Annoying Phrases - RANT
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El Corazon wrote:
Without force of contact, language drifts
I think the internet and television and so on will counteract the drift. I noticed that teenagers in Sweden tended to have an American accent, because of watching US-produced soapies on TV. Sweden largely prohibits dubbing of foreign TV or Cinema content, except for that aimed at young children (under-12, maybe.)
normanS wrote:
Sweden largely prohibits dubbing of foreign TV or Cinema content, except for that aimed at young children (under-12, maybe.)
I wouldn't say "prohibit". There are no laws against dubbing. It's just that nobody would ever watch it. Can you imagine how stupid dubbed movies sound and look?? Speech and lips totally out of sync. :shudder: Children's movies are typically available as both dubbed and untouched. Yes, I have an American accent. :-D
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You typically loan money, and borrow books. Someone lends you money and/or books. A: Mr. B, may I borrow your book? B: Yes, I'll lend it to you. A: May I also loan some money? B: Yes, I'll lend you some money too. I think I got it right. :~
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Thanks. The difference between borrow and loan is the same in German and that's what I meant with "the Germans usually use the wrong version". Nobody would say "May I loan some eggs?" They always say "May I borrow some eggs?" what is wrong. Arrgg... that's complicated :confused: ... I'll better buy my stuff :)
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Thanks. The difference between borrow and loan is the same in German and that's what I meant with "the Germans usually use the wrong version". Nobody would say "May I loan some eggs?" They always say "May I borrow some eggs?" what is wrong. Arrgg... that's complicated :confused: ... I'll better buy my stuff :)
Stephan Hoppe wrote:
Arrgg... that's complicated :confused: ... I'll better buy my stuff
:laugh: Naah, just memorize it somehow. Look on the bright side - you don't have to memorize gender for every English noun. Articles, adjectives, etc stay the same regardless of case. Only pronouns change - but only between normal and objective cases (there is no distinction between direct and passive object in English). The German language requires Fingerspitzgefühl. :)
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You typically loan money, and borrow books. Someone lends you money and/or books. A: Mr. B, may I borrow your book? B: Yes, I'll lend it to you. A: May I also loan some money? B: Yes, I'll lend you some money too. I think I got it right. :~
-- Torn from tomorrow's headlines
'Loan' and 'lend' are synonyms. Not sure whether the noun or verb 'loan' came first. Unless you meant that both A and B are giving money to the other! I would use either word for either resource - in both cases we mean that you give the resource to me now, and I'll give it back to you later. 'Loan' or 'lend' tends to have a longer timespan than simply 'borrowing'.
Stability. What an interesting concept. -- Chris Maunder
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Well, this thread probably belongs in the Soapbox. But I'll throw one in. I hate the word "irregardless." THAT IS NOT A WORD. You mean to say "regardless." Bah!
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'Loan' and 'lend' are synonyms. Not sure whether the noun or verb 'loan' came first. Unless you meant that both A and B are giving money to the other! I would use either word for either resource - in both cases we mean that you give the resource to me now, and I'll give it back to you later. 'Loan' or 'lend' tends to have a longer timespan than simply 'borrowing'.
Stability. What an interesting concept. -- Chris Maunder
Synonyms, how? Isn't lend a to-word, while loan is a from-word? (I'm sorry for lacking in the terminology department ;)) I use "to loan" with money probably because of the noun (meaning I'm not sure why, it's just a gut feeling)
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Well, if you count England, Ireland, Scotland, Wales, South Africa, Australia and New Zealand as a region then yes, "slag off" is regional :)
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
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Paul Watson wrote:
Australia
Paul Watson wrote:
"slag off"
Nah its a british thing, never heard it used by an Aussie
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The germans (I am German by myself) have two or even more words like borrow and lend. However, most of us use the wrong one all the time because it would just sound weired to use the right one. I am curious and because I live in Canada now, I am wondering if my version of it is right: Borrow: For things you will consume or spend (like money, eggs, ...). So you just give back the same amount of the same thing. Lend: You give back exactly the same thing (e. g. the lawn mower, bike, ...). Thanks for clear this one up. Stephan
Borrow is to receive. Lend is to give. There are two parties the borrower and the lender. So "May I borrow your pencil" and "Will you lend me your pencil" are correct. "Will you borrow me your pencil" is incorrect. (This is what Leckey was referring to) Loaning usually refers to a loan of money and is more formal.
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normanS wrote:
Sweden largely prohibits dubbing of foreign TV or Cinema content, except for that aimed at young children (under-12, maybe.)
I wouldn't say "prohibit". There are no laws against dubbing. It's just that nobody would ever watch it. Can you imagine how stupid dubbed movies sound and look?? Speech and lips totally out of sync. :shudder: Children's movies are typically available as both dubbed and untouched. Yes, I have an American accent. :-D
-- The Show That Watches Back
Joergen Sigvardsson wrote:
Can you imagine how stupid dubbed movies sound and look?? Speech and lips totally out of sync
What do you mean "imagine"? For many years, we had British and American movies and TV serials dubbed into Afrikaans in South Africa. Although to be honest, the studios usually did an excellent job - it was often difficult to see a difference in lip / sound synchronisation. The really funny thing was when you were used to a dubbed-to-Afrikaans program such as "Blitspatrollie" (police Flying Squad) and you later saw the original program ("Sweeney Todd", I think it was called) with the characters talking with Cockney accents.
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Yeah, it's pretty common where I grew up just north of Milwaukee. They also call water fountains bubblers, which I still can't figure out.
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Andy Brummer wrote:
They also call water fountains bubblers, which I still can't figure out.
Cause that's what there called. Fountains are found in parks and to the best of my knowledge always have water in them.
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