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Is God the best programmer?

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  • S Shao Voon Wong

    In an old ATL book, the author dedicates the book to God, saying God is the best programmer, because God programs DNA. I think there is a loophole in his logic. God can do anything he likes to his whim, like make water's element to be O2H instead of H2O. For example, He makes every people with gene xyz is an intellectually challenged idiot, similar He can also make every people with gene abc and not xyz is an idiot without any reason. That's not programming! Programming have to follow certain language syntax and logic! Note: God here refers to the creator of the universe, not God in any particular religions, and could be imaginary for all you know.

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    Dario Solera
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    There's no god.

    If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. - Charlie Brooker My Blog - My Photos - ScrewTurn Wiki

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      There's no god.

      If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. - Charlie Brooker My Blog - My Photos - ScrewTurn Wiki

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      MatthysDT
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      Dario Solera wrote:

      There's no god.

      Do you think this little planet we find ourselves on was the only one of 10 billion others to spawn life as complex as us all by it's little old self? No disrespect to you whatsoever, I just find it too big a coincidence that we even exist!

      _______________________________________________________________________ "you can't forget something you never knew..." M. Du Toit "Watching Migthy Joe Young made me hate my life..................................I want a gorilla!" A. Havemann http://www.myspace.com/manicevilnoodle

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        There's no god.

        If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. - Charlie Brooker My Blog - My Photos - ScrewTurn Wiki

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        Pete OHanlon
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        Dario Solera wrote:

        There's no god.

        There is, and his name is Chuck Norris.:-D

        Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

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          Dario Solera wrote:

          There's no god.

          Do you think this little planet we find ourselves on was the only one of 10 billion others to spawn life as complex as us all by it's little old self? No disrespect to you whatsoever, I just find it too big a coincidence that we even exist!

          _______________________________________________________________________ "you can't forget something you never knew..." M. Du Toit "Watching Migthy Joe Young made me hate my life..................................I want a gorilla!" A. Havemann http://www.myspace.com/manicevilnoodle

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          Jonathan Darka
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          evilnoodle wrote:

          Do you think this little planet we find ourselves on was the only one of 10 billion others to spawn life as complex as us all by it's little old self?

          No, there are almost certainly other planets which developed life too (we just don't have the science to prove it yet) - It has nothing to do with god as there is no such thing, no offence.


          Jonathan Wilkes Darka [Xanya.net]

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            Dario Solera wrote:

            There's no god.

            There is, and his name is Chuck Norris.:-D

            Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

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            Jonathan Darka
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            You gotta love Chuck! :)


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              You gotta love Chuck! :)


              Jonathan Wilkes Darka [Xanya.net]

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              Pete OHanlon
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              Too true.

              Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

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              • D Dario Solera

                There's no god.

                If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. - Charlie Brooker My Blog - My Photos - ScrewTurn Wiki

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                Clickok
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                Dario Solera wrote:

                There's no god.

                Maybe someday you will create a program (a really cool program) about AI. Then, your program will have "intelligence". And maybe (year, maybe) your creation program will forget you. And maybe (maybe!) your creation/program will speak: "I'm intelligent. I know how I was created. I can read my DNA source code and to tell exactly how was my creation process. (And ignoring how the chain of proteins, etc, works in a living being and not in death beings the comments in the source code, your AI program may say: There's no god programmer. :~


                For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.(John 3:16) :badger:

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                  evilnoodle wrote:

                  Do you think this little planet we find ourselves on was the only one of 10 billion others to spawn life as complex as us all by it's little old self?

                  No, there are almost certainly other planets which developed life too (we just don't have the science to prove it yet) - It has nothing to do with god as there is no such thing, no offence.


                  Jonathan Wilkes Darka [Xanya.net]

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                  Dario Solera
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                  Well said. :)

                  If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. - Charlie Brooker My Blog - My Photos - ScrewTurn Wiki

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                    Dario Solera wrote:

                    There's no god.

                    There is, and his name is Chuck Norris.:-D

                    Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

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                    Dario Solera
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                    Pete O`Hanlon wrote:

                    There is, and his name is Chuck Norris.

                    Sorry, my fault. :-D

                    If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. - Charlie Brooker My Blog - My Photos - ScrewTurn Wiki

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                      Dario Solera wrote:

                      There's no god.

                      Maybe someday you will create a program (a really cool program) about AI. Then, your program will have "intelligence". And maybe (year, maybe) your creation program will forget you. And maybe (maybe!) your creation/program will speak: "I'm intelligent. I know how I was created. I can read my DNA source code and to tell exactly how was my creation process. (And ignoring how the chain of proteins, etc, works in a living being and not in death beings the comments in the source code, your AI program may say: There's no god programmer. :~


                      For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.(John 3:16) :badger:

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                      Dario Solera
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                      Nice story. The common misconception is that, if we (mankind) don't understand something, then it must have been created by God. How absurd it is.

                      If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. - Charlie Brooker My Blog - My Photos - ScrewTurn Wiki

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                        R Giskard Reventlov
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                        Yeah, tell that to his wife!

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                          Dario Solera wrote:

                          There's no god.

                          Maybe someday you will create a program (a really cool program) about AI. Then, your program will have "intelligence". And maybe (year, maybe) your creation program will forget you. And maybe (maybe!) your creation/program will speak: "I'm intelligent. I know how I was created. I can read my DNA source code and to tell exactly how was my creation process. (And ignoring how the chain of proteins, etc, works in a living being and not in death beings the comments in the source code, your AI program may say: There's no god programmer. :~


                          For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.(John 3:16) :badger:

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                          Jonathan Darka
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                          The main difference is that if the AI software became self aware it would know it was created as there would be plenty of evidence for it, whereas those who believe in god think they are created and yet have no proof whatsoever. no offence


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                            Chuck Norris is the best programmer.

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                            R Giskard Reventlov
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                            I really don't understand the obsession with midget-man. Besides, never trust a man with a beard: he's trying to hide something. :-)

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                            • J Jonathan Darka

                              The main difference is that if the AI software became self aware it would know it was created as there would be plenty of evidence for it, whereas those who believe in god think they are created and yet have no proof whatsoever. no offence


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                              Clickok
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                              Jonathan [Darka] wrote:

                              those who believe in god think they are created and yet have no proof whatsoever.

                              faith ;)


                              For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.(John 3:16) :badger:

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                              • S Shao Voon Wong

                                Lol! Hopefully we can understand it one day by using massively networked PCs like the Human Genome Project, to map the DNA and its behaviours.

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                                Lost User
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                                We're getting closer and closer. Apparently God put a lot of junk in our DNA: Clickety:doh:

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                                  Jonathan [Darka] wrote:

                                  those who believe in god think they are created and yet have no proof whatsoever.

                                  faith ;)


                                  For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.(John 3:16) :badger:

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                                  Jonathan Darka
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                                  Some of us need more than faith, we require scientific evidence. Blind faith is dangerous, just look at the current conflicts occuring in the world because of faith.


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                                    We're getting closer and closer. Apparently God put a lot of junk in our DNA: Clickety:doh:

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                                    Jonathan Darka
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                                    not god, evolution and mutation. Did you read the article....

                                    The term for them is "junk" DNA, reflecting the presumption that they are merely driftwood from our evolutionary past and have no biological function.


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                                      Some of us need more than faith, we require scientific evidence. Blind faith is dangerous, just look at the current conflicts occuring in the world because of faith.


                                      Jonathan Wilkes Darka [Xanya.net]

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                                      MatthysDT
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                                      "Concept and design necessitate an intelligent designer. The presence of intelligent design proves the existence of an intelligent designer." William A. Dembski This makes sense! Do you think that "the way things work" is by chance, that everything just came into existance through evolution. I do believe in evolution, but what's driving it? And not only the evolution of life, what about matter and elements and the ways they interact. Water, for instance is the only element that becomes less dense when in a solid state, and for this reason the polar ice caps of the North Pole stays afloat. The amount of water in the ice caps are enough to flood the entire planet if suddenly one day (as an example) they should melt. Let's assume water didnt have this property, where would we be? Maybe a race of super intelligent fish? Would we be having this very discussion on an underwater internet? Would we ever have evolved so far? You can't answer that btw, because ice floats. -- modified at 3:42 Monday 18th June, 2007

                                      _______________________________________________________________________ "you can't forget something you never knew..." M. Du Toit "Watching Migthy Joe Young made me hate my life..................................I want a gorilla!" A. Havemann http://www.myspace.com/manicevilnoodle

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                                        not god, evolution and mutation. Did you read the article....

                                        The term for them is "junk" DNA, reflecting the presumption that they are merely driftwood from our evolutionary past and have no biological function.


                                        Jonathan Wilkes Darka [Xanya.net]

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                                        Some say it's evolution, others say it's God... I'm not gonna get into that now.

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                                        • S Shao Voon Wong

                                          In an old ATL book, the author dedicates the book to God, saying God is the best programmer, because God programs DNA. I think there is a loophole in his logic. God can do anything he likes to his whim, like make water's element to be O2H instead of H2O. For example, He makes every people with gene xyz is an intellectually challenged idiot, similar He can also make every people with gene abc and not xyz is an idiot without any reason. That's not programming! Programming have to follow certain language syntax and logic! Note: God here refers to the creator of the universe, not God in any particular religions, and could be imaginary for all you know.

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                                          God is great. God has created a bug free Project

                                          Regards, Sylvester G sylvester_g_m@yahoo.com

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