Mac vs. PC ads
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There's a utility out there that someone wrote to decrapify your pc[^]. Walt Mossberg wrote about it here.[^].
Mike Poz
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Does anyone else find these commercials as ridculous as I do? I just saw the lastest one where PC is bloated with free software. How is this Microsoft's fault? The PC manfactures are the ones who fill up the systems with crap. Microsoft has also been forced to include other software.
only two letters away from being an asset
Firstly, I am not an Apple/Mac fan, but I have to tip my hat off to the Apple Marketing department. With the iPod (yes, *cough*, *looks away* I have one), and now these ads against PC's. They are minimilistic, probably very inexpensive, but do a great job at what I assume is their intention -- Make people think about their product. And voila...now a bunch of computer programmers are discussing them in a forum. MISSION ACCOMPLISHED. And yes, they do like to stab at microsoft, and do so in clever, childish manner, but it even makes me laugh, because I can't deny what they are saying, though I wish I could.
________ John Y. Web Applications Developer john@jg-technologies.net
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Firstly, I am not an Apple/Mac fan, but I have to tip my hat off to the Apple Marketing department. With the iPod (yes, *cough*, *looks away* I have one), and now these ads against PC's. They are minimilistic, probably very inexpensive, but do a great job at what I assume is their intention -- Make people think about their product. And voila...now a bunch of computer programmers are discussing them in a forum. MISSION ACCOMPLISHED. And yes, they do like to stab at microsoft, and do so in clever, childish manner, but it even makes me laugh, because I can't deny what they are saying, though I wish I could.
________ John Y. Web Applications Developer john@jg-technologies.net
exactly, and how many Microsoft fans hate mac for these commercials and now will never even give mac a second glance. there good for both companies, it just spurs fanboyism on both sides. iam an avid pc user but i think the average home user would benefit from a mac
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There's a utility out there that someone wrote to decrapify your pc[^]. Walt Mossberg wrote about it here.[^].
Mike Poz
I have seen that but never used it. As for the crap it appears that even if you say do not install on Dell's customize at least for a laptop some of the crap still gets installed. :mad:
John
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exactly, and how many Microsoft fans hate mac for these commercials and now will never even give mac a second glance. there good for both companies, it just spurs fanboyism on both sides. iam an avid pc user but i think the average home user would benefit from a mac
Very well put, Mr. Scott, (except of course the mac plug for an avg home user!) :-) j/k. For me, I would only suggest a MAC for someone in graphic design/music/video editing... and even with those, you can do that on a PC, but MAC seems the popular choice for such functionality. (probably becasue its so "cool, cleek, and hip")
________ John Y. Web Applications Developer john@jg-technologies.net
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I have seen that but never used it. As for the crap it appears that even if you say do not install on Dell's customize at least for a laptop some of the crap still gets installed. :mad:
John
Same with HP, the crap is persistent too.:mad: Who ever created Vongo should have something not very nice done to them. I will try decrapifier on it. Len
John M. Drescher wrote:
I have seen that but never used it. As for the crap it appears that even if you say do not install on Dell's customize at least for a laptop some of the crap still gets installed.
Len
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Does anyone else find these commercials as ridculous as I do? I just saw the lastest one where PC is bloated with free software. How is this Microsoft's fault? The PC manfactures are the ones who fill up the systems with crap. Microsoft has also been forced to include other software.
only two letters away from being an asset
Whether its M$s fault or not, it's still pretty much the truth of the matter. I haven't seen an OEM PC yet that isn't full of pre isntalled crap in which a lot of it is very difficult if not impossible to remove. I can't speak for macs; I have no idea how they come out of the box. All I know is that whenever I get in a new pc from any of the big three or any smaller oem seller, I do a complete reinstall before it goes anywhere else (in the company I work for or for any personal 'side job' I take on for a client).
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Does anyone else find these commercials as ridculous as I do? I just saw the lastest one where PC is bloated with free software. How is this Microsoft's fault? The PC manfactures are the ones who fill up the systems with crap. Microsoft has also been forced to include other software.
only two letters away from being an asset
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Mark Nischalke wrote:
How is this Microsoft's fault?
Who said is was? Apple is promoting the entire package: hardware, OS and bundled apps. That particular commercial is geared more towards HP, Dell, Acer, etc... than Microsoft.
"I'm a great believer in luck, and I find the harder I work the more I have of it." - Thomas Jefferson
Isn't that part of what the whole anti-trust suit against MS was about. Including software that wasn't deemed required for an operating system (IE, Media Player...)? There by having their foot-in-the-door before other competition. I say time for a class action law suit against Apple for including software that I wanted to write! Ha Ha.
To Breath is to have life; To Code is to live!
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Same with HP, the crap is persistent too.:mad: Who ever created Vongo should have something not very nice done to them. I will try decrapifier on it. Len
John M. Drescher wrote:
I have seen that but never used it. As for the crap it appears that even if you say do not install on Dell's customize at least for a laptop some of the crap still gets installed.
Len
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Isn't that part of what the whole anti-trust suit against MS was about. Including software that wasn't deemed required for an operating system (IE, Media Player...)? There by having their foot-in-the-door before other competition. I say time for a class action law suit against Apple for including software that I wanted to write! Ha Ha.
To Breath is to have life; To Code is to live!
Jeff Palmer wrote:
I say time for a class action law suit against Apple for including software that I wanted to write!
Difference being market share. Microsoft was declared a monopoly and thus has to live by a different set of rules than non-monopolies. Seems odd, but that's the law.
"I'm a great believer in luck, and I find the harder I work the more I have of it." - Thomas Jefferson
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My sad recently got a new XP Pro machine from HP, and to my utter shock, it had only a DVD player app on it. Nothing else, and the player is worth keeping as it isn't a trial and the PC has a DVD drive. I sure hope it's the start of a new era.
It probably had Vista on it and the crapware isn't yet compatable.:-D
Len
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Does anyone else find these commercials as ridculous as I do? I just saw the lastest one where PC is bloated with free software. How is this Microsoft's fault? The PC manfactures are the ones who fill up the systems with crap. Microsoft has also been forced to include other software.
only two letters away from being an asset
Aww just ignore it. MAC's are nice machines but they're just doing the old tomato throwing act. Second place contenders always have tomato launchers as their front-line equipment. -CB :)
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It probably had Vista on it and the crapware isn't yet compatable.:-D
Len
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My sad recently got a new XP Pro machine from HP, and to my utter shock, it had only a DVD player app on it. Nothing else, and the player is worth keeping as it isn't a trial and the PC has a DVD drive. I sure hope it's the start of a new era.