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What happened to the Do-Not-Call list?

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  • X Xiangyang Liu

    My phone number is on the list, I am getting called frequently by various people/companies asking for money or trying to sell me services, etc. What do you do in this situation?

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    Q&A: The National Do Not Call Registry[^] refer to item #29 on the page

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      Q&A: The National Do Not Call Registry[^] refer to item #29 on the page

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      Thanks. "For law enforcement officials to take action on your complaint, they need either the telemarketer’s name or phone number, as well as the date of the call. If you want to report a do not call violation, please get that information." That's going to be hard.

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      • X Xiangyang Liu

        My phone number is on the list, I am getting called frequently by various people/companies asking for money or trying to sell me services, etc. What do you do in this situation?

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        Two things, if you've only just signed up, it won't take effect immediately. It may be a few months before your name gets passed on. If you've been signed up for a while, check you are still on the list. I was signed up for a year or two when I started getting calls again. I checked the do not call list website and it said I wasn't on the list anymore.

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          My phone number is on the list, I am getting called frequently by various people/companies asking for money or trying to sell me services, etc. What do you do in this situation?

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          JimmyRopes
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          Get a whistle. A professional whistle. A really loud one like the ones used by athletic coaches. The metal ones that will leave your ear ringing for some time if you are exposed to them over a telephone. :rolleyes: My Aunt used that technique to persuade a would be English teacher from teaching her granddaughter some age inappropriate idiomatic expressions. X| It didn't take long for this person to decide he really didn't want to call there any more. :rolleyes:

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            Two things, if you've only just signed up, it won't take effect immediately. It may be a few months before your name gets passed on. If you've been signed up for a while, check you are still on the list. I was signed up for a year or two when I started getting calls again. I checked the do not call list website and it said I wasn't on the list anymore.

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            Xiangyang Liu
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            Just verified, my number is still on the list. Thanks.

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              Two things, if you've only just signed up, it won't take effect immediately. It may be a few months before your name gets passed on. If you've been signed up for a while, check you are still on the list. I was signed up for a year or two when I started getting calls again. I checked the do not call list website and it said I wasn't on the list anymore.

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              Dan Neely
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              did enter a contest without reading the fine print? I've seen some that include fine print saying "take me off the DNCL" :mad:

              -- You have to explain to them [VB coders] what you mean by "typed". their first response is likely to be something like, "Of course my code is typed. Do you think i magically project it onto the screen with the power of my mind?" --- John Simmons / outlaw programmer

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                Get a whistle. A professional whistle. A really loud one like the ones used by athletic coaches. The metal ones that will leave your ear ringing for some time if you are exposed to them over a telephone. :rolleyes: My Aunt used that technique to persuade a would be English teacher from teaching her granddaughter some age inappropriate idiomatic expressions. X| It didn't take long for this person to decide he really didn't want to call there any more. :rolleyes:

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                Xiangyang Liu
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                JimmyRopes wrote:

                Get a whistle. A professional whistle.

                My friend is out of town and he left a pair of birds in my house for me to take care until he comes back. Those birds are small but really loud. I think they can produce the same effect as a professional whistle, too bad I have no control over when they make the noise. :)

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                  Thanks. "For law enforcement officials to take action on your complaint, they need either the telemarketer’s name or phone number, as well as the date of the call. If you want to report a do not call violation, please get that information." That's going to be hard.

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                  Xiangyang Liu wrote:

                  That's going to be hard.

                  by law they have to give it to you, if you ask

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                    JimmyRopes wrote:

                    Get a whistle. A professional whistle.

                    My friend is out of town and he left a pair of birds in my house for me to take care until he comes back. Those birds are small but really loud. I think they can produce the same effect as a professional whistle, too bad I have no control over when they make the noise. :)

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                    Xiangyang Liu wrote:

                    too bad I have no control over when they make the noise.

                    That's why you need a whistle. :-D

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                      did enter a contest without reading the fine print? I've seen some that include fine print saying "take me off the DNCL" :mad:

                      -- You have to explain to them [VB coders] what you mean by "typed". their first response is likely to be something like, "Of course my code is typed. Do you think i magically project it onto the screen with the power of my mind?" --- John Simmons / outlaw programmer

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                      dan neely wrote:

                      I've seen some that include fine print saying "take me off the DNCL"

                      Wow, that's pretty low.

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                        Xiangyang Liu wrote:

                        That's going to be hard.

                        by law they have to give it to you, if you ask

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                        Chris Losinger wrote:

                        by law they have to give it to you, if you ask

                        The guy who called last night just hang up on me.

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                        • X Xiangyang Liu

                          My phone number is on the list, I am getting called frequently by various people/companies asking for money or trying to sell me services, etc. What do you do in this situation?

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                          You have to re-register about every two years. I have not read everyone else's responses but here's my answer: 1. Charities, polls can still call you. If you ask a specific charity to not call again, have them send you a letter confirming this. 2. If you don't check a box somewhere when you register something, it opens up the floodgates to allow that company and any other partner companies to contact you. Again, if you ask to be removed from that one company, it doesn't affect the others. Get a specific letter from each company. 3. Get caller ID. I kept getting calls about getting satellite service and kept asking to be removed as I had just signed the do not call act for my new phone number. I got tons of calls and finally called the satellite company itself. Turns out the calls were fraudulent. Each time I asked for names or numbers, they either hung up or swore at me. When trying to call the number on the ID it is often busy. If you can't get through, contact the Public Utilities Commission of your state. It's possible that if they are frauds the number showing is a 'cover' number. 4. If you have proof of a violation, contact the attorney general of your state. My state has an online form you can fill out for stuff like this. Turns out I was one of many gettng the satellite scam calls.

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                            Get a whistle. A professional whistle. A really loud one like the ones used by athletic coaches. The metal ones that will leave your ear ringing for some time if you are exposed to them over a telephone. :rolleyes: My Aunt used that technique to persuade a would be English teacher from teaching her granddaughter some age inappropriate idiomatic expressions. X| It didn't take long for this person to decide he really didn't want to call there any more. :rolleyes:

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                            If the call is legal (charity, poll etc) and you do that, if the person suffers hearing damage they can come back and sue you. So I would probably look for other tactics. There is a comedian who likes to 'play' with the person on the other end. Someone called about satellite services and the comedian pretended he was a police officer at a crime scene.

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                              dan neely wrote:

                              I've seen some that include fine print saying "take me off the DNCL"

                              Wow, that's pretty low.

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                              Yep. Anytime you register a new product, enter a contest or even apply for credit it can get your name back into the game.

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                                If the call is legal (charity, poll etc) and you do that, if the person suffers hearing damage they can come back and sue you. So I would probably look for other tactics. There is a comedian who likes to 'play' with the person on the other end. Someone called about satellite services and the comedian pretended he was a police officer at a crime scene.

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                                leckey wrote:

                                If the call is legal (charity, poll etc) and you do that, if the person suffers hearing damage they can come back and sue you.

                                I am not suggesting that you do this to a legal caller. Them you just tell to piss off! The whistle is for obviously inappropriate calls, like my Aunt was getting or some one wanting to refinance your home. X| Actually, what I do to the legitimate calls is tell them that I will be right back because I need to turn off the stove and then I put the phone down. I figure the only way to get back at them is to waste their time; just like they were about to do with yours. :~

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                                  leckey wrote:

                                  If the call is legal (charity, poll etc) and you do that, if the person suffers hearing damage they can come back and sue you.

                                  I am not suggesting that you do this to a legal caller. Them you just tell to piss off! The whistle is for obviously inappropriate calls, like my Aunt was getting or some one wanting to refinance your home. X| Actually, what I do to the legitimate calls is tell them that I will be right back because I need to turn off the stove and then I put the phone down. I figure the only way to get back at them is to waste their time; just like they were about to do with yours. :~

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                                  While I am not a fan of the calls myself, remember that the person on the other end probably does not like what they do either. They might not be able to find other work that pays the same. Blame the company, not the caller. No one grows up hoping to be a telemarketer.

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                                    While I am not a fan of the calls myself, remember that the person on the other end probably does not like what they do either. They might not be able to find other work that pays the same. Blame the company, not the caller. No one grows up hoping to be a telemarketer.

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                                    leckey wrote:

                                    While I am not a fan of the calls myself, remember that the person on the other end probably does not like what they do either

                                    They may not like it but if they choose to do reprehensible things they should be prepared for the less than sympathetic response. :~

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                                    No one grows up hoping to be a telemarketer

                                    I was actually desperate enough to be a telemarketer once and I knew full and well that I was imposing on poor people who had no control over my intrusion. The ones that responded less than favorably were just exercising their right to be annoyed at the inconvenience. :rolleyes:

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                                    • X Xiangyang Liu

                                      My phone number is on the list, I am getting called frequently by various people/companies asking for money or trying to sell me services, etc. What do you do in this situation?

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                                      We have caller ID and it's hooked up to our satellite receiver so it displays on the TV as well. If we don't recognize a number we *always* ignore it and let the machine answer. If anyone important want's to get a hold of me they will email anyway. :)


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                                        My phone number is on the list, I am getting called frequently by various people/companies asking for money or trying to sell me services, etc. What do you do in this situation?

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                                        My approach to charities is simple, I just explain politely that I do donate significantly to charity but that I never donate to charities that annoy me by calling me at home. If I have time or are really annoyed I'll ask to speak to a supervisor and spell it out. I treat telemarketers differently, I ask politely if this is a direct marketing call and if they answer yes I simply ask to be removed from their list and not called again (which here in Australia they are supposed to do) and hang up. Unfortunately most try to avoid answering the question, so I then ask "have we done business with you before?" which they almost always answer no, then "did we ask you to call us?" again eliciting a no, so I then (pretending to be annoyed) explain to them that it is a direct marketing call, ask to be removed from their list and not be called again and hang up. I NEVER, EVER answer any of their questions or let them have any control of the conversation. They invariable start by asking "Hello is that Mr (Surname from phone listing)?", my standard reply is "Who's calling?" I don't know whether it works but my calls have really reduced and I don't get so annoyed.


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                                          We have caller ID and it's hooked up to our satellite receiver so it displays on the TV as well. If we don't recognize a number we *always* ignore it and let the machine answer. If anyone important want's to get a hold of me they will email anyway. :)


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                                          John Cardinal wrote:

                                          If anyone important want's to get a hold of me they will email anyway.

                                          Because my e-mail address is listed on the website of a local Chinese school where I serve as the admin, I get more e-mail spams than phone spams (mostly viagra sales and stock quotes).

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