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No offense intended, please. I could imagine it's a cat biting it's tail. Or, to stretch another (german) metaphor, pigeons go where other pigeons are, meaning, at a place where most of the conversation runs at a basic level 1) one does not ask a more difficult question because 90% of the readers will have very basic knowledge and one cannot expect many good answers 2) you don't learn anything by reading the existent content. So you just don't go there.
I totally agree. I love reading forums for the learning experience - but the CP ASP.NET forum really doesn't offer much there. Also the ridiculous forum software that shows last posted threads at the top instead of last posted message doesn't really help much either. But on the article side CP is amazing, and the Lounge sometimes contain small nuggets of gold.
"When you have made evil the means of survival, do not expect men to remain good. Do not expect them to stay moral and lose their lives for the purpose of becoming the fodder of the immoral. Do not expect them to produce, when production is punished and looting rewarded. Do not ask, `Who is destroying the world?' You are."
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I totally agree. I love reading forums for the learning experience - but the CP ASP.NET forum really doesn't offer much there. Also the ridiculous forum software that shows last posted threads at the top instead of last posted message doesn't really help much either. But on the article side CP is amazing, and the Lounge sometimes contain small nuggets of gold.
"When you have made evil the means of survival, do not expect men to remain good. Do not expect them to stay moral and lose their lives for the purpose of becoming the fodder of the immoral. Do not expect them to produce, when production is punished and looting rewarded. Do not ask, `Who is destroying the world?' You are."
-Atlas Shrugged, Ayn RandRohde wrote:
Also the ridiculous forum software that shows last posted threads at the top instead of last posted message doesn't really help much either.
What's wrong with that - for me, the system you describe (also used at www.elysiun.com) is just plain daft.....I want to know about new threads, not that someone's posted to a 3yo thread that just happened to be at the top lol....
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how can you be disappointed that people haven't answered questions you haven't asked ?
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The asp.net discussion board has gone down a lot. Most of the questions are so basic that I don't even answer them anymore. However, it is still a good resource.
I didn't get any requirements for the signature
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Sounds like the reply you received on your post in the ASP.NET forum was pretty good. Yes, they were mainly reminding you of some basic things that maybe you didn't implement. Curious though, what makes you consider your post to be more advanced than others? Is it because you didn't use the words 'urgent' or 'plz' in your subject line. Just a thought.
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You can post there. You'll probably get your answer in a timely manner. But many people who used to frequent that board (like myself) got tired of the extremely basic and homework questions. It got to the point that I stop by there once a week or two, instead of my previous frequency of several times a day.
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Rohde wrote:
Also the ridiculous forum software that shows last posted threads at the top instead of last posted message doesn't really help much either.
What's wrong with that - for me, the system you describe (also used at www.elysiun.com) is just plain daft.....I want to know about new threads, not that someone's posted to a 3yo thread that just happened to be at the top lol....
"Knock me down, I'll get straight back up again, I'll come back stronger than a powered up pacman" (Lilly Allen / Kaiser Chiefs)
Well , it's obviously a matter of taste. But the latest isn't always the greatest, and I would normally like to follow threads where there are some activity. It's unbelievably bad UI design that one have to go through pages after pages to follow a thread. That's why the forums (except for the Lounge) doesn't attract any interesting conversation. The problem you mention about necroing an old thread doesn't really happen that often if at all.
"When you have made evil the means of survival, do not expect men to remain good. Do not expect them to stay moral and lose their lives for the purpose of becoming the fodder of the immoral. Do not expect them to produce, when production is punished and looting rewarded. Do not ask, `Who is destroying the world?' You are."
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Jan Limpens wrote:
I found that most of the posts are treating extremely basic questions.
Hah, no lie. And those were the people smart enough to actually post in the ASP.NET forum instead of dumping on the Web Dev board. :sigh:
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There are lots of us on all the boards that want to scream, "HAVE YOU EVER HEARD OF GOOGLE?" I think most of us who are regulars in the Lounge probably enjoy seeing advanced questions. I always appreciate something new rather than reading 5 posts in one day of, 'can you give me the code to connect to my database?' [EDIT] Okay, and I am going to start REALLY going off on those urgents/cross-posters/hlp plz if they have been a member for longer than 1 month. [/EDIT] -- modified at 16:20 Monday 2nd July, 2007
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There are lots of us on all the boards that want to scream, "HAVE YOU EVER HEARD OF GOOGLE?" I think most of us who are regulars in the Lounge probably enjoy seeing advanced questions. I always appreciate something new rather than reading 5 posts in one day of, 'can you give me the code to connect to my database?' [EDIT] Okay, and I am going to start REALLY going off on those urgents/cross-posters/hlp plz if they have been a member for longer than 1 month. [/EDIT] -- modified at 16:20 Monday 2nd July, 2007
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I've just been watching you having fun on the other forums. Don't stop there though - please destroy the txtspkrs as well. They deserve all they get for not knowing what a vowel is. They seem to think that vowels are something that posh people go to the toilet via.
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Well , it's obviously a matter of taste. But the latest isn't always the greatest, and I would normally like to follow threads where there are some activity. It's unbelievably bad UI design that one have to go through pages after pages to follow a thread. That's why the forums (except for the Lounge) doesn't attract any interesting conversation. The problem you mention about necroing an old thread doesn't really happen that often if at all.
"When you have made evil the means of survival, do not expect men to remain good. Do not expect them to stay moral and lose their lives for the purpose of becoming the fodder of the immoral. Do not expect them to produce, when production is punished and looting rewarded. Do not ask, `Who is destroying the world?' You are."
-Atlas Shrugged, Ayn RandRohde wrote:
and I would normally like to follow threads where there are some activity
Try thread view, then you can browse only what is new, with many more per page. But usually the most recent threads have activity.
Rohde wrote:
That's why the forums (except for the Lounge) doesn't attract any interesting conversation.
Noooooo.... the reason why most threads don't get any interesting conversation is the gimmee factor. The poster wants an answer, once they have it, they could care less about expanding on it, or touching additional related subjects. Then you have the poster pushing a purpose, twisting any thread back to his desired outcome... "sure, I do it, see my library...." So converstations are short and to the point. More than half are folks wanting you to do their homework, rather depressing to wade through. I try to post now and then, so do others, the fact that anyone is posting after such a depressing amount of gimmeee posts, shows this place is worth it. Or you can go elsewhere and get the gimmee factor there too, ask your question, and someone can answer it for 9.95!
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Well , it's obviously a matter of taste. But the latest isn't always the greatest, and I would normally like to follow threads where there are some activity. It's unbelievably bad UI design that one have to go through pages after pages to follow a thread. That's why the forums (except for the Lounge) doesn't attract any interesting conversation. The problem you mention about necroing an old thread doesn't really happen that often if at all.
"When you have made evil the means of survival, do not expect men to remain good. Do not expect them to stay moral and lose their lives for the purpose of becoming the fodder of the immoral. Do not expect them to produce, when production is punished and looting rewarded. Do not ask, `Who is destroying the world?' You are."
-Atlas Shrugged, Ayn RandRohde wrote:
It's unbelievably bad UI design that one have to go through pages after pages to follow a thread.
hehe. Speak for yourself. The reason I don't hang out on ANY other forum ANYWHERE is because I can't stand the "most recent post" mentality. The way CP does it works for me and I personally feel it IS the best UI design. Marc
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I am not sure how you hope to find a board which somehow happens to be at exactly your level, and manages to bar entry to newbies. The MSDN forums are far worse than there, in terms of questions easily answered with google.
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Rohde wrote:
It's unbelievably bad UI design that one have to go through pages after pages to follow a thread.
hehe. Speak for yourself. The reason I don't hang out on ANY other forum ANYWHERE is because I can't stand the "most recent post" mentality. The way CP does it works for me and I personally feel it IS the best UI design. Marc
Marc Clifton wrote:
The reason I don't hang out on ANY other forum ANYWHERE is because I can't stand the "most recent post" mentality.
The "most recent post" approach promotes the atrocious practice of "bumping" a thread to the top in order to get attention.
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Well , it's obviously a matter of taste. But the latest isn't always the greatest, and I would normally like to follow threads where there are some activity. It's unbelievably bad UI design that one have to go through pages after pages to follow a thread. That's why the forums (except for the Lounge) doesn't attract any interesting conversation. The problem you mention about necroing an old thread doesn't really happen that often if at all.
"When you have made evil the means of survival, do not expect men to remain good. Do not expect them to stay moral and lose their lives for the purpose of becoming the fodder of the immoral. Do not expect them to produce, when production is punished and looting rewarded. Do not ask, `Who is destroying the world?' You are."
-Atlas Shrugged, Ayn RandIn addition to what Jeff mentioned, you can use Thread View with CPhog[^] and get a much better experience. Basically we mix the thread view and the dynamic view. You click on a thread header and the page will expand with all of the replies, which you can click on and navigate as you normally would. It's pretty nifty.
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In addition to what Jeff mentioned, you can use Thread View with CPhog[^] and get a much better experience. Basically we mix the thread view and the dynamic view. You click on a thread header and the page will expand with all of the replies, which you can click on and navigate as you normally would. It's pretty nifty.
Thanks, I will try it out.
"When you have made evil the means of survival, do not expect men to remain good. Do not expect them to stay moral and lose their lives for the purpose of becoming the fodder of the immoral. Do not expect them to produce, when production is punished and looting rewarded. Do not ask, `Who is destroying the world?' You are."
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Rohde wrote:
It's unbelievably bad UI design that one have to go through pages after pages to follow a thread.
hehe. Speak for yourself. The reason I don't hang out on ANY other forum ANYWHERE is because I can't stand the "most recent post" mentality. The way CP does it works for me and I personally feel it IS the best UI design. Marc
:-D Well, the "IMO" is implied - much UI is obviously a matter of taste. I just find it a very weird forum structure.
"When you have made evil the means of survival, do not expect men to remain good. Do not expect them to stay moral and lose their lives for the purpose of becoming the fodder of the immoral. Do not expect them to produce, when production is punished and looting rewarded. Do not ask, `Who is destroying the world?' You are."
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Jan Limpens wrote:
most of the posts are treating extremely basic questions
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You tried www.asp.net Dan