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So did anyone else see that ABC God debate thing?

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  • L Lost User

    You might remember Kirk & Ray from the infamous banana video: Bananas: The Atheist's Nightmare[^] Well, they're back! No, I didn't see it either, but thanks to the miracle of the internet, it's available to everyone. No more debates will ever be required on this subject: case closed![^] My first favourite part was where Kirk proved God scientifically (One hundred percent!) by spending five minutes telling the audience his personal conversion story (it's like part five or something). My second favourite part was where the atheist guy screws up which law of thermodynamics is which. Sigh. Way to go, dude. I should also mention I skipped over large portions of the girl talking because her speaking voice was like OMG FINGERNAILS ON CHALKBOARD. Be warned! (Edit: Oh, this is only part one. Part two airs today. Yay! Cliffhangers!)

    - F "You are really weird." - Kyle, age 16

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    Ever since ABC showed itself to be a corporate elitist POS I don't watch it. http://www.freemarketnews.com/WorldNews.asp?nid=40897[^]


    A cynic is a man who, when he smells flowers, looks around for a coffin.
    -H.L. Mencken

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      You might remember Kirk & Ray from the infamous banana video: Bananas: The Atheist's Nightmare[^] Well, they're back! No, I didn't see it either, but thanks to the miracle of the internet, it's available to everyone. No more debates will ever be required on this subject: case closed![^] My first favourite part was where Kirk proved God scientifically (One hundred percent!) by spending five minutes telling the audience his personal conversion story (it's like part five or something). My second favourite part was where the atheist guy screws up which law of thermodynamics is which. Sigh. Way to go, dude. I should also mention I skipped over large portions of the girl talking because her speaking voice was like OMG FINGERNAILS ON CHALKBOARD. Be warned! (Edit: Oh, this is only part one. Part two airs today. Yay! Cliffhangers!)

      - F "You are really weird." - Kyle, age 16

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      This is why I believe the human race is doomed.

      -- Raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

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        This is why I believe the human race is doomed.

        -- Raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

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        Joergen Sigvardsson wrote:

        This is why I believe the human race is doomed.

        Yeah, no kidding. It was almost painful watching the religious side contain their impulses to cover their ears and yell, "LALALALALALA". :)


        - Your choice of lifestyle is an abomination. - But I've been this way since I was a child. - The scriptures say it is of the Devil! - But who am I hurting by being this way? - It's EVIL! You must renounce this behavior! - What if it's NATURAL? - There's no proof of that! BEING LEFT HANDED IN THE MIDDLE AGES.

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        • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

          This is why I believe the human race is doomed.

          -- Raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

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          Given half a chance, the religious people would have us all living in the dark ages again.

          There is no heaven, there is no hell, except here on Earth. - Anton LaVey

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          • S Stan Shannon

            The entire paradox of using scientific reasoning to prove god's existence leaves my head spinning. If scientific methodology can be used, or is necessary, to prove the existence of God, does that validate God? Or Science?

            Modern liberalism has never achieved anything other than giving Secularists something to feel morally superior about

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            Quote: The entire paradox of using scientific reasoning to prove god's existence leaves my head spinning. Me too, science is supposed to apply to real things, not imaginary ones.

            There is no heaven, there is no hell, except here on Earth. - Anton LaVey

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            • C Christian Graus

              Yeah, it seems dumb to me, too. Those sort of shows are really just a way for both sides to preach to the converted. Were that not so, there would be an actual clear winner ( and even that would prove nothing )

              Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )

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              Yeah, who needs science? We have the Bible which contains all the knowledge and explanations that we need. People wanting to understand the universe is because of the fall of man. What ever happened to simply having faith and obeying God? :rolleyes:

              There is no heaven, there is no hell, except here on Earth. - Anton LaVey

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                Joergen Sigvardsson wrote:

                This is why I believe the human race is doomed.

                Yeah, no kidding. It was almost painful watching the religious side contain their impulses to cover their ears and yell, "LALALALALALA". :)


                - Your choice of lifestyle is an abomination. - But I've been this way since I was a child. - The scriptures say it is of the Devil! - But who am I hurting by being this way? - It's EVIL! You must renounce this behavior! - What if it's NATURAL? - There's no proof of that! BEING LEFT HANDED IN THE MIDDLE AGES.

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                Have you ever seen Ken(t?) Hovind giving lectures on creation and why evolution is false? Now there's a big fuckin "lalalalalalalalaalala!!". I bet he has secret groupies.

                -- Secreted by the Comedy Bee

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                • L Lost User

                  Given half a chance, the religious people would have us all living in the dark ages again.

                  There is no heaven, there is no hell, except here on Earth. - Anton LaVey

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                  Yes, we must resist the junkies! (Religion must be some kind of drug for the mind - I don't have a better explanation)

                  -- Painstakingly Drawn Before a Live Audience

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                  • E Ed Gadziemski

                    It proves that god created science so man would have a mechanism for proving god exists and that god created science. Or something like that.

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                    What I really want to know is: what or who created god? Did god create himself?

                    -- Please rise for the Futurama theme song

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                    • L Lost User

                      Yeah, who needs science? We have the Bible which contains all the knowledge and explanations that we need. People wanting to understand the universe is because of the fall of man. What ever happened to simply having faith and obeying God? :rolleyes:

                      There is no heaven, there is no hell, except here on Earth. - Anton LaVey

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                      What ever happened to simply having faith and obeying God?

                      The apple was tastier. :)

                      -- This episode performed entirely by sock puppets

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                        What I really want to know is: what or who created god? Did god create himself?

                        -- Please rise for the Futurama theme song

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                        Joergen Sigvardsson wrote:

                        What I really want to know is: what or who created god?

                        Bender and Fry. See, they were drunk one night and Bender had an idea....

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                          Quote: The entire paradox of using scientific reasoning to prove god's existence leaves my head spinning. Me too, science is supposed to apply to real things, not imaginary ones.

                          There is no heaven, there is no hell, except here on Earth. - Anton LaVey

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                          Which is why (no matter what some boneheaded theist says) science and theism is irreconcilable. Science is a tool to describe the natural world using natural explanations, while [pan]theism is an attempt to describe the natural world using supernatural explanations. The latter is quite ludicrous because it implies that you - a natural being - can say yea or nay about things outside the natural universe. Not caring about this is just asking for an endless supply of cans of worms... I bet it is possible to put forth a scientific explanation for the reason why some people cling on to supernaturalism.

                          -- Mr. Bender's Wardrobe by ROBOTANY 500

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                          • E Ed Gadziemski

                            Joergen Sigvardsson wrote:

                            What I really want to know is: what or who created god?

                            Bender and Fry. See, they were drunk one night and Bender had an idea....

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                            Heh. I bet the idea involved alcohol, prostitutes and gambling, but got out of hand...

                            -- The Show That Watches Back

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                              Which is why (no matter what some boneheaded theist says) science and theism is irreconcilable. Science is a tool to describe the natural world using natural explanations, while [pan]theism is an attempt to describe the natural world using supernatural explanations. The latter is quite ludicrous because it implies that you - a natural being - can say yea or nay about things outside the natural universe. Not caring about this is just asking for an endless supply of cans of worms... I bet it is possible to put forth a scientific explanation for the reason why some people cling on to supernaturalism.

                              -- Mr. Bender's Wardrobe by ROBOTANY 500

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                              I think that the reason that some people follow religions is to get a feeling of superiority (i.e. I am better than you because I have special knowledge from God), like the reason people go to political extremism or conspiracy theories.

                              There is no heaven, there is no hell, except here on Earth. - Anton LaVey

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                              • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

                                Yes, we must resist the junkies! (Religion must be some kind of drug for the mind - I don't have a better explanation)

                                -- Painstakingly Drawn Before a Live Audience

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                                I agree with you about religion is like a drug. Listen to this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkf7DpnnNck&mode=related&search= :laugh:

                                There is no heaven, there is no hell, except here on Earth. - Anton LaVey

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                                  I think that the reason that some people follow religions is to get a feeling of superiority (i.e. I am better than you because I have special knowledge from God), like the reason people go to political extremism or conspiracy theories.

                                  There is no heaven, there is no hell, except here on Earth. - Anton LaVey

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                                  Yes, as if the common herd were worth conspiring against! :laugh: Think that was arrogant enough? :rolleyes:

                                  The tigress is here :-D

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                                    Yes, as if the common herd were worth conspiring against! :laugh: Think that was arrogant enough? :rolleyes:

                                    The tigress is here :-D

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                                    lol?

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                                    • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

                                      What I really want to know is: what or who created god? Did god create himself?

                                      -- Please rise for the Futurama theme song

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                                      Joergen Sigvardsson wrote:

                                      what or who created god? Did god create himself?

                                      That is a silly argument also, however, because it is just as logical that god could be self created, or simply eternal, as it is that the universe could be. Given our current understanding, either possibility is equally implausible. The problem is fundamentally did intelligence create the universe or did the universe create intelligence?

                                      Modern liberalism has never achieved anything other than giving Secularists something to feel morally superior about

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                                        Which is why (no matter what some boneheaded theist says) science and theism is irreconcilable. Science is a tool to describe the natural world using natural explanations, while [pan]theism is an attempt to describe the natural world using supernatural explanations. The latter is quite ludicrous because it implies that you - a natural being - can say yea or nay about things outside the natural universe. Not caring about this is just asking for an endless supply of cans of worms... I bet it is possible to put forth a scientific explanation for the reason why some people cling on to supernaturalism.

                                        -- Mr. Bender's Wardrobe by ROBOTANY 500

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                                        Stan Shannon
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                                        Are you really that comfortable with having one, and only one algorithm for thinking about the universe?

                                        Modern liberalism has never achieved anything other than giving Secularists something to feel morally superior about

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                                          What ever happened to simply having faith and obeying God?

                                          The apple was tastier. :)

                                          -- This episode performed entirely by sock puppets

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                                          Joergen Sigvardsson wrote:

                                          The apple was tastier.

                                          Baked with brown sugar and cinnamon? Mmmm. :cool:

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