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  • Z zoid

    I do that all the time, I trust my co-workers. I guess it depends on where you work though.

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    Marcus J Smith
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    zoid ! wrote:

    I do that all the time, I trust my co-workers. I guess it depends on where you work though.

    Ive heard that argument before and that is just ignorant. There are many people that I trust that I wouldnt give the opportunity to steal from me, it just takes a second to take your wallet, lock your PC, lock up your purse, etc...


    CleaKO

    "Now, a man would have opened both gates, driven through and not bothered to close either gate." - Marc Clifton (The Lounge)

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    • J JimmyRopes

      Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:

      I'm pissed

      My first impression when I read the subject was that you had too many :beer: :beer: :beer: As it turns out you need to get a few :beer: :beer: :beer: Life is short. :sigh: Don't sweat the petty things and don't pet the sweaty things. :-D - George Carlin

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      Marcus J Smith
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      JimmyRopes wrote:

      Life is short.

      Well I would have to disagree with you on this. When you force a logoff there may be unsaved information that is lost and if by chance you managed to not save work for 3 hours and then locked the PC and someone forced you off, guess what?


      CleaKO

      "Now, a man would have opened both gates, driven through and not bothered to close either gate." - Marc Clifton (The Lounge)

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        JimmyRopes wrote:

        Life is short.

        Well I would have to disagree with you on this. When you force a logoff there may be unsaved information that is lost and if by chance you managed to not save work for 3 hours and then locked the PC and someone forced you off, guess what?


        CleaKO

        "Now, a man would have opened both gates, driven through and not bothered to close either gate." - Marc Clifton (The Lounge)

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        JimmyRopes
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        CleaKO wrote:

        if by chance you managed to not save work for 3 hours and then locked the PC and someone forced you off, guess what?

        Step away without saving 3 hours work? :rolleyes: That is just asking for problems. :doh: I don't trust Windows to stay up for 3 hours at a time! X| An exaggeration of course, but, really, you should learn to save your work more often. :rolleyes: It will save you a lot of grief. :sigh:

        Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
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          zoid ! wrote:

          I do that all the time, I trust my co-workers. I guess it depends on where you work though.

          Ive heard that argument before and that is just ignorant. There are many people that I trust that I wouldnt give the opportunity to steal from me, it just takes a second to take your wallet, lock your PC, lock up your purse, etc...


          CleaKO

          "Now, a man would have opened both gates, driven through and not bothered to close either gate." - Marc Clifton (The Lounge)

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          CleaKO wrote:

          There are many people that I trust that I wouldnt give the opportunity to steal from me

          Do you not see the contradiction in your statement? Either you trust them to not steal from you, or you don't. Maybe you trust them in some ways, but you definitely don't trust them completely. This is fine, and depending on the workplace / people that surround you, this is sometimes necessary. (and unfortunate). But, I have to disagree with you. If you really do trust the people you are with, I don't think that it is ignorant to not think that they will rob you.

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            It seems to me that all you would have to do is right click on the desktop and change the primary monitor and or the extended toolbar options.


            CleaKO

            "Now, a man would have opened both gates, driven through and not bothered to close either gate." - Marc Clifton (The Lounge)

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            Dan Neely
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            maybe. I'm not familiar with citrix from that end so it might not be possible. otoh it might be that none of the support staff are aware of it.

            -- You have to explain to them [VB coders] what you mean by "typed". their first response is likely to be something like, "Of course my code is typed. Do you think i magically project it onto the screen with the power of my mind?" --- John Simmons / outlaw programmer

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              Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:

              a knowledge transfer session.

              :confused: Vulcan mind meld?

              "I'm a great believer in luck, and I find the harder I work the more I have of it." - Thomas Jefferson

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              Vikram A Punathambekar
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              Not sure if you were kidding or genuinely confused. :) If it's the latter, I'm transitioning my knowledge to my boss and replacements.

              Cheers, Vıkram.


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                Last time i walked away from my desk without locking it, i ended buying lunch for my entire team....

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                NormDroid
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                Easy get a lock on the Dev Roomm, key pad entry of the likes.

                .net is a box of never ending treasures, every day I get find another gem.

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                • V Vikram A Punathambekar

                  Not sure if you were kidding or genuinely confused. :) If it's the latter, I'm transitioning my knowledge to my boss and replacements.

                  Cheers, Vıkram.


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                  Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:

                  Not sure if you were kidding or genuinely confused.

                  The latter

                  Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:

                  I'm transitioning my knowledge to my boss and replacements.

                  OK... I didn't know such things had formal names.

                  "I'm a great believer in luck, and I find the harder I work the more I have of it." - Thomas Jefferson

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                  • D David Crow

                    Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                    I read a blog yesterday where a MSFT blogger mentioned how a David Crow...

                    ...the Canadian. http://davidcrow.ca/[^]


                    "A good athlete is the result of a good and worthy opponent." - David Crow

                    "To have a respect for ourselves guides our morals; to have deference for others governs our manners." - Laurence Sterne

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                    Nish Nishant
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                    DavidCrow wrote:

                    ...the Canadian. http://davidcrow.ca/\[^\]

                    Okay thanks. So why don't you have a web site then? Maybe davidcrow.com (unless it's taken). :-)

                    Regards, Nish


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                      CleaKO wrote:

                      There are many people that I trust that I wouldnt give the opportunity to steal from me

                      Do you not see the contradiction in your statement? Either you trust them to not steal from you, or you don't. Maybe you trust them in some ways, but you definitely don't trust them completely. This is fine, and depending on the workplace / people that surround you, this is sometimes necessary. (and unfortunate). But, I have to disagree with you. If you really do trust the people you are with, I don't think that it is ignorant to not think that they will rob you.

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                      zoid ! wrote:

                      Do you not see the contradiction in your statement? Either you trust them to not steal from you, or you don't. Maybe you trust them in some ways, but you definitely don't trust them completely. This is fine, and depending on the workplace / people that surround you, this is sometimes necessary. (and unfortunate). But, I have to disagree with you. If you really do trust the people you are with, I don't think that it is ignorant to not think that they will rob you.

                      Possibly but let me put it this way. If I had $1 million and I laid it on my desk in the open where everyone could see it and they were all my best friends in the world would the temptation possibly be too much for some people?


                      CleaKO

                      "Now, a man would have opened both gates, driven through and not bothered to close either gate." - Marc Clifton (The Lounge)

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                        maybe. I'm not familiar with citrix from that end so it might not be possible. otoh it might be that none of the support staff are aware of it.

                        -- You have to explain to them [VB coders] what you mean by "typed". their first response is likely to be something like, "Of course my code is typed. Do you think i magically project it onto the screen with the power of my mind?" --- John Simmons / outlaw programmer

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                        dan neely wrote:

                        maybe. I'm not familiar with citrix from that end so it might not be possible. otoh it might be that none of the support staff are aware of it.

                        I use VPN with Remote Desktop so Im unsure of how it would work with Citrix but I do know that things I leave on my secondary monitor are always pulled over to my primary monitor when I logon from home.


                        CleaKO

                        "Now, a man would have opened both gates, driven through and not bothered to close either gate." - Marc Clifton (The Lounge)

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                          DavidCrow wrote:

                          ...the Canadian. http://davidcrow.ca/\[^\]

                          Okay thanks. So why don't you have a web site then? Maybe davidcrow.com (unless it's taken). :-)

                          Regards, Nish


                          Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                          My latest book : C++/CLI in Action / Amazon.com link

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                          Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                          So why don't you have a web site then?

                          I've never had the need for one.


                          "A good athlete is the result of a good and worthy opponent." - David Crow

                          "To have a respect for ourselves guides our morals; to have deference for others governs our manners." - Laurence Sterne

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                            dan neely wrote:

                            maybe. I'm not familiar with citrix from that end so it might not be possible. otoh it might be that none of the support staff are aware of it.

                            I use VPN with Remote Desktop so Im unsure of how it would work with Citrix but I do know that things I leave on my secondary monitor are always pulled over to my primary monitor when I logon from home.


                            CleaKO

                            "Now, a man would have opened both gates, driven through and not bothered to close either gate." - Marc Clifton (The Lounge)

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                            Dan Neely
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                            Ctrix doesn't provide any access to the 2nd monitor at all. That much I've been told over the phone.

                            -- You have to explain to them [VB coders] what you mean by "typed". their first response is likely to be something like, "Of course my code is typed. Do you think i magically project it onto the screen with the power of my mind?" --- John Simmons / outlaw programmer

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                              zoid ! wrote:

                              Do you not see the contradiction in your statement? Either you trust them to not steal from you, or you don't. Maybe you trust them in some ways, but you definitely don't trust them completely. This is fine, and depending on the workplace / people that surround you, this is sometimes necessary. (and unfortunate). But, I have to disagree with you. If you really do trust the people you are with, I don't think that it is ignorant to not think that they will rob you.

                              Possibly but let me put it this way. If I had $1 million and I laid it on my desk in the open where everyone could see it and they were all my best friends in the world would the temptation possibly be too much for some people?


                              CleaKO

                              "Now, a man would have opened both gates, driven through and not bothered to close either gate." - Marc Clifton (The Lounge)

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                              I was going to write a long complicated reply, but hopefully this example will be easier: What if you were a multi-millionaire and your friends were millionaires too? Then would you trust them? What can they gain / potentially lose (getting caught) by taking the money? I guess when I said "trust people" I should have said "trust people within a given environment". If you set the reward level too high, then even "good" people will do "bad" things.

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                                dan neely wrote:

                                maybe. I'm not familiar with citrix from that end so it might not be possible. otoh it might be that none of the support staff are aware of it.

                                I use VPN with Remote Desktop so Im unsure of how it would work with Citrix but I do know that things I leave on my secondary monitor are always pulled over to my primary monitor when I logon from home.


                                CleaKO

                                "Now, a man would have opened both gates, driven through and not bothered to close either gate." - Marc Clifton (The Lounge)

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                                Jerry Hammond
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                                Try changing the displaying settings through Remote Desktop. If I recall correctly, you can not.

                                "We are all repositories for genetically-encoded information that we're all spreading back and forth amongst each other, all the time. We're just lousy with information." - Neal Stephenson

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                                  I was going to write a long complicated reply, but hopefully this example will be easier: What if you were a multi-millionaire and your friends were millionaires too? Then would you trust them? What can they gain / potentially lose (getting caught) by taking the money? I guess when I said "trust people" I should have said "trust people within a given environment". If you set the reward level too high, then even "good" people will do "bad" things.

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                                  Marcus J Smith
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                                  zoid ! wrote:

                                  If you set the reward level too high, then even "good" people will do "bad" things.

                                  Exactly my point...:jig: ;)


                                  CleaKO

                                  "Now, a man would have opened both gates, driven through and not bothered to close either gate." - Marc Clifton (The Lounge)

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                                  • V Vikram A Punathambekar

                                    So my manager and I step out of our seats for a knowledge transfer session. A few minutes later, he sees (our conference rooms have glass doors and walls) a couple of people hanging around his PC and goes to investigate. Turns out they are from helpdesk and wanted to check if people have installed some patches, so they logged him off forcibly. And they had done the same thing to my machine. :wtf: They could have gone to the other 100 people in the same floor and got on with their checking, and then come back to see if the people not at their desks were really on leave or simply stepped out for a meeting or tea. No, they just had to log off. X| :mad:

                                    Cheers, Vıkram.


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                                    Richard Jones
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                                    I'm constantly annoyed when I have to install software on someone's pc, and they've gone out for the day, leaving 15 modified documents open! Do I save them? Where do I save them to? I agree, I could have asked if you were in first. Unless it was an emergency like a virus.

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