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    This may be an odd question to ask, but what language do you automatically start writing/designing in when you need to make notes of an idea you will use in a project? Assuming a language of the project hasn't been assigned yet. Most of the stuff i write when i make notes (on paper) is not something that would compile, but i find it efficient enough and it does a decent job as far as putting the idea into solid form, before details get lost and a good portion of it evaporates. It's PHP syntax for the most part with a slight bit of PERL mixed in, variables are typed. When i'm making notes of HTML, (when i'm working on a layout), i write the opening "div" or "span" tags properly, but i close them with a </div-id> where the div id reduces the chances of closing a tag twice or not at all. For data drawn from a database i used to write "db" in front of the variable name to remind me, but over time that has morphed into an "O" with a vertical line through it. Roswell:)

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      This may be an odd question to ask, but what language do you automatically start writing/designing in when you need to make notes of an idea you will use in a project? Assuming a language of the project hasn't been assigned yet. Most of the stuff i write when i make notes (on paper) is not something that would compile, but i find it efficient enough and it does a decent job as far as putting the idea into solid form, before details get lost and a good portion of it evaporates. It's PHP syntax for the most part with a slight bit of PERL mixed in, variables are typed. When i'm making notes of HTML, (when i'm working on a layout), i write the opening "div" or "span" tags properly, but i close them with a </div-id> where the div id reduces the chances of closing a tag twice or not at all. For data drawn from a database i used to write "db" in front of the variable name to remind me, but over time that has morphed into an "O" with a vertical line through it. Roswell:)

      "Angelinos -- excuse me. There will be civility today."
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      City Mayor, Los Angeles, CA

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      I think in Plain English.

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        This may be an odd question to ask, but what language do you automatically start writing/designing in when you need to make notes of an idea you will use in a project? Assuming a language of the project hasn't been assigned yet. Most of the stuff i write when i make notes (on paper) is not something that would compile, but i find it efficient enough and it does a decent job as far as putting the idea into solid form, before details get lost and a good portion of it evaporates. It's PHP syntax for the most part with a slight bit of PERL mixed in, variables are typed. When i'm making notes of HTML, (when i'm working on a layout), i write the opening "div" or "span" tags properly, but i close them with a </div-id> where the div id reduces the chances of closing a tag twice or not at all. For data drawn from a database i used to write "db" in front of the variable name to remind me, but over time that has morphed into an "O" with a vertical line through it. Roswell:)

        "Angelinos -- excuse me. There will be civility today."
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        Pseudocode[^], with C syntax mixed in.

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          I think in Plain English.

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          string name = "" wrote:

          I think in Plain English.

          It must be an arduous task to then translate that to VB.net, unless you can find the any language to any language translator;P Roswell:|

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            string name = "" wrote:

            I think in Plain English.

            It must be an arduous task to then translate that to VB.net, unless you can find the any language to any language translator;P Roswell:|

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            I wonder if The Grand Negus can use babelfish to translate between his languages...

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              This may be an odd question to ask, but what language do you automatically start writing/designing in when you need to make notes of an idea you will use in a project? Assuming a language of the project hasn't been assigned yet. Most of the stuff i write when i make notes (on paper) is not something that would compile, but i find it efficient enough and it does a decent job as far as putting the idea into solid form, before details get lost and a good portion of it evaporates. It's PHP syntax for the most part with a slight bit of PERL mixed in, variables are typed. When i'm making notes of HTML, (when i'm working on a layout), i write the opening "div" or "span" tags properly, but i close them with a </div-id> where the div id reduces the chances of closing a tag twice or not at all. For data drawn from a database i used to write "db" in front of the variable name to remind me, but over time that has morphed into an "O" with a vertical line through it. Roswell:)

              "Angelinos -- excuse me. There will be civility today."
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              Mark Salsbery
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              My notes/designs look like a combination of indented c/c++ (without the curlies) and a flow chart without specific symbols. Lines and arrows to indicate flow. Any remaining whitespace is filled with boxed-in "sidebars". Mark

              "Posting a VB.NET question in the C++ forum will end in tears." Chris Maunder

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                This may be an odd question to ask, but what language do you automatically start writing/designing in when you need to make notes of an idea you will use in a project? Assuming a language of the project hasn't been assigned yet. Most of the stuff i write when i make notes (on paper) is not something that would compile, but i find it efficient enough and it does a decent job as far as putting the idea into solid form, before details get lost and a good portion of it evaporates. It's PHP syntax for the most part with a slight bit of PERL mixed in, variables are typed. When i'm making notes of HTML, (when i'm working on a layout), i write the opening "div" or "span" tags properly, but i close them with a </div-id> where the div id reduces the chances of closing a tag twice or not at all. For data drawn from a database i used to write "db" in front of the variable name to remind me, but over time that has morphed into an "O" with a vertical line through it. Roswell:)

                "Angelinos -- excuse me. There will be civility today."
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                City Mayor, Los Angeles, CA

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                Usually some mix of Javascript and C++. For HTML, i just draw rough pictures of what i want and where it should be in relation to other things, then type out the corresponding markup. I don't think in markup, even when i'm writing it.

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                  Usually some mix of Javascript and C++. For HTML, i just draw rough pictures of what i want and where it should be in relation to other things, then type out the corresponding markup. I don't think in markup, even when i'm writing it.

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                  Yes, but can you blame them for doing so if that's the only legal way they can hire programmers they want at the rate they can afford?

                  -- Nish on sketchy hiring practices

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                  Shog9 wrote:

                  For HTML, i just draw rough pictures of what i want and where it should be in relation to other things, then type out the corresponding markup. I don't think in markup, even when i'm writing it.

                  I use CSS for the most part for the visual aspect of it, so all i have for the actual HTML markup is the structural tags, and when i have a column of five identical closing divs it's easy to to screw up when not paying attention Roswell

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                    This may be an odd question to ask, but what language do you automatically start writing/designing in when you need to make notes of an idea you will use in a project? Assuming a language of the project hasn't been assigned yet. Most of the stuff i write when i make notes (on paper) is not something that would compile, but i find it efficient enough and it does a decent job as far as putting the idea into solid form, before details get lost and a good portion of it evaporates. It's PHP syntax for the most part with a slight bit of PERL mixed in, variables are typed. When i'm making notes of HTML, (when i'm working on a layout), i write the opening "div" or "span" tags properly, but i close them with a </div-id> where the div id reduces the chances of closing a tag twice or not at all. For data drawn from a database i used to write "db" in front of the variable name to remind me, but over time that has morphed into an "O" with a vertical line through it. Roswell:)

                    "Angelinos -- excuse me. There will be civility today."
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                    City Mayor, Los Angeles, CA

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                    No language it's all visual. I have a brain that works best with visual input and visual memory. I literally picture an image of what the idea will look like to remember it. I was on a bike ride the other day and in the middle thought of an idea and just so I wouldn't forget it I visualized a screenshot of it in my head and I can still see it perfectly right now without having written it down or anything. (I'm just too lazy to implement it being on holidays right now :))


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                      Shog9 wrote:

                      For HTML, i just draw rough pictures of what i want and where it should be in relation to other things, then type out the corresponding markup. I don't think in markup, even when i'm writing it.

                      I use CSS for the most part for the visual aspect of it, so all i have for the actual HTML markup is the structural tags, and when i have a column of five identical closing divs it's easy to to screw up when not paying attention Roswell

                      "Angelinos -- excuse me. There will be civility today."
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                      RoswellNX wrote:

                      when i have a column of five identical closing divs it's easy to to screw up when not paying attention

                      Heh, that's where a good editor and judicious use of indentation helps... ;)

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                        This may be an odd question to ask, but what language do you automatically start writing/designing in when you need to make notes of an idea you will use in a project? Assuming a language of the project hasn't been assigned yet. Most of the stuff i write when i make notes (on paper) is not something that would compile, but i find it efficient enough and it does a decent job as far as putting the idea into solid form, before details get lost and a good portion of it evaporates. It's PHP syntax for the most part with a slight bit of PERL mixed in, variables are typed. When i'm making notes of HTML, (when i'm working on a layout), i write the opening "div" or "span" tags properly, but i close them with a </div-id> where the div id reduces the chances of closing a tag twice or not at all. For data drawn from a database i used to write "db" in front of the variable name to remind me, but over time that has morphed into an "O" with a vertical line through it. Roswell:)

                        "Angelinos -- excuse me. There will be civility today."
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                        Marc Clifton
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                          This may be an odd question to ask, but what language do you automatically start writing/designing in when you need to make notes of an idea you will use in a project? Assuming a language of the project hasn't been assigned yet. Most of the stuff i write when i make notes (on paper) is not something that would compile, but i find it efficient enough and it does a decent job as far as putting the idea into solid form, before details get lost and a good portion of it evaporates. It's PHP syntax for the most part with a slight bit of PERL mixed in, variables are typed. When i'm making notes of HTML, (when i'm working on a layout), i write the opening "div" or "span" tags properly, but i close them with a </div-id> where the div id reduces the chances of closing a tag twice or not at all. For data drawn from a database i used to write "db" in front of the variable name to remind me, but over time that has morphed into an "O" with a vertical line through it. Roswell:)

                          "Angelinos -- excuse me. There will be civility today."
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                          C#, mostly.


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                            This may be an odd question to ask, but what language do you automatically start writing/designing in when you need to make notes of an idea you will use in a project? Assuming a language of the project hasn't been assigned yet. Most of the stuff i write when i make notes (on paper) is not something that would compile, but i find it efficient enough and it does a decent job as far as putting the idea into solid form, before details get lost and a good portion of it evaporates. It's PHP syntax for the most part with a slight bit of PERL mixed in, variables are typed. When i'm making notes of HTML, (when i'm working on a layout), i write the opening "div" or "span" tags properly, but i close them with a </div-id> where the div id reduces the chances of closing a tag twice or not at all. For data drawn from a database i used to write "db" in front of the variable name to remind me, but over time that has morphed into an "O" with a vertical line through it. Roswell:)

                            "Angelinos -- excuse me. There will be civility today."
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                            Jon Sagara
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                            Engrish. Because I'm 1/2 Japanese? :rolleyes:

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                              This may be an odd question to ask, but what language do you automatically start writing/designing in when you need to make notes of an idea you will use in a project? Assuming a language of the project hasn't been assigned yet. Most of the stuff i write when i make notes (on paper) is not something that would compile, but i find it efficient enough and it does a decent job as far as putting the idea into solid form, before details get lost and a good portion of it evaporates. It's PHP syntax for the most part with a slight bit of PERL mixed in, variables are typed. When i'm making notes of HTML, (when i'm working on a layout), i write the opening "div" or "span" tags properly, but i close them with a </div-id> where the div id reduces the chances of closing a tag twice or not at all. For data drawn from a database i used to write "db" in front of the variable name to remind me, but over time that has morphed into an "O" with a vertical line through it. Roswell:)

                              "Angelinos -- excuse me. There will be civility today."
                              Antonio VillaRaigosa
                              City Mayor, Los Angeles, CA

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                              Jerry Hammond
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                              RoswellNX wrote:

                              This may be an odd question to ask, but what language do you automatically start writing/designing in when you need to make notes

                              Gibberish. Could this be a root of my career stalling?

                              "We are all repositories for genetically-encoded information that we're all spreading back and forth amongst each other, all the time. We're just lousy with information." - Neal Stephenson

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                                Your post reminds me of this list: 12. Specifications are for the weak and timid! 11. This machine is a piece of GAGH! I need dual Pentium processors if I am to do battle with this code! 10. You cannot really appreciate Dilbert unless you've read it in the original Klingon. 9. Indentation?! -- I will show you how to indent when I indent your skull! 8. What is this talk of 'release'? Klingons do not make software 'releases'. Our software 'escapes' leaving a bloody trail of designers and quality assurance people in its wake. 7. Klingon function calls do not have 'parameters' -- they have 'arguments' -- and they ALWAYS WIN THEM. 6. Debugging? Klingons do not debug. Our software does not coddle the weak. 5. I have challenged the entire quality assurance team to a Bat-Leth contest. They will not concern us again. 4. A TRUE Klingon Warrior does not comment his code! 3. By filing this SPR you have challenged the honor of my family. Prepare to die! 2. You question the worthiness of my code? I should kill you where you stand! 1. Our users will know fear and cower before our software. Ship it! Ship it, and let them flee like the dogs they are!

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                                  Your post reminds me of this list: 12. Specifications are for the weak and timid! 11. This machine is a piece of GAGH! I need dual Pentium processors if I am to do battle with this code! 10. You cannot really appreciate Dilbert unless you've read it in the original Klingon. 9. Indentation?! -- I will show you how to indent when I indent your skull! 8. What is this talk of 'release'? Klingons do not make software 'releases'. Our software 'escapes' leaving a bloody trail of designers and quality assurance people in its wake. 7. Klingon function calls do not have 'parameters' -- they have 'arguments' -- and they ALWAYS WIN THEM. 6. Debugging? Klingons do not debug. Our software does not coddle the weak. 5. I have challenged the entire quality assurance team to a Bat-Leth contest. They will not concern us again. 4. A TRUE Klingon Warrior does not comment his code! 3. By filing this SPR you have challenged the honor of my family. Prepare to die! 2. You question the worthiness of my code? I should kill you where you stand! 1. Our users will know fear and cower before our software. Ship it! Ship it, and let them flee like the dogs they are!

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                                  This list is awesome

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                                    Pseudocode[^], with C syntax mixed in.

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                                    Pseudocode[^],

                                    Did you actually think that most people who frequent the Lounge don't know what pseudocode is, and would need to read the Wikipedia explanation? :|

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                                      No language it's all visual. I have a brain that works best with visual input and visual memory. I literally picture an image of what the idea will look like to remember it. I was on a bike ride the other day and in the middle thought of an idea and just so I wouldn't forget it I visualized a screenshot of it in my head and I can still see it perfectly right now without having written it down or anything. (I'm just too lazy to implement it being on holidays right now :))


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                                      Yeah, pretty much.

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                                        This may be an odd question to ask, but what language do you automatically start writing/designing in when you need to make notes of an idea you will use in a project? Assuming a language of the project hasn't been assigned yet. Most of the stuff i write when i make notes (on paper) is not something that would compile, but i find it efficient enough and it does a decent job as far as putting the idea into solid form, before details get lost and a good portion of it evaporates. It's PHP syntax for the most part with a slight bit of PERL mixed in, variables are typed. When i'm making notes of HTML, (when i'm working on a layout), i write the opening "div" or "span" tags properly, but i close them with a </div-id> where the div id reduces the chances of closing a tag twice or not at all. For data drawn from a database i used to write "db" in front of the variable name to remind me, but over time that has morphed into an "O" with a vertical line through it. Roswell:)

                                        "Angelinos -- excuse me. There will be civility today."
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                                        Latin. Sometimes ancient Greek.

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                                          This may be an odd question to ask, but what language do you automatically start writing/designing in when you need to make notes of an idea you will use in a project? Assuming a language of the project hasn't been assigned yet. Most of the stuff i write when i make notes (on paper) is not something that would compile, but i find it efficient enough and it does a decent job as far as putting the idea into solid form, before details get lost and a good portion of it evaporates. It's PHP syntax for the most part with a slight bit of PERL mixed in, variables are typed. When i'm making notes of HTML, (when i'm working on a layout), i write the opening "div" or "span" tags properly, but i close them with a </div-id> where the div id reduces the chances of closing a tag twice or not at all. For data drawn from a database i used to write "db" in front of the variable name to remind me, but over time that has morphed into an "O" with a vertical line through it. Roswell:)

                                          "Angelinos -- excuse me. There will be civility today."
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                                          We had a professor from S. Korea who taught us to use pseudocode. He would say, "You should hand-simulate at least 20 minutes each night!" The words, plus the accent, made it seem so dirty. But once I get the logic it's mostly c#, sometimes c++ (what we used in college) and some vb (damn access!)

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