rentacoder is a fraud
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Erm...you've only just realised? Hint: do a historical search for "Rentacoder" in the lounge. X|
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do not work with rentacoder , it is a fraud. search google and you will know why. scan thru. first few websites. http://www.google.co.in/search?q=rentacoder+fraud&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
Umm...i somewhat agree....but i think its your mistake to under-estimate the chances of fraud....i have worked with rentacoder...and also faced such unfair arbitration...the first time it was a horrifying experience ... i would have expected something like this in our country...but a company based in US is allowed to do this...terribly bad compared to its hype around the world.. (no offence meant towards the people living there)...comps like rentacoder are legally unethical business ...they know how to bend rules enough without breaking them... and so you should also try to learn that before entering into this unethically driven business.. not all customers are bad at rentacoder....but ppl with bad intentions will do so, no matter what...in those cases... i learnt how to deal with these unethical arbitrators and stupid buyers... example: at the slightest doubt about the buyers, give out older source codes and newer but leaky and time-bomb binaries (a little bit more work)... when they go to arbitration (which you must expect as unfair)...just extend it as long as possible...waste their time bcoz they did it with yours...never release the final code to buyers then...frustrate them, be professional with the arbitrator and praise him for his unfair decisions (esp that Mr. Ajay Bhatija is an absolute idiot) ...and just before you get bad points....give up...even if you loose your imp time...at the end you wont be as frustrated ...but wud experience a devilish happiness :mad: working for rentacoder is like trying to have a domestic lion ... so you better learn to handle it before you work with it... on the positive side you would learn about some of the bad faces of real business without actually having to start out one. -- modified at 7:17 Friday 4th May, 2007
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The third hit returned from that search is "50 ways to Force Shut down fraud business like rentacoder.com". Suggestion #8: submit a post to codeproject.com. Oh-oh. Looks like we will need a Rentacoder message board. ;)
I thoroughly expect that board will fill up with messages pretty quickly.
Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.
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Umm...i somewhat agree....but i think its your mistake to under-estimate the chances of fraud....i have worked with rentacoder...and also faced such unfair arbitration...the first time it was a horrifying experience ... i would have expected something like this in our country...but a company based in US is allowed to do this...terribly bad compared to its hype around the world.. (no offence meant towards the people living there)...comps like rentacoder are legally unethical business ...they know how to bend rules enough without breaking them... and so you should also try to learn that before entering into this unethically driven business.. not all customers are bad at rentacoder....but ppl with bad intentions will do so, no matter what...in those cases... i learnt how to deal with these unethical arbitrators and stupid buyers... example: at the slightest doubt about the buyers, give out older source codes and newer but leaky and time-bomb binaries (a little bit more work)... when they go to arbitration (which you must expect as unfair)...just extend it as long as possible...waste their time bcoz they did it with yours...never release the final code to buyers then...frustrate them, be professional with the arbitrator and praise him for his unfair decisions (esp that Mr. Ajay Bhatija is an absolute idiot) ...and just before you get bad points....give up...even if you loose your imp time...at the end you wont be as frustrated ...but wud experience a devilish happiness :mad: working for rentacoder is like trying to have a domestic lion ... so you better learn to handle it before you work with it... on the positive side you would learn about some of the bad faces of real business without actually having to start out one. -- modified at 7:17 Friday 4th May, 2007
Anup Shinde wrote:
at the slightest doubt about the buyers, give out older source codes and newer but leaky and time-bomb binaries (a little bit more work)...
What are time-bomb binaries?
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Umm...i somewhat agree....but i think its your mistake to under-estimate the chances of fraud....i have worked with rentacoder...and also faced such unfair arbitration...the first time it was a horrifying experience ... i would have expected something like this in our country...but a company based in US is allowed to do this...terribly bad compared to its hype around the world.. (no offence meant towards the people living there)...comps like rentacoder are legally unethical business ...they know how to bend rules enough without breaking them... and so you should also try to learn that before entering into this unethically driven business.. not all customers are bad at rentacoder....but ppl with bad intentions will do so, no matter what...in those cases... i learnt how to deal with these unethical arbitrators and stupid buyers... example: at the slightest doubt about the buyers, give out older source codes and newer but leaky and time-bomb binaries (a little bit more work)... when they go to arbitration (which you must expect as unfair)...just extend it as long as possible...waste their time bcoz they did it with yours...never release the final code to buyers then...frustrate them, be professional with the arbitrator and praise him for his unfair decisions (esp that Mr. Ajay Bhatija is an absolute idiot) ...and just before you get bad points....give up...even if you loose your imp time...at the end you wont be as frustrated ...but wud experience a devilish happiness :mad: working for rentacoder is like trying to have a domestic lion ... so you better learn to handle it before you work with it... on the positive side you would learn about some of the bad faces of real business without actually having to start out one. -- modified at 7:17 Friday 4th May, 2007
Anup Shinde wrote:
you better learn to handle it before you work with it
Good advice, but the problem - as Christian has explained in excruciating detail - is that things are stacked against the coder at RAC, so if there's a dispute, you have no chance of winning. This thread made me start thinking once again about what it would be like if CP had a "premium content" section, with downloads of source code costing a few dollars (< $10), shared with the author. With the volume here at CP, even a $1 charge would quickly add up to $100's.
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Anup Shinde wrote:
at the slightest doubt about the buyers, give out older source codes and newer but leaky and time-bomb binaries (a little bit more work)...
What are time-bomb binaries?
code written in such a way tat after a particular time has passed the code will cause application to shutdown or crash, behave in a manner that wasnt expected or corrupt its data...crash windows..crash the harddisk...change cmos passwords....the options are unlimited.. (neways that was my terminology)
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Anup Shinde wrote:
you better learn to handle it before you work with it
Good advice, but the problem - as Christian has explained in excruciating detail - is that things are stacked against the coder at RAC, so if there's a dispute, you have no chance of winning. This thread made me start thinking once again about what it would be like if CP had a "premium content" section, with downloads of source code costing a few dollars (< $10), shared with the author. With the volume here at CP, even a $1 charge would quickly add up to $100's.
i just want to say that stay away from arbitration at RAC....and minimize your pains when doing so. ofcourse you cant win in an unfair battle (unless spiderman comes to some help :) ) ... you will definitely lose in an RAC arbitration....just try to minimize your losses and maximize opponent's losses why do you want CP users to pay for source-codes.... i love this site only bcoz its completely free...and when i author articles i dont expect anything in return.... for those who want to sell the source code.. I think the unfair RAC stands for them :) ...just joking....there are other sites
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i just want to say that stay away from arbitration at RAC....and minimize your pains when doing so. ofcourse you cant win in an unfair battle (unless spiderman comes to some help :) ) ... you will definitely lose in an RAC arbitration....just try to minimize your losses and maximize opponent's losses why do you want CP users to pay for source-codes.... i love this site only bcoz its completely free...and when i author articles i dont expect anything in return.... for those who want to sell the source code.. I think the unfair RAC stands for them :) ...just joking....there are other sites
Anup Shinde wrote:
why do you want CP users to pay for source-codes
I'm not suggesting a charge for all source code, just some "premium content".
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code written in such a way tat after a particular time has passed the code will cause application to shutdown or crash, behave in a manner that wasnt expected or corrupt its data...crash windows..crash the harddisk...change cmos passwords....the options are unlimited.. (neways that was my terminology)
Anup Shinde wrote:
behave in a manner that wasnt expected or corrupt its data...crash windows..crash the harddisk...change cmos passwords....the options are unlimited..
First, that's unethical. Second, it's illegal in this country. Third, you're an idiot.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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Anup Shinde wrote:
why do you want CP users to pay for source-codes
I'm not suggesting a charge for all source code, just some "premium content".
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Anup Shinde wrote:
behave in a manner that wasnt expected or corrupt its data...crash windows..crash the harddisk...change cmos passwords....the options are unlimited..
First, that's unethical. Second, it's illegal in this country. Third, you're an idiot.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
First, that's unethical. Second, it's illegal in this country. Third, you're an idiot.
So you think RAC's unfair arbitration is ethical and RAC being unethical is legal ??? :-D I m pretty sure you spent a lot of money to sue Microsoft for tat blue screen considering that it was illegal..:laugh: i wud agree with ur last line...software ppl find problems...solve them...and then find more problems in the solved problems to solve them... :):omg:
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
First, that's unethical. Second, it's illegal in this country. Third, you're an idiot.
So you think RAC's unfair arbitration is ethical and RAC being unethical is legal ??? :-D I m pretty sure you spent a lot of money to sue Microsoft for tat blue screen considering that it was illegal..:laugh: i wud agree with ur last line...software ppl find problems...solve them...and then find more problems in the solved problems to solve them... :):omg:
Anup Shinde wrote:
So you think RAC's unfair arbitration is ethical and RAC being unethical is legal ??? :-D
Nothing John said suggests that, but evidently they are operating within the boundaries of the law
Anup Shinde wrote:
m pretty sure you spent a lot of money to sue Microsoft for tat blue screen considering that it was illegal..:laugh:
What the heck does that comment have to do with anything
Anup Shinde wrote:
wud agree with ur last line...
Remarkable. You actually agree that you are an idiot. Johns point was that all of your suggestions for how to respond are neither ethical nor legal, and that you are an idiot for even suggesting them. And John is right.
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Anup Shinde wrote:
So you think RAC's unfair arbitration is ethical and RAC being unethical is legal ??? :-D
Nothing John said suggests that, but evidently they are operating within the boundaries of the law
Anup Shinde wrote:
m pretty sure you spent a lot of money to sue Microsoft for tat blue screen considering that it was illegal..:laugh:
What the heck does that comment have to do with anything
Anup Shinde wrote:
wud agree with ur last line...
Remarkable. You actually agree that you are an idiot. Johns point was that all of your suggestions for how to respond are neither ethical nor legal, and that you are an idiot for even suggesting them. And John is right.
Rob Graham wrote:
John is right.
I think that should be put up there with the text that reads "Do not post programming questions in the lounge". Beyond that, our friend probably just graduated from his "Learn Just Enough English to Get By in a Customer Service Role" class. He probably didn't understand half of what I said. :)
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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Rob Graham wrote:
John is right.
I think that should be put up there with the text that reads "Do not post programming questions in the lounge". Beyond that, our friend probably just graduated from his "Learn Just Enough English to Get By in a Customer Service Role" class. He probably didn't understand half of what I said. :)
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 -
hehe :-D Probably you just read less than half of the points I wrote... I think now you should also take permanent membership to the legally ethical idiot's club...i'll come there sometimes to cheer for u
Anup Shinde wrote:
Probably you just read less than half of the points I wrote... I think now you should also take permanent membership to the legally ethical idiot's club...i'll come there sometimes to cheer for u
Good grief. Are you trying to be a laughingstock? Spend a few extra seconds proofing... :wtf:
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Anup Shinde wrote:
Probably you just read less than half of the points I wrote... I think now you should also take permanent membership to the legally ethical idiot's club...i'll come there sometimes to cheer for u
Good grief. Are you trying to be a laughingstock? Spend a few extra seconds proofing... :wtf:
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It appears that everybody is under the impression that I approve of the documentation. You probably also blame Ken Burns for supporting slavery.
--Raymond Chen on MSDN
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Anup Shinde wrote:
Probably you just read less than half of the points I wrote... I think now you should also take permanent membership to the legally ethical idiot's club...i'll come there sometimes to cheer for u
Good grief. Are you trying to be a laughingstock? Spend a few extra seconds proofing... :wtf:
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It appears that everybody is under the impression that I approve of the documentation. You probably also blame Ken Burns for supporting slavery.
--Raymond Chen on MSDN
I stopped responding to him because I feel that I've made my point. And he's still an idiot. He may even be a VB "programmer", which would go a long way to explain his limited intellect.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 -
I stopped responding to him because I feel that I've made my point. And he's still an idiot. He may even be a VB "programmer", which would go a long way to explain his limited intellect.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001It's getting increasingly hard to tell the difference between the people with very poor English skills and the people who post by drooling on their keyboards. :sigh:
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It appears that everybody is under the impression that I approve of the documentation. You probably also blame Ken Burns for supporting slavery.
--Raymond Chen on MSDN
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I stopped responding to him because I feel that I've made my point. And he's still an idiot. He may even be a VB "programmer", which would go a long way to explain his limited intellect.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001What does VBism has to do with Idiotism... i think you are a VCist.... and i m as much idiot as you are ... since our discussion here is worthless when it comes to helping coders who really suffer...one who has not suffered doesnt understand the pain and yeah...if u still want to say..."he would go a long way to explain his limited intellect".... u r welcome... ur words dont matter neways coming to your points....definitely i agree that its unethical and illegal (in your country and in mine) to create the so called "time-bombs" in the source code ...better way is to take an advance and have a timeline for regular payments ... i dont work for RAC anymore but used to agree on similar timelines before starting any project... but sites like rentacoder cross any country's boundaries and unethically exploit people outside these boundaries .. which is unfortunately not bound by national laws ... i hope you agree on this ... there should be some kind of international laws to protect interest of both the parties before any such trading is allowed ofcourse my suggestions are kind of unethical-war tactics that should never be used those are illegal inside a country does not mean that it cannot happen outside... its the responsibility of sites like RAC to act as a gatekeeper ... but they will not be able to deliver ethically unless they treat developers ethically...that is what the title of this post discusses
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It's getting increasingly hard to tell the difference between the people with very poor English skills and the people who post by drooling on their keyboards. :sigh:
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It appears that everybody is under the impression that I approve of the documentation. You probably also blame Ken Burns for supporting slavery.
--Raymond Chen on MSDN
Shog9 wrote:
It's getting increasingly hard to tell the difference between the people with very poor English skills and the people who post by drooling on their keyboards
That, my dear sir, should be required reading in colleges and universities.
Why is common sense not common? Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level where they are an expert. Sometimes it takes a lot of work to be lazy
