Working atmosphere?
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Hi, How important is the working atmosphere at your work place to you? Does these factors decide whether you quit your job or not? 1. Good air conditioning 2. Comfortable chairs and desk 3. PC with good configuration 4. Availability of good food at work or nearby. 5. Access to internet without restrictions 6. Hygienic surroundings. 7. Spacious work place 8. Descent pay 9. Opportunity to learn new technology related to work 10.Friendly colleagues I feel all the above would be close to a perfect job. But unfortunately I do not have most them at my work place. Any comments on this? Regards, Blumen
1. It is required to make Texas compatible with life 2. yes 3. Decent system with as many monitors as you can cram on the desk. LCD or nothing. 4. no 5. All I need is CP and Microsoft sites really. This is work. 6. I do want to stay alive 7. More room for more monitors :) 8. yeah 9. See #5 10. I've got two adoring fur covered critters and the best little boy in the world to keep me company 11. commute under one minute 12. Work from home.
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blumenhause wrote:
1. Good air conditioning 2. Comfortable chairs and desk 3. PC with good configuration 4. Availability of good food at work or nearby. 5. Access to internet without restrictions 6. Hygienic surroundings. 7. Spacious work place 8. Descent pay 9. Opportunity to learn new technology related to work 10.Friendly colleagues
Well so far I have 1,2,3,4,6,7,8 and 10 (with a little 9 thrown in). I work for a fantastic organization, 4 months ago they purchased all the programmers new computers with: 1. Dual Intel Duo-Core processors 2. 4 GB Memory 3. 2 250 GB HD 4. ATI X1950XTX video card 5. DVD-RW+ 6. Dual 21 inch monitors I know the dual Duo-Core processors is over-kill but it's nice to have. As for the spacious work area, granted we work in cubicles (as do most employees) but the cubicles are at least twice as big as anything I've worked in in my career. As for the pay, I just got a raise that moved me to the middle upper-class for this area (my pay went up about $950 a month) and it's going to go up again this year, they've hired a company to evaluate our pay based on the "norm" for this state, which takes into account Microsoft on the other side of the state. All in all, this is far and away the BEST organization I've ever worked for and I couldn't be happier.
"Okay, I give up: which is NOT a real programming language????" Michael Bergman
"Well yes, it is an Integer, but it's a metrosexual Integer. For all we know, under all that hair gel it could be a Boolean." Tom Welch
"Let's face it, the average computer user has the brain of a Spider Monkey." Bill Gates
PS: I'm sorry for not asking permission for 2 of the quotes above.
RLMcCutchen wrote:
As for the pay, I just got a raise that moved me to the middle upper-class for this area (my pay went up about $950 a month) and it's going to go up again this year, they've hired a company to evaluate our pay based on the "norm" for this state, which takes into account Microsoft on the other side of the state.
I company I worked for in the middle of the tech bubble did the same thing. I had just gotten a 20% pay raise for moving to a new job then a 30% raise the same year to bring me up to the average for that position.
Using the GridView is like trying to explain to someone else how to move a third person's hands in order to tie your shoelaces for you. -Chris Maunder
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11. Admin rights on your system
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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11. Admin rights on your system
I am an admin on my machine, and even on some of the servers I work on. We have an on-site work-our facility and things are soon to gete ven better as we will be moving into our new building (a 235,000 square foot facility with on-site daycare and full service cafeteria) and all Application Developers get an office with an actual door on it. I know it sounds too good to be true but this organization is, well its just simply incredible. All the developers are on salary (granted with the occasional long hours you lose a bit in pay but when you're doing what is your true passion does it really matter?) The organization has several "company" outings a year, like last year thy rented an amusement park in North Idaho (Silverwood [^]) for the company function, even catered it with kick ass BBQ. This year on the 25th they've rented the IMAX Theater and are taking the company to see Spiderman 3. Last years Christmas party they reserved a HUGE banquet room at the most expensive hotel in town, fully catered w/ a wet bar and gave away over $5000 in "prizes" and every employee got a 1GB MP3 player as their gift. We have a huge company picnic each year (this one you can bring your entire family) and of course its fully catered as well. The nicest part about this organization (aside from REALLY taking care of their IT Department) is when it comes to development and releases of in-house software is we actually have a strict process for pushing updates to the users, this makes it so nice for the developers.
"Okay, I give up: which is NOT a real programming language????" Michael Bergman
"Well yes, it is an Integer, but it's a metrosexual Integer. For all we know, under all that hair gel it could be a Boolean." Tom Welch
"Let's face it, the average computer user has the brain of a Spider Monkey." Bill Gates
PS: I'm sorry for not asking permission for 2 of the quotes above.
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Hi, How important is the working atmosphere at your work place to you? Does these factors decide whether you quit your job or not? 1. Good air conditioning 2. Comfortable chairs and desk 3. PC with good configuration 4. Availability of good food at work or nearby. 5. Access to internet without restrictions 6. Hygienic surroundings. 7. Spacious work place 8. Descent pay 9. Opportunity to learn new technology related to work 10.Friendly colleagues I feel all the above would be close to a perfect job. But unfortunately I do not have most them at my work place. Any comments on this? Regards, Blumen
- fails every year, I've been hospitalized once from heat exposure, but otherwise it's livable 2) Eisenhower loved his chairs and desks, so why shouldn't we love his tables and chairs? ;) 3) ahhhh... PC goodness! 4) lowest bid winning food... mmmmm.... goody.... ;) 5) This exists? :confused: 6) Hygienic for you, the mice, rats, rattlesnakes, and even the squirrel I saw the other day. Very friendly location. 7) Well, I don't share my office, the others all do. 8) Pay is rarely Descending, though not always Ascending either, but okay for the area 9) R&D... I am getting that tingle again... :-D 10) They are very friendly, as long as you can avoid religious conversation with one, say anything bad about java to another, or Linux to several.
blumenhause wrote:
I feel all the above would be close to a perfect job. But unfortunately I do not have most them at my work place. Any comments on this?
prioritize them, decide what you can live with, what you cannot, what would make the job more comfortable or less comfortable and then decide. No one is holding you there. My last job had perfect for everything except pay, friendliness and internet access. One would think it was a better job but the friendliness issue was a major one since the boss was abusive, no one trusted anyone, micromanaged, underpaid, everyone was treated as if they were less important than the computers or the mahogany furniture -- which was probably true. I decided to leave, and I left. :)
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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1. It is required to make Texas compatible with life 2. yes 3. Decent system with as many monitors as you can cram on the desk. LCD or nothing. 4. no 5. All I need is CP and Microsoft sites really. This is work. 6. I do want to stay alive 7. More room for more monitors :) 8. yeah 9. See #5 10. I've got two adoring fur covered critters and the best little boy in the world to keep me company 11. commute under one minute 12. Work from home.
Using the GridView is like trying to explain to someone else how to move a third person's hands in order to tie your shoelaces for you. -Chris Maunder
More monitors is always a good thing. I have two 19's right now and I am trying to get either a 21 inch to add or a third 19. The quality of one monitor has to be good, the other two don't matter. I now will not work for a company unless I have at least two monitors. My 2cents worth!
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More monitors is always a good thing. I have two 19's right now and I am trying to get either a 21 inch to add or a third 19. The quality of one monitor has to be good, the other two don't matter. I now will not work for a company unless I have at least two monitors. My 2cents worth!
_____________________________________________________________________ Our developers never release code. Rather, it tends to escape, pillaging the countryside all around. The Enlightenment Project (paraphrased comment) Visit Me at GISDevCafe
Yeah I was just upgraded to 3 21" LCD panels. 2 of them are at 1600x1200 the middle one is 1200x1600 so I can fit more lines of code on the monitor at one time. It works really well.
Using the GridView is like trying to explain to someone else how to move a third person's hands in order to tie your shoelaces for you. -Chris Maunder
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Hi, How important is the working atmosphere at your work place to you? Does these factors decide whether you quit your job or not? 1. Good air conditioning 2. Comfortable chairs and desk 3. PC with good configuration 4. Availability of good food at work or nearby. 5. Access to internet without restrictions 6. Hygienic surroundings. 7. Spacious work place 8. Descent pay 9. Opportunity to learn new technology related to work 10.Friendly colleagues I feel all the above would be close to a perfect job. But unfortunately I do not have most them at my work place. Any comments on this? Regards, Blumen
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According to your criteria, I've got the perfect job. (But then, I'm in Sales and Marketing)
our deepest sympathies on that - not on the perfect job, but the s&m bit..:sigh:
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our deepest sympathies on that - not on the perfect job, but the s&m bit..:sigh:
You get my vote for best reply of the day. :laugh:
Software Zen:
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Hi, How important is the working atmosphere at your work place to you? Does these factors decide whether you quit your job or not? 1. Good air conditioning 2. Comfortable chairs and desk 3. PC with good configuration 4. Availability of good food at work or nearby. 5. Access to internet without restrictions 6. Hygienic surroundings. 7. Spacious work place 8. Descent pay 9. Opportunity to learn new technology related to work 10.Friendly colleagues I feel all the above would be close to a perfect job. But unfortunately I do not have most them at my work place. Any comments on this? Regards, Blumen
I have all but #9.
"A good athlete is the result of a good and worthy opponent." - David Crow
"To have a respect for ourselves guides our morals; to have deference for others governs our manners." - Laurence Sterne
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Hi, How important is the working atmosphere at your work place to you? Does these factors decide whether you quit your job or not? 1. Good air conditioning 2. Comfortable chairs and desk 3. PC with good configuration 4. Availability of good food at work or nearby. 5. Access to internet without restrictions 6. Hygienic surroundings. 7. Spacious work place 8. Descent pay 9. Opportunity to learn new technology related to work 10.Friendly colleagues I feel all the above would be close to a perfect job. But unfortunately I do not have most them at my work place. Any comments on this? Regards, Blumen
Atmospheric pressure of sightly less than 1bar. Approximate composition 80% nitrogen, 20% oxygen.
-- You have to explain to them [VB coders] what you mean by "typed". their first response is likely to be something like, "Of course my code is typed. Do you think i magically project it onto the screen with the power of my mind?" --- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
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Hi, How important is the working atmosphere at your work place to you? Does these factors decide whether you quit your job or not? 1. Good air conditioning 2. Comfortable chairs and desk 3. PC with good configuration 4. Availability of good food at work or nearby. 5. Access to internet without restrictions 6. Hygienic surroundings. 7. Spacious work place 8. Descent pay 9. Opportunity to learn new technology related to work 10.Friendly colleagues I feel all the above would be close to a perfect job. But unfortunately I do not have most them at my work place. Any comments on this? Regards, Blumen
1. Important, but not critical. You can always bring your own fan. 2. I think this is essential for coders. 3. Required. I just had to pull tooth and nail to get my RAM upgraded, and I work for a computer manufacturing company. Go figure. 4. Could care less. I live two miles from home and usually go home for lunch. We do have an onsite cafeteria that is pretty good. I get scrambled eggs with fresh veggies each morning. 5. I used to work for a company that 'selectivly' watched some people and not others. I got busted for going to CNN. If I want to take 10 minutes to read the news, so what? So I find this important. 6. I don't need it ultra-clean but obviously bad hygeine can lead to sickness. My boss chews tobacco which seem a bit unhygeinic to me, but it's allowed. 7. If you work with multiple towers, required. I hate kicking towers each time I move my chair. 8. You have to pay the bills. However, if you love what you do, you can work for less and get better satisfaction. 9. We don't really have that here that I know of but I can get reimbursed for training, classes etc which is nice. 10. I don't have friends at work because of the age difference, but no one is really unfriendly. I usually sit with my headphones on most of the day. Someone mentioned a quiet workplace which I have to say is important. I work in a line of cubicles with soccer moms who need to discuss American Idol, Gray's Anatomy, and their kids at least 2 hours a day.
__________________ Bob is my homeboy.
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11. Admin rights on your system
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001I wouldn't work any other way. 5. :)
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Hi, How important is the working atmosphere at your work place to you? Does these factors decide whether you quit your job or not? 1. Good air conditioning 2. Comfortable chairs and desk 3. PC with good configuration 4. Availability of good food at work or nearby. 5. Access to internet without restrictions 6. Hygienic surroundings. 7. Spacious work place 8. Descent pay 9. Opportunity to learn new technology related to work 10.Friendly colleagues I feel all the above would be close to a perfect job. But unfortunately I do not have most them at my work place. Any comments on this? Regards, Blumen
Surely only people like parachutists, skiers and bobsleigh teams need "descent pay"?
Phil
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Hi, How important is the working atmosphere at your work place to you? Does these factors decide whether you quit your job or not? 1. Good air conditioning 2. Comfortable chairs and desk 3. PC with good configuration 4. Availability of good food at work or nearby. 5. Access to internet without restrictions 6. Hygienic surroundings. 7. Spacious work place 8. Descent pay 9. Opportunity to learn new technology related to work 10.Friendly colleagues I feel all the above would be close to a perfect job. But unfortunately I do not have most them at my work place. Any comments on this? Regards, Blumen
blumenhause wrote:
1. Good air conditioning
Wind gusting at 40 mph with 50C temperatures.
blumenhause wrote:
2. Comfortable chairs and desk
Real men find rocks comfortable enough.
blumenhause wrote:
3. PC with good configuration
We don't need no stinkin' computers.
blumenhause wrote:
4. Availability of good food at work or nearby.
Plentiful game; if I can stun it with a rock, I can cook it in daylight under a broken shard of beer bottle.
blumenhause wrote:
5. Access to internet without restrictions
I'm the admin; I'll download anything I want.
blumenhause wrote:
6. Hygienic surroundings.
Absolutely! Nothing can live here, even bacteria.
blumenhause wrote:
7. Spacious work place
Is 200 to 500 miles of open desert spacious enough for you?
blumenhause wrote:
8. Descent pay
Not sure what descent pay is, but we get to keep whatever we find if we have to descend into an old mine shaft. For regular work, though, we get paid decent by local standards.
blumenhause wrote:
9. Opportunity to learn new technology related to work
I'm always learning something new, though the technology used in this business is at least twenty years old.
blumenhause wrote:
10.Friendly colleagues
They're friendly enough after I get a few beers in them, but I don't sit with my back to a door on Monday mornings...
"A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"
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11. Admin rights on your system
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
11. Admin rights on your system
You are definitely sore about that, aren't you? :)
Regards, Nish
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Hi, How important is the working atmosphere at your work place to you? Does these factors decide whether you quit your job or not? 1. Good air conditioning 2. Comfortable chairs and desk 3. PC with good configuration 4. Availability of good food at work or nearby. 5. Access to internet without restrictions 6. Hygienic surroundings. 7. Spacious work place 8. Descent pay 9. Opportunity to learn new technology related to work 10.Friendly colleagues I feel all the above would be close to a perfect job. But unfortunately I do not have most them at my work place. Any comments on this? Regards, Blumen
Right now, I have: 4. Availability of good food at work or nearby. 10.Friendly colleagues Here's the rest: 1. Good air conditioning (no, it's usually freezing one minute, hot the next) 2. Comfortable chairs and desk (no, 1942 surplus) 3. PC with good configuration (no, we're not admins on our own machines) 5. Access to internet without restrictions (no, severely locked down) 6. Hygienic surroundings. (they try to keep it clean but the "animals" here do their best to task the cleaning staff). 7. Spacious work place (average at best) 8. Descent pay (Less than I've made elsewhere) 9. Opportunity to learn new technology related to work
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[edit]This is what I think things should be like, not necessarily what my workplace is like[/edit] 1. Yes 2. Yes 3. Yes 4. If you mean food at the office, yes. If you mean company policies allowing food to be consumed at the desk, NO! 5. Without restrictions? Surely pr0n and warez sites should be blocked? 6. Yes 7. Yes 8. Yes! 9. Yes 10. Yes
blumenhause wrote:
But unfortunately I do not have most them at my work place. Any comments on this?
I think this[^] will be of some help. :) -- modified at 7:15 Wednesday 9th May, 2007
Cheers, Vıkram.
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Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:
5. Without restrictions? Surely pr0n and warez sites should be blocked?
Not really. The employees at my workplace have enough professionalism to keep this kind of thing at home. Web site visits are recorded, but logs are never looked at unless there is a good reason for doing so... Of course, this is a small company (~50 employees) and much of our work requires unfettered access to the internet for research purposes.
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11. Admin rights on your system
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
11. Admin rights on your system
this is a real sore point with you at the moment isn't it?! :)
-- The Obliterator
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12. Convenient workout facilities. Ideally (like where I work), in the building itself.
Software Zen:
delete this;
I guess I lucked out. When my company's DoD contract expired last year (they actually missed the paperwork deadline by 2 months :wtf:) I *decided* to find another job. I wound up getting a job that allows me to work from home 2 days a week, got me an MSDN subscription and scores a yes on all 10 items listed. I can even say "yes" to the proposed item 11 (beer on tap) on the days I work from home. :)