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  • D Dan Neely

    did enter a contest without reading the fine print? I've seen some that include fine print saying "take me off the DNCL" :mad:

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    Wjousts
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    dan neely wrote:

    I've seen some that include fine print saying "take me off the DNCL"

    Wow, that's pretty low.

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      Xiangyang Liu wrote:

      That's going to be hard.

      by law they have to give it to you, if you ask

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      Chris Losinger wrote:

      by law they have to give it to you, if you ask

      The guy who called last night just hang up on me.

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      • X Xiangyang Liu

        My phone number is on the list, I am getting called frequently by various people/companies asking for money or trying to sell me services, etc. What do you do in this situation?

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        leckey 0
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        You have to re-register about every two years. I have not read everyone else's responses but here's my answer: 1. Charities, polls can still call you. If you ask a specific charity to not call again, have them send you a letter confirming this. 2. If you don't check a box somewhere when you register something, it opens up the floodgates to allow that company and any other partner companies to contact you. Again, if you ask to be removed from that one company, it doesn't affect the others. Get a specific letter from each company. 3. Get caller ID. I kept getting calls about getting satellite service and kept asking to be removed as I had just signed the do not call act for my new phone number. I got tons of calls and finally called the satellite company itself. Turns out the calls were fraudulent. Each time I asked for names or numbers, they either hung up or swore at me. When trying to call the number on the ID it is often busy. If you can't get through, contact the Public Utilities Commission of your state. It's possible that if they are frauds the number showing is a 'cover' number. 4. If you have proof of a violation, contact the attorney general of your state. My state has an online form you can fill out for stuff like this. Turns out I was one of many gettng the satellite scam calls.

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        • J JimmyRopes

          Get a whistle. A professional whistle. A really loud one like the ones used by athletic coaches. The metal ones that will leave your ear ringing for some time if you are exposed to them over a telephone. :rolleyes: My Aunt used that technique to persuade a would be English teacher from teaching her granddaughter some age inappropriate idiomatic expressions. X| It didn't take long for this person to decide he really didn't want to call there any more. :rolleyes:

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          leckey 0
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          If the call is legal (charity, poll etc) and you do that, if the person suffers hearing damage they can come back and sue you. So I would probably look for other tactics. There is a comedian who likes to 'play' with the person on the other end. Someone called about satellite services and the comedian pretended he was a police officer at a crime scene.

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            dan neely wrote:

            I've seen some that include fine print saying "take me off the DNCL"

            Wow, that's pretty low.

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            leckey 0
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            Yep. Anytime you register a new product, enter a contest or even apply for credit it can get your name back into the game.

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              If the call is legal (charity, poll etc) and you do that, if the person suffers hearing damage they can come back and sue you. So I would probably look for other tactics. There is a comedian who likes to 'play' with the person on the other end. Someone called about satellite services and the comedian pretended he was a police officer at a crime scene.

              __________________ Bob is my homeboy.

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              JimmyRopes
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              leckey wrote:

              If the call is legal (charity, poll etc) and you do that, if the person suffers hearing damage they can come back and sue you.

              I am not suggesting that you do this to a legal caller. Them you just tell to piss off! The whistle is for obviously inappropriate calls, like my Aunt was getting or some one wanting to refinance your home. X| Actually, what I do to the legitimate calls is tell them that I will be right back because I need to turn off the stove and then I put the phone down. I figure the only way to get back at them is to waste their time; just like they were about to do with yours. :~

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                leckey wrote:

                If the call is legal (charity, poll etc) and you do that, if the person suffers hearing damage they can come back and sue you.

                I am not suggesting that you do this to a legal caller. Them you just tell to piss off! The whistle is for obviously inappropriate calls, like my Aunt was getting or some one wanting to refinance your home. X| Actually, what I do to the legitimate calls is tell them that I will be right back because I need to turn off the stove and then I put the phone down. I figure the only way to get back at them is to waste their time; just like they were about to do with yours. :~

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                leckey 0
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                While I am not a fan of the calls myself, remember that the person on the other end probably does not like what they do either. They might not be able to find other work that pays the same. Blame the company, not the caller. No one grows up hoping to be a telemarketer.

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                  While I am not a fan of the calls myself, remember that the person on the other end probably does not like what they do either. They might not be able to find other work that pays the same. Blame the company, not the caller. No one grows up hoping to be a telemarketer.

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                  leckey wrote:

                  While I am not a fan of the calls myself, remember that the person on the other end probably does not like what they do either

                  They may not like it but if they choose to do reprehensible things they should be prepared for the less than sympathetic response. :~

                  leckey wrote:

                  No one grows up hoping to be a telemarketer

                  I was actually desperate enough to be a telemarketer once and I knew full and well that I was imposing on poor people who had no control over my intrusion. The ones that responded less than favorably were just exercising their right to be annoyed at the inconvenience. :rolleyes:

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                  • X Xiangyang Liu

                    My phone number is on the list, I am getting called frequently by various people/companies asking for money or trying to sell me services, etc. What do you do in this situation?

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                    We have caller ID and it's hooked up to our satellite receiver so it displays on the TV as well. If we don't recognize a number we *always* ignore it and let the machine answer. If anyone important want's to get a hold of me they will email anyway. :)


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                    • X Xiangyang Liu

                      My phone number is on the list, I am getting called frequently by various people/companies asking for money or trying to sell me services, etc. What do you do in this situation?

                      My .NET Business Application Framework My Home Page

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                      cp9876
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                      My approach to charities is simple, I just explain politely that I do donate significantly to charity but that I never donate to charities that annoy me by calling me at home. If I have time or are really annoyed I'll ask to speak to a supervisor and spell it out. I treat telemarketers differently, I ask politely if this is a direct marketing call and if they answer yes I simply ask to be removed from their list and not called again (which here in Australia they are supposed to do) and hang up. Unfortunately most try to avoid answering the question, so I then ask "have we done business with you before?" which they almost always answer no, then "did we ask you to call us?" again eliciting a no, so I then (pretending to be annoyed) explain to them that it is a direct marketing call, ask to be removed from their list and not be called again and hang up. I NEVER, EVER answer any of their questions or let them have any control of the conversation. They invariable start by asking "Hello is that Mr (Surname from phone listing)?", my standard reply is "Who's calling?" I don't know whether it works but my calls have really reduced and I don't get so annoyed.


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                        We have caller ID and it's hooked up to our satellite receiver so it displays on the TV as well. If we don't recognize a number we *always* ignore it and let the machine answer. If anyone important want's to get a hold of me they will email anyway. :)


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                        Xiangyang Liu
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                        John Cardinal wrote:

                        If anyone important want's to get a hold of me they will email anyway.

                        Because my e-mail address is listed on the website of a local Chinese school where I serve as the admin, I get more e-mail spams than phone spams (mostly viagra sales and stock quotes).

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                        • J JimmyRopes

                          leckey wrote:

                          While I am not a fan of the calls myself, remember that the person on the other end probably does not like what they do either

                          They may not like it but if they choose to do reprehensible things they should be prepared for the less than sympathetic response. :~

                          leckey wrote:

                          No one grows up hoping to be a telemarketer

                          I was actually desperate enough to be a telemarketer once and I knew full and well that I was imposing on poor people who had no control over my intrusion. The ones that responded less than favorably were just exercising their right to be annoyed at the inconvenience. :rolleyes:

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                          Right on, gave you a 5.

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                            leckey wrote:

                            While I am not a fan of the calls myself, remember that the person on the other end probably does not like what they do either

                            They may not like it but if they choose to do reprehensible things they should be prepared for the less than sympathetic response. :~

                            leckey wrote:

                            No one grows up hoping to be a telemarketer

                            I was actually desperate enough to be a telemarketer once and I knew full and well that I was imposing on poor people who had no control over my intrusion. The ones that responded less than favorably were just exercising their right to be annoyed at the inconvenience. :rolleyes:

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                            oh gosh that telemarketer was so fucken hot i had to ass rape her with a fan on!!!

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                              dan neely wrote:

                              I've seen some that include fine print saying "take me off the DNCL"

                              Wow, that's pretty low.

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                              Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
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                              Wjousts wrote:

                              dan neely wrote: I've seen some that include fine print saying "take me off the DNCL" Wow, that's pretty low.

                              One more slippery fine print -- more slippery than an eel. :mad: :mad:

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                              • X Xiangyang Liu

                                My phone number is on the list, I am getting called frequently by various people/companies asking for money or trying to sell me services, etc. What do you do in this situation?

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                                Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
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                                Which country are you? I have a list of URLs compiled as Indian DNC Registry here: http://viewsreviews.wordpress.com/2006/07/02/do-not-call-registry/[^]

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                                  Two things, if you've only just signed up, it won't take effect immediately. It may be a few months before your name gets passed on. If you've been signed up for a while, check you are still on the list. I was signed up for a year or two when I started getting calls again. I checked the do not call list website and it said I wasn't on the list anymore.

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                                  Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
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                                  Yep. In India at least it takes 48 days minimum. And in this time gap, you would get calls choking you to death.

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                                    Get a whistle. A professional whistle. A really loud one like the ones used by athletic coaches. The metal ones that will leave your ear ringing for some time if you are exposed to them over a telephone. :rolleyes: My Aunt used that technique to persuade a would be English teacher from teaching her granddaughter some age inappropriate idiomatic expressions. X| It didn't take long for this person to decide he really didn't want to call there any more. :rolleyes:

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                                    Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
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                                    In India, I get these calls post-lunch. So I use them as a very good tools to manage my afternoon siesta to keep myself awake and enhance my professional delivery schedules too. :) Bad Telemarketing Pranksters offer themselves as Good Personal Delivery Enhancers, at least in India. Also, I would recommend TM calls should not be disconnected. Pick it up. If you do not want to talk, put on hold. I think this does not apply to places where incoming calls are charged. In India this is the best way. At least, the telephone company gets revenue. :)

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                                    • X Xiangyang Liu

                                      John Cardinal wrote:

                                      If anyone important want's to get a hold of me they will email anyway.

                                      Because my e-mail address is listed on the website of a local Chinese school where I serve as the admin, I get more e-mail spams than phone spams (mostly viagra sales and stock quotes).

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                                      Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
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                                      I too get a lot of spam but I don't bother since my Inbox.com Spamguard gets enough lunch to devour this spam into his belly (Spam folder).:)

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                                      • X Xiangyang Liu

                                        My phone number is on the list, I am getting called frequently by various people/companies asking for money or trying to sell me services, etc. What do you do in this situation?

                                        My .NET Business Application Framework My Home Page

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                                        David Crow
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                                        Just because your number is on the do-not-call list, does not mean you won't get calls. :rolleyes:


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