Community Quality - Jon Sagara - Christian - Shog - Etc...
-
Always loved codeproject and still love it. It's a great place. I agree with you that people should invest instead of just consume. That will keep things great here. Btw, I hope life is going to smile up on you once again :)
WM. What about weapons of mass-construction? "What? Its an Apple MacBook Pro. They are sexy!" - Paul Watson My blog
Life has truly always smiled upon us. I think for me true wisdom has come from realizing that I needed to swallow my pride and ask others for help. People say that takes courage and humility. Not really. I think it means you have to trust people who really are trustworthy and deserve your respect enough that you ask them for help. My request is not much different than asking for help in one of the programming forums. Christian has the ability to answer many requests for help in the C++ and the C# forums and so he responds to the needs of others by doing so. He's giving his time and knowledge to do it. My request isn't much different. Those who have the ability to respond with an answer will and not even think twice about it. What baffles many (and I've been told this in email) is why I didn't ask sooner. I've been told it's such a small thing to them to help why did I wait for so long. If there was any wisdom that I could impart to anyone in life it's that you need to learn to trust those around you and ask for help when you have a true need. In my case I don't need to know how to work with memory mapped files or how to marshall data across process boundaries. My need is different but others have the ability to help if they only knew about it. I'm at fault for not asking, trusting and believing in others sooner. The inverse of this of course is that I have to be willing to help others and that's always been my goal with http://www.pediatricparents.com[^] (there's nothing there but it's been registered by me since 2003) and as I start to get more momentum on this I'm going to turn that site into a resource for parents like Deanna and I. If I knew before Katie was born what I know right now I would have been paying $22 a month for an insurance policy that would have paid us $2500 a day while Katie was in NICU. I also would have enrolled Katie in Social Security Disability the moment she was born, it would have been free and guaranteed. That would have made all the difference and we'd be so far ahead in life right now. That's knowledge that other parents could surely benefit from and if I keep it to myself I'm only hurting the trust that could exist in the world between strangers. I think life is shining more brightly now than it ever has before because I'm now in a symbiotic circle where I am being helped and it's enabling me to help others. This is going to be a great thing b
-
Stress? Who has stress?:->
Hmm, I have a distant memory going back to last week... It seems to have something to do with giving presentations to the CEO and other management team members.
WM. What about weapons of mass-construction? "What? Its an Apple MacBook Pro. They are sexy!" - Paul Watson My blog
-
I'm still here. A bit subdued but I enjoy the distraction of reading the comments. One that recently hurt a bit was the post about quality here. Someone said, it's not as good and that they don't read forum X and Y anymore and they were going to head over to the soapbox to get some value. Can I rant for a minute? Folks, Code Project isn't a restaurant, it's not a buffet and it's certainly not a catered event. Code Project is the best damned open air picnic there is and you get whatever you choose to bring. Even better is that some people bring enough to share with others and the diversity and quality they provide is just pure *BOOM* one more time in case you missed it, BOOM!!! I've kind of been the squeaky wheel of late at CP and I have really mixed feelings about what I've done. I'm so glad to have gotten help but in doing so I think I changed people's perception of me in the process. That kind of sucks. I'm not sure that code-frog will ever really be code-frog again. Which brings me back to my point. Code-frog is only going to be whatever he brings to the picnic and shares with others and thanks to many of you over the last few days and some even years my picnic basket is pretty full right now and I'm talking up CP to friends, peers and strangers like it's the mecca of the modern age. There are so many amazing people here and I can run off a list of names that most of you would know so well you'd be able to say, "Yeah, good list frog but you forgot {name1}, {name2} and ->recursive loop<- here." But for me there are 2 people that have always been so close and so awesome that they might as well be brothers. Now BradMl is sneaking into that list because he's put some heroic effort into things lately so make sure he gets a nod. Christian Grauss (yeah big surprise) deserves a nod. I'm not going to list reasons and if you don't know them just hang out here. If you believe in a divine creator then that creator did something cool when he poured the mold Christian Grauss and that's all I can say. If you disagree or wonder what I mean then read a bit about CG. He's only got like 20,000 posts here and most of them could be printed in a book and turned into book and turned into a Best Seller. If life's a picnic he brings a lot to the event. But an unsung hero of mine has always been Jon Sagara. I don't think I can say enough about things he's done to help me out. I'm not the best ASP .Net developer there was in fact I suck. Were it not for Jon's patience and experience I don't think I'd be able to even run my own
code-frog wrote:
Christian Grauss (yeah big surprise)
Why surprise?:confused: What about Chris Maunder;)
-
code-frog wrote:
Christian Grauss (yeah big surprise)
Why surprise?:confused: What about Chris Maunder;)
Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:
What about Chris Maunder;)
{Edit}The big surprise comment about Christian was dripping with sarcasm. He's tasmanian it's obvious he'd be on the list. Rumor is he's even a lordly king in Tasmania but I cannot confirm it I'm not yet sure where Tasmania is.:-D{/Edit} You are right. Chris Maunder matters but he belongs on a list unique unto himself. He and David Cunningham had true vision with what they have done here and they knew when the started they'd have to give before they ever received and you see evidence of it everywhere.:rose: I'm so glad Chris is out riding and enjoying life right now.:cool: We never really know what David is up to but I'm sure he takes time away as well and I hope it refreshes him just as much.
-
Yeah, I saw your OP on your condition and pending surgery. I felt like me commenting would have just seemed kind of cheap towards you. I know what some of the challenges are you face (clearly not all of them). It's always so awkward to talk with people about it. If you tell them the whole story it takes forever. There are so many details. When it's all done you are either bored from it or exhausted by it and that depends literally on how you are doing at the moment and who you might be speaking to. In the end it's just draining because you know they don't understand. For them they probably get to go home, back to work, school whatever and forget about it. Heploc's, 02 saturation, respiration, absorbtion, malabsorption, colostomy bags and things just really don't mean anything. I could go on and on but you *know* what I mean. It's just mentally exhausting at times and there are days where you wish you could just get away. Then there are times where you actually forgot about it completely and were really enjoying yourself and life but then something happens and it crashes you back to the fact that it's not over and it probably won't be anytime soon. My wife was with me in my office this morning and she said, "So how are you getting these people involved and getting them to give like this? Are you telling them we have medical stuff with Katie? Are you telling them how much debt we do have? How are you getting people to give?" and for both of us it's hard to tell the whole world that despite outward appearances we cannot keep up with life anymore. Her concern was that people would know we had a lot of debt. My response to her was, "We cannot make it alone anymore. We are lying to ourselves if we cover this up and it's going to kill us. We have to swallow pride and people have to know that we cannot afford to continue Katie's care on our own nor can we afford the hardship her past care has put on us." She nodded and then I said, "You don't have a kid like Katie, lose your job, lose your home and then try and start your own business because you cannot find work and not have a lot of debt. Anyone who truly thinks about our situation can add that up on their own and we could even lie about it but they would know differently." She looked at me for a minute and I could tell something changed. She bought into what I'm doing and she said, "Yeah, you are right. We are maxed out and something has to be done. We need some help." It's hard to go public with need and make your life and your kid into some charity poster-child. The
I can't say i really give a **** about whose name is on the list...it's not my objective to see my name on there as a means of self-gratification...but i'm sorry now that i realize i've completely missed the time when you've asked the community to help you...it comes as total news to me, but now the little details are comming together. It hurts to see a friend in this kind of situation and i wish i have known this sooner:sigh: But since we are in a similar situation ourselves, best i can do is donate time. Our greencard and other means of of identification have been delayed as the result of an umm.. misshandled immigration file (three separate files until a lady was nice enough to combine them)and of the fact that we were put on a five year hold as the result of 9/11. Despite being legal residents, we had no means of applying for work, and since our guarantor has signed for us, we were not eledgeble for government aid either, even when we've fallen on hard times and haven't had enough to eat by the time rent and everything were paid (we've been living in SoCal for most of the time, you know how expensive everything is there). The guarantor was a friend who has since moved to Canada after serving time for having another identity (he didn't want his military past to follow him in life). We've been doing our best to get by, working under the table, but our savings have since melted. I've pretty much dropped out of school and currently working (Web Dev, Graphic Design), as we need to get beck on our feet. My Mom has recieved her greencard recently and we are doing our best to pay off debt, with some help form a few friends. My name was misspelled on mine and it will take a few more months before they reissue one that's valid. Roswell P.S. It looks like your website is pretty much complete, so i doubt i can really help there, but i guess i can still offer some graphics work
"Angelinos -- excuse me. There will be civility today."
Antonio VillaRaigosa
City Mayor, Los Angeles, CA -
I'm still here. A bit subdued but I enjoy the distraction of reading the comments. One that recently hurt a bit was the post about quality here. Someone said, it's not as good and that they don't read forum X and Y anymore and they were going to head over to the soapbox to get some value. Can I rant for a minute? Folks, Code Project isn't a restaurant, it's not a buffet and it's certainly not a catered event. Code Project is the best damned open air picnic there is and you get whatever you choose to bring. Even better is that some people bring enough to share with others and the diversity and quality they provide is just pure *BOOM* one more time in case you missed it, BOOM!!! I've kind of been the squeaky wheel of late at CP and I have really mixed feelings about what I've done. I'm so glad to have gotten help but in doing so I think I changed people's perception of me in the process. That kind of sucks. I'm not sure that code-frog will ever really be code-frog again. Which brings me back to my point. Code-frog is only going to be whatever he brings to the picnic and shares with others and thanks to many of you over the last few days and some even years my picnic basket is pretty full right now and I'm talking up CP to friends, peers and strangers like it's the mecca of the modern age. There are so many amazing people here and I can run off a list of names that most of you would know so well you'd be able to say, "Yeah, good list frog but you forgot {name1}, {name2} and ->recursive loop<- here." But for me there are 2 people that have always been so close and so awesome that they might as well be brothers. Now BradMl is sneaking into that list because he's put some heroic effort into things lately so make sure he gets a nod. Christian Grauss (yeah big surprise) deserves a nod. I'm not going to list reasons and if you don't know them just hang out here. If you believe in a divine creator then that creator did something cool when he poured the mold Christian Grauss and that's all I can say. If you disagree or wonder what I mean then read a bit about CG. He's only got like 20,000 posts here and most of them could be printed in a book and turned into book and turned into a Best Seller. If life's a picnic he brings a lot to the event. But an unsung hero of mine has always been Jon Sagara. I don't think I can say enough about things he's done to help me out. I'm not the best ASP .Net developer there was in fact I suck. Were it not for Jon's patience and experience I don't think I'd be able to even run my own
code-frog wrote:
Shog
Oh that lazy bum has totally complained about the quality. That's why he started writing CPhog. ;) Speaking of which...I need to get that off that server at work. I'm getting laid off on the 2nd...gotta find me a new server. ;P
-
for some other reason, I am first on that list :-O I feel honored - and will try to live up to it.
We are a big screwed up dysfunctional psychotic happy family - some more screwed up, others more happy, but everybody's psychotic joint venture definition of CP
My first real C# project | Linkify!|FoldWithUs! | sighist -
code-frog wrote:
Shog
Oh that lazy bum has totally complained about the quality. That's why he started writing CPhog. ;) Speaking of which...I need to get that off that server at work. I'm getting laid off on the 2nd...gotta find me a new server. ;P
David Stone wrote:
Oh that lazy bum has totally complained about the quality. That's why he started writing CPhog.
:-> The day i stop finding fault is the day i give up.
----
Yes, but can you blame them for doing so if that's the only legal way they can hire programmers they want at the rate they can afford?
-- Nish on sketchy hiring practices
-
Well if that's[^] your idea of a good time with someone, fair enough mate. Who am I to judge? ;)
Sunrise Wallpaper Project | The StartPage Randomizer | A Random Web Page
He probably meant cuddling... a common typo.:)
Asynchronously daydreaming...
-
I'm still here. A bit subdued but I enjoy the distraction of reading the comments. One that recently hurt a bit was the post about quality here. Someone said, it's not as good and that they don't read forum X and Y anymore and they were going to head over to the soapbox to get some value. Can I rant for a minute? Folks, Code Project isn't a restaurant, it's not a buffet and it's certainly not a catered event. Code Project is the best damned open air picnic there is and you get whatever you choose to bring. Even better is that some people bring enough to share with others and the diversity and quality they provide is just pure *BOOM* one more time in case you missed it, BOOM!!! I've kind of been the squeaky wheel of late at CP and I have really mixed feelings about what I've done. I'm so glad to have gotten help but in doing so I think I changed people's perception of me in the process. That kind of sucks. I'm not sure that code-frog will ever really be code-frog again. Which brings me back to my point. Code-frog is only going to be whatever he brings to the picnic and shares with others and thanks to many of you over the last few days and some even years my picnic basket is pretty full right now and I'm talking up CP to friends, peers and strangers like it's the mecca of the modern age. There are so many amazing people here and I can run off a list of names that most of you would know so well you'd be able to say, "Yeah, good list frog but you forgot {name1}, {name2} and ->recursive loop<- here." But for me there are 2 people that have always been so close and so awesome that they might as well be brothers. Now BradMl is sneaking into that list because he's put some heroic effort into things lately so make sure he gets a nod. Christian Grauss (yeah big surprise) deserves a nod. I'm not going to list reasons and if you don't know them just hang out here. If you believe in a divine creator then that creator did something cool when he poured the mold Christian Grauss and that's all I can say. If you disagree or wonder what I mean then read a bit about CG. He's only got like 20,000 posts here and most of them could be printed in a book and turned into book and turned into a Best Seller. If life's a picnic he brings a lot to the event. But an unsung hero of mine has always been Jon Sagara. I don't think I can say enough about things he's done to help me out. I'm not the best ASP .Net developer there was in fact I suck. Were it not for Jon's patience and experience I don't think I'd be able to even run my own
Very nicely said. I wasn't sure what to say about your posts... my heart goes out to you, but I can't really help, so I'm not saying anything other than I hope you work it out. You do make a good point though... this is a charitable community. The whole spirit of internet forums in the first place is charitable, so I'm not surprised that the top posters are also nice charitable people as well. Someone asked me a while back why I bother to post on here, and I wasn't really sure why. It is charity, community, and lively discussion that brings me here. I've posted some weird questions on here, but it's because I know that the community is intelligent and extremely varied, and people are charitable enough to want to help. I don't know of any other programming-focused community where you could get a good answer about what type of gun to buy (which I actually asked one day). I got really good answers on that, and I posted it because I knew I would. Normally I would not ask that type of question to a bunch of programmers, but yeah, the community here is quite superior, and I have no doubt that we could probably answer any question anybody ever asked, about anything. Those people who bash the quality here are like you said, simply not participating. If you are one of those who comes and takes from us, and never gives back... we know who you are, and are reluctant to answer your questions, which is why the quality of your experience here is lower. Participate and your experience will get better. I'm not sure why I didn't make the "Wicked bitches that I hate" list... cuz I try so hard, you know. I fully agree with your list though... those people are all really great people. I love debating and I tend to admire the people who can argue without getting personal. Of course, the ones who get personal are amusing too - I was in love with Jeremy Falcon :)
"Quality Software since 1983!"
http://www.smoothjazzy.com/ - see the "Programming" section for freeware tools and articles. -
Very nicely said. I wasn't sure what to say about your posts... my heart goes out to you, but I can't really help, so I'm not saying anything other than I hope you work it out. You do make a good point though... this is a charitable community. The whole spirit of internet forums in the first place is charitable, so I'm not surprised that the top posters are also nice charitable people as well. Someone asked me a while back why I bother to post on here, and I wasn't really sure why. It is charity, community, and lively discussion that brings me here. I've posted some weird questions on here, but it's because I know that the community is intelligent and extremely varied, and people are charitable enough to want to help. I don't know of any other programming-focused community where you could get a good answer about what type of gun to buy (which I actually asked one day). I got really good answers on that, and I posted it because I knew I would. Normally I would not ask that type of question to a bunch of programmers, but yeah, the community here is quite superior, and I have no doubt that we could probably answer any question anybody ever asked, about anything. Those people who bash the quality here are like you said, simply not participating. If you are one of those who comes and takes from us, and never gives back... we know who you are, and are reluctant to answer your questions, which is why the quality of your experience here is lower. Participate and your experience will get better. I'm not sure why I didn't make the "Wicked bitches that I hate" list... cuz I try so hard, you know. I fully agree with your list though... those people are all really great people. I love debating and I tend to admire the people who can argue without getting personal. Of course, the ones who get personal are amusing too - I was in love with Jeremy Falcon :)
"Quality Software since 1983!"
http://www.smoothjazzy.com/ - see the "Programming" section for freeware tools and articles.Nice comments.:cool::rose:
-
I'm still here. A bit subdued but I enjoy the distraction of reading the comments. One that recently hurt a bit was the post about quality here. Someone said, it's not as good and that they don't read forum X and Y anymore and they were going to head over to the soapbox to get some value. Can I rant for a minute? Folks, Code Project isn't a restaurant, it's not a buffet and it's certainly not a catered event. Code Project is the best damned open air picnic there is and you get whatever you choose to bring. Even better is that some people bring enough to share with others and the diversity and quality they provide is just pure *BOOM* one more time in case you missed it, BOOM!!! I've kind of been the squeaky wheel of late at CP and I have really mixed feelings about what I've done. I'm so glad to have gotten help but in doing so I think I changed people's perception of me in the process. That kind of sucks. I'm not sure that code-frog will ever really be code-frog again. Which brings me back to my point. Code-frog is only going to be whatever he brings to the picnic and shares with others and thanks to many of you over the last few days and some even years my picnic basket is pretty full right now and I'm talking up CP to friends, peers and strangers like it's the mecca of the modern age. There are so many amazing people here and I can run off a list of names that most of you would know so well you'd be able to say, "Yeah, good list frog but you forgot {name1}, {name2} and ->recursive loop<- here." But for me there are 2 people that have always been so close and so awesome that they might as well be brothers. Now BradMl is sneaking into that list because he's put some heroic effort into things lately so make sure he gets a nod. Christian Grauss (yeah big surprise) deserves a nod. I'm not going to list reasons and if you don't know them just hang out here. If you believe in a divine creator then that creator did something cool when he poured the mold Christian Grauss and that's all I can say. If you disagree or wonder what I mean then read a bit about CG. He's only got like 20,000 posts here and most of them could be printed in a book and turned into book and turned into a Best Seller. If life's a picnic he brings a lot to the event. But an unsung hero of mine has always been Jon Sagara. I don't think I can say enough about things he's done to help me out. I'm not the best ASP .Net developer there was in fact I suck. Were it not for Jon's patience and experience I don't think I'd be able to even run my own
Great thoughts, I don't care what any wazoo has to say about Code Project, the level of knowledge here is the best that I have seen. I am a member of many developer sites, but I do more reading, browsing, and participating here than at any other site. The "Lounge", is mainly for sharing thoughts and sometimes blowing off steam, other forums are for their respective uses so if someone is looking for help on a specific problem there are places here to do that. I have never had a question that I didn't get at least 3-5 very helpful ways of taking care of whatever the problem was. At any rate, your comments and cudos to the people that you have mentioned are 100% accurate and I hope that Code Project stays around for a long time! :)
DB_Cooper1950 Either enjoy life, Or Hate Life, Just quit SITTING ON THE FENCE!