost above 60 candidates did that successfully, and suddenlly there was an error occured of loading library of common function made by me. I did not make any change after uploadation. My boss is telling that it is my mistake, Either I did not make such good application or I made changes after starting of registration.:(( :(( :(( I know that how much hard effort I put to make this application good, I didn't look at the watch. I worked for this in the day as well as late night. Now can I know your views for that, Whose fault it is?
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It's your job to find out.
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Hi,:( I made an application that is online registration. I checked it at local as well as after upload that, Even my Boss and HR Manager checked that application. The candidate started to make registration through that and almost above 60 candidates did that successfully, and suddenlly there was an error occured of loading library of common function made by me. I did not make any change after uploadation. My boss is telling that it is my mistake, Either I did not make such good application or I made changes after starting of registration.:(( :(( :(( I know that how much hard effort I put to make this application good, I didn't look at the watch. I worked for this in the day as well as late night. Now can I know your views for that, Whose fault it is?
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I am sorry blame is not good to place. But it is in the hands of the developer of the product. If your library fails then it is the developers issue to fix it. The issue could come from lots of other issues, but it is still your job to figure out what happens. If you are using sharepoint 2007 I have seen this issue a lot. As a developer I am ??? in the air because i can nor the team figure out why this issue happens. We think our issue has something to do a file locked and we are not handling the execptio, which could cause a execption in the dll to load.
Chris Calzaretta
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here we don't have different department of QA over here. Just me my boss and HR Manager have tested that
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Sounds like your boss and HR were your QA department for this project. In the end, it doesn't matter you've buggy software online. You need to figure out how to fix the bug and your boss needs to address any issues it's caused and consider if there are improvements to be made in the process. Can you check file timestamps to prove you didn't touch the code? Compare vs. source control?
BW
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We Tested the application before uploading and also after upload it. It was working fine in both ways but I don't know what is the exact error occuring and why?
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Thats why we are professionals :) Seriously. Sometimes bugs don't show up until a very special set of circumstances. The approach in the past has been to rely on a Testing department to find these bugs for you. I've never agreed with that approach as it seems just way to reactive to me. If I were you, I'd be trying to recreate the bug in a test environment AND I'd be adding unit and integration test to my code base.
My Blog A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. - -Lazarus Long
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You still have the code right? You can always point the app to a test database somewhere else. It sounds like your boss is being a total ass. It sounds like it may be time to find something better out there.
My Blog A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. - -Lazarus Long
Well I checked the Full application more than 160 times with a different database but I am not getting any error. But he said that the institute got the error from my application.
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Just tell me, have u got testers let alone a proper QA department? If your organization hasnt got one, then you people are in serious trouble.
"Some people believe football is a matter of life and death. I'm very disappointed with that attitude. I can assure you it is much, much more important than that. -- Bill Shankly"
Aamir Butt wrote:
proper QA department
It's not unusal for smaller code shops to not have a real QA department. Not ideal, obviously, but with proper processes it's certainly a workable situation. Consider all the one-man shops out there earning a successful living all by their lonesome.
BW
Quick to judge, quick to anger, slow to understand.
Ignorance and prejudice and fear walk hand in hand.
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Did the testing dept tested the Application before Uploading.
Regards, Satips.
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Hi,:( I made an application that is online registration. I checked it at local as well as after upload that, Even my Boss and HR Manager checked that application. The candidate started to make registration through that and almost above 60 candidates did that successfully, and suddenlly there was an error occured of loading library of common function made by me. I did not make any change after uploadation. My boss is telling that it is my mistake, Either I did not make such good application or I made changes after starting of registration.:(( :(( :(( I know that how much hard effort I put to make this application good, I didn't look at the watch. I worked for this in the day as well as late night. Now can I know your views for that, Whose fault it is?
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hiral_shah wrote:
uploadation
Sounds like something you'd hear in a hi-tech baptist sermon... After your prayer uploadation... I say-yed... UPLOADATION-ah...
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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Hi,:( I made an application that is online registration. I checked it at local as well as after upload that, Even my Boss and HR Manager checked that application. The candidate started to make registration through that and almost above 60 candidates did that successfully, and suddenlly there was an error occured of loading library of common function made by me. I did not make any change after uploadation. My boss is telling that it is my mistake, Either I did not make such good application or I made changes after starting of registration.:(( :(( :(( I know that how much hard effort I put to make this application good, I didn't look at the watch. I worked for this in the day as well as late night. Now can I know your views for that, Whose fault it is?
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hiral_shah wrote:
Whose fault it is?
Does it matter? Will knowing solve the problem?
“Some have an idea that the reason we in this country discard things so readily is because we have so much. The facts are exactly opposite - the reason we have so much is simply because we discard things so readily. We replace the old in return for something that will serve us better.”--Alfred P. Sloan
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hiral_shah wrote:
uploadation
Sounds like something you'd hear in a hi-tech baptist sermon... After your prayer uploadation... I say-yed... UPLOADATION-ah...
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
UPLOADATION-ah...
Amen brother! Uplodation and cast ye all blame aside'!
Dad always thought laughter was the best medicine, which I guess is why several of us died of tuberculosis. I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it.
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Hi,:( I made an application that is online registration. I checked it at local as well as after upload that, Even my Boss and HR Manager checked that application. The candidate started to make registration through that and almost above 60 candidates did that successfully, and suddenlly there was an error occured of loading library of common function made by me. I did not make any change after uploadation. My boss is telling that it is my mistake, Either I did not make such good application or I made changes after starting of registration.:(( :(( :(( I know that how much hard effort I put to make this application good, I didn't look at the watch. I worked for this in the day as well as late night. Now can I know your views for that, Whose fault it is?
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So te first 60 were successful then it statrted to fail? How many registrations were carried out in testing? It could be simply a fault in the server not related to the software itself. If you live in a culture where blame counts then consider looking elsewhere. Elaine :rose:
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hiral_shah wrote:
Whose fault it is?
Does it matter? Will knowing solve the problem?
“Some have an idea that the reason we in this country discard things so readily is because we have so much. The facts are exactly opposite - the reason we have so much is simply because we discard things so readily. We replace the old in return for something that will serve us better.”--Alfred P. Sloan
Jerry Hammond wrote:
Does it matter?
Well it is, because it is the question of my impression in the office.
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Aamir Butt wrote:
proper QA department
It's not unusal for smaller code shops to not have a real QA department. Not ideal, obviously, but with proper processes it's certainly a workable situation. Consider all the one-man shops out there earning a successful living all by their lonesome.
BW
Quick to judge, quick to anger, slow to understand.
Ignorance and prejudice and fear walk hand in hand.
-- Neil PeartI know that small shops can't have a QA department but at least they can have a tester to test the basic functionality. And as far as the one-man shops are concerned, there is no one above them to put the blame on them after something like this.
"Some people believe football is a matter of life and death. I'm very disappointed with that attitude. I can assure you it is much, much more important than that. -- Bill Shankly"
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So te first 60 were successful then it statrted to fail? How many registrations were carried out in testing? It could be simply a fault in the server not related to the software itself. If you live in a culture where blame counts then consider looking elsewhere. Elaine :rose:
Trollslayer wrote:
How many registrations were carried out in testing?
More than 250.
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Trollslayer wrote:
How many registrations were carried out in testing?
More than 250.
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hiral_shah wrote:
More than 250.
By carrying out that much of registration it doesn't shows any error aah? What a Pity? Blaaaaaaaaah!!! Blaaaaaaah!!!!
Regards, Satips.
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hiral_shah wrote:
Whose fault it is?
The testers. I hate finger pointing. It should be "How can we get this problem sorted out best?" not "Who's fault is it?"
Dad always thought laughter was the best medicine, which I guess is why several of us died of tuberculosis. I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it.
Nic Rowan wrote:
It should be "How can we get this problem sorted out best?"
No, no, no, that's the Japanese way of doing things. Since this is the United States, that simply won't work here! Someone MUST be blamed, usually me. :-D
Dave Kreskowiak Microsoft MVP Visual Developer - Visual Basic
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Nic Rowan wrote:
It should be "How can we get this problem sorted out best?"
No, no, no, that's the Japanese way of doing things. Since this is the United States, that simply won't work here! Someone MUST be blamed, usually me. :-D
Dave Kreskowiak Microsoft MVP Visual Developer - Visual Basic
2006, 2007Dammit , youve hit on my latest software project . A B.A.M system . (blame allocation system ) . It consists of a list of projects and a list of names you link one to the other and select "create blame". Its a sure fire winner.
Bad code does not kill apps , assumptions do.
