So did anyone else see that ABC God debate thing?
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This is why I believe the human race is doomed.
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The entire paradox of using scientific reasoning to prove god's existence leaves my head spinning. If scientific methodology can be used, or is necessary, to prove the existence of God, does that validate God? Or Science?
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Quote: The entire paradox of using scientific reasoning to prove god's existence leaves my head spinning. Me too, science is supposed to apply to real things, not imaginary ones.
There is no heaven, there is no hell, except here on Earth. - Anton LaVey
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Yeah, it seems dumb to me, too. Those sort of shows are really just a way for both sides to preach to the converted. Were that not so, there would be an actual clear winner ( and even that would prove nothing )
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Yeah, who needs science? We have the Bible which contains all the knowledge and explanations that we need. People wanting to understand the universe is because of the fall of man. What ever happened to simply having faith and obeying God? :rolleyes:
There is no heaven, there is no hell, except here on Earth. - Anton LaVey
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Joergen Sigvardsson wrote:
This is why I believe the human race is doomed.
Yeah, no kidding. It was almost painful watching the religious side contain their impulses to cover their ears and yell, "LALALALALALA". :)
- Your choice of lifestyle is an abomination. - But I've been this way since I was a child. - The scriptures say it is of the Devil! - But who am I hurting by being this way? - It's EVIL! You must renounce this behavior! - What if it's NATURAL? - There's no proof of that! BEING LEFT HANDED IN THE MIDDLE AGES.
Have you ever seen Ken(t?) Hovind giving lectures on creation and why evolution is false? Now there's a big fuckin "lalalalalalalalaalala!!". I bet he has secret groupies.
-- Secreted by the Comedy Bee
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Given half a chance, the religious people would have us all living in the dark ages again.
There is no heaven, there is no hell, except here on Earth. - Anton LaVey
Yes, we must resist the junkies! (Religion must be some kind of drug for the mind - I don't have a better explanation)
-- Painstakingly Drawn Before a Live Audience
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It proves that god created science so man would have a mechanism for proving god exists and that god created science. Or something like that.
What I really want to know is: what or who created god? Did god create himself?
-- Please rise for the Futurama theme song
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Yeah, who needs science? We have the Bible which contains all the knowledge and explanations that we need. People wanting to understand the universe is because of the fall of man. What ever happened to simply having faith and obeying God? :rolleyes:
There is no heaven, there is no hell, except here on Earth. - Anton LaVey
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What ever happened to simply having faith and obeying God?
The apple was tastier. :)
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What I really want to know is: what or who created god? Did god create himself?
-- Please rise for the Futurama theme song
Joergen Sigvardsson wrote:
What I really want to know is: what or who created god?
Bender and Fry. See, they were drunk one night and Bender had an idea....
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Quote: The entire paradox of using scientific reasoning to prove god's existence leaves my head spinning. Me too, science is supposed to apply to real things, not imaginary ones.
There is no heaven, there is no hell, except here on Earth. - Anton LaVey
Which is why (no matter what some boneheaded theist says) science and theism is irreconcilable. Science is a tool to describe the natural world using natural explanations, while [pan]theism is an attempt to describe the natural world using supernatural explanations. The latter is quite ludicrous because it implies that you - a natural being - can say yea or nay about things outside the natural universe. Not caring about this is just asking for an endless supply of cans of worms... I bet it is possible to put forth a scientific explanation for the reason why some people cling on to supernaturalism.
-- Mr. Bender's Wardrobe by ROBOTANY 500
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Joergen Sigvardsson wrote:
What I really want to know is: what or who created god?
Bender and Fry. See, they were drunk one night and Bender had an idea....
Heh. I bet the idea involved alcohol, prostitutes and gambling, but got out of hand...
-- The Show That Watches Back
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Which is why (no matter what some boneheaded theist says) science and theism is irreconcilable. Science is a tool to describe the natural world using natural explanations, while [pan]theism is an attempt to describe the natural world using supernatural explanations. The latter is quite ludicrous because it implies that you - a natural being - can say yea or nay about things outside the natural universe. Not caring about this is just asking for an endless supply of cans of worms... I bet it is possible to put forth a scientific explanation for the reason why some people cling on to supernaturalism.
-- Mr. Bender's Wardrobe by ROBOTANY 500
I think that the reason that some people follow religions is to get a feeling of superiority (i.e. I am better than you because I have special knowledge from God), like the reason people go to political extremism or conspiracy theories.
There is no heaven, there is no hell, except here on Earth. - Anton LaVey
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Yes, we must resist the junkies! (Religion must be some kind of drug for the mind - I don't have a better explanation)
-- Painstakingly Drawn Before a Live Audience
I agree with you about religion is like a drug. Listen to this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkf7DpnnNck&mode=related&search= :laugh:
There is no heaven, there is no hell, except here on Earth. - Anton LaVey
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I think that the reason that some people follow religions is to get a feeling of superiority (i.e. I am better than you because I have special knowledge from God), like the reason people go to political extremism or conspiracy theories.
There is no heaven, there is no hell, except here on Earth. - Anton LaVey
Yes, as if the common herd were worth conspiring against! :laugh: Think that was arrogant enough? :rolleyes:
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Yes, as if the common herd were worth conspiring against! :laugh: Think that was arrogant enough? :rolleyes:
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What I really want to know is: what or who created god? Did god create himself?
-- Please rise for the Futurama theme song
Joergen Sigvardsson wrote:
what or who created god? Did god create himself?
That is a silly argument also, however, because it is just as logical that god could be self created, or simply eternal, as it is that the universe could be. Given our current understanding, either possibility is equally implausible. The problem is fundamentally did intelligence create the universe or did the universe create intelligence?
Modern liberalism has never achieved anything other than giving Secularists something to feel morally superior about
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Which is why (no matter what some boneheaded theist says) science and theism is irreconcilable. Science is a tool to describe the natural world using natural explanations, while [pan]theism is an attempt to describe the natural world using supernatural explanations. The latter is quite ludicrous because it implies that you - a natural being - can say yea or nay about things outside the natural universe. Not caring about this is just asking for an endless supply of cans of worms... I bet it is possible to put forth a scientific explanation for the reason why some people cling on to supernaturalism.
-- Mr. Bender's Wardrobe by ROBOTANY 500
Are you really that comfortable with having one, and only one algorithm for thinking about the universe?
Modern liberalism has never achieved anything other than giving Secularists something to feel morally superior about
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What ever happened to simply having faith and obeying God?
The apple was tastier. :)
-- This episode performed entirely by sock puppets
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Yes, we must resist the junkies! (Religion must be some kind of drug for the mind - I don't have a better explanation)
-- Painstakingly Drawn Before a Live Audience
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Given half a chance, the religious people would have us all living in the dark ages again.
There is no heaven, there is no hell, except here on Earth. - Anton LaVey
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I agree with you about religion is like a drug. Listen to this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkf7DpnnNck&mode=related&search= :laugh:
There is no heaven, there is no hell, except here on Earth. - Anton LaVey
Hehe.. speaking in tongues. :-D I've seen saner crack heads than them. :-D