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  • R RichardS

    Are there any server requirements for ASP.NET?

    "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far the Universe is winning." -- Rich Cook

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    Psycho Coder Extreme
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    RichardS wrote:

    Are there any server requirements for ASP.NET?

    MSDN Wrote

    ASP.NET Platform Requirements ASP.NET is supported on Windows 2000 (Professional, Server, and Advanced Server), Windows XP Professional, and the Windows Server 2003 family for both client and server applications. In addition, to develop ASP.NET server applications, the following software is also required: * Windows 2000 Server or Advanced Server with Service Pack 2, Windows XP Professional or 64-Bit Edition, or one of the Windows Server 2003 family products. * MDAC 2.7 for Data * Internet Information Services Note XML Web services created using ASP.NET support the same platforms supported by ASP.NET. XML Web service clients, however, are supported by all platforms supported by the Microsoft .NET Framework.

    The entire requirements and such can be found here[^]. Hope that helps :)

    "Okay, I give up: which is NOT a real programming language????" Michael Bergman

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      THe answer is always ASP.NET.

      Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )

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      Christian Graus wrote:

      THe answer is always ASP.NET.

      Amen to that, after .Net I wont touch classic ASP (well unless I have absolutely no choice, such as the clients host dont support .Net and they wont change)

      "Let's face it, the average computer user has the brain of a Spider Monkey." Bill Gates

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        Christian Graus wrote:

        THe answer is always ASP.NET.

        Amen to that, after .Net I wont touch classic ASP (well unless I have absolutely no choice, such as the clients host dont support .Net and they wont change)

        "Let's face it, the average computer user has the brain of a Spider Monkey." Bill Gates

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        Christian Graus
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        I have had pretty much 100% success in moving people from asp to ASP.NET, and from VB.NET to C#.

        Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )

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          RichardS wrote:

          Are there any server requirements for ASP.NET?

          MSDN Wrote

          ASP.NET Platform Requirements ASP.NET is supported on Windows 2000 (Professional, Server, and Advanced Server), Windows XP Professional, and the Windows Server 2003 family for both client and server applications. In addition, to develop ASP.NET server applications, the following software is also required: * Windows 2000 Server or Advanced Server with Service Pack 2, Windows XP Professional or 64-Bit Edition, or one of the Windows Server 2003 family products. * MDAC 2.7 for Data * Internet Information Services Note XML Web services created using ASP.NET support the same platforms supported by ASP.NET. XML Web service clients, however, are supported by all platforms supported by the Microsoft .NET Framework.

          The entire requirements and such can be found here[^]. Hope that helps :)

          "Okay, I give up: which is NOT a real programming language????" Michael Bergman

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          RichardS
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          Thanks. What is the difference between AJAX and ASP.NET?

          "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far the Universe is winning." -- Rich Cook

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            Hi All, I want to create a web site for taking users through a step-by-step process. Basically the user will choose an option in step 1, then depending on the option the next step will show a different set of options in step 2 (i.e. in step 1 there are options A and B, step 2 has options 1, 2 and 3. If user selects A, then options 1 and 3 are available. If user selects B, then options 2 and 3 are available). When the thing is finished it is going to be put into a normal html site as a link. My problem/question is that with so many different web technologies out there (PHP, ASP, .NET, ...), which is the best for doing this sort of thing? Thanks, Rich

            "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far the Universe is winning." -- Rich Cook

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            Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
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            .NET

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            • C Christian Graus

              I have had pretty much 100% success in moving people from asp to ASP.NET, and from VB.NET to C#.

              Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )

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              You are a genuine enlightener, then.

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                Hi All, I want to create a web site for taking users through a step-by-step process. Basically the user will choose an option in step 1, then depending on the option the next step will show a different set of options in step 2 (i.e. in step 1 there are options A and B, step 2 has options 1, 2 and 3. If user selects A, then options 1 and 3 are available. If user selects B, then options 2 and 3 are available). When the thing is finished it is going to be put into a normal html site as a link. My problem/question is that with so many different web technologies out there (PHP, ASP, .NET, ...), which is the best for doing this sort of thing? Thanks, Rich

                "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far the Universe is winning." -- Rich Cook

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                Bradml
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                I'm going to recommend using a simple JavaScript program to do this. You can find out more about javascript at http://www.htmlgoodies.com/primers/jsp/[^]. If that doesn't quite provide what you you are looking for then I honestly would recommend PHP. It will provide far better flexibility when it comes to which platform you use (supports Windows, Linux, Mac, Solaris and more). If you need any help with that feel free to contact me.


                Brad Australian - Christian Graus on "Best books for VBscript" A big thick one, so you can whack yourself on the head with it.

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                • R RichardS

                  Hi All, I want to create a web site for taking users through a step-by-step process. Basically the user will choose an option in step 1, then depending on the option the next step will show a different set of options in step 2 (i.e. in step 1 there are options A and B, step 2 has options 1, 2 and 3. If user selects A, then options 1 and 3 are available. If user selects B, then options 2 and 3 are available). When the thing is finished it is going to be put into a normal html site as a link. My problem/question is that with so many different web technologies out there (PHP, ASP, .NET, ...), which is the best for doing this sort of thing? Thanks, Rich

                  "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far the Universe is winning." -- Rich Cook

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                  RoswellNX
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                  The best way to go about this would probably be to use JavaScript and an HTML form, where the script would dynamically show or hide form radio buttons and their corresponding questions, depending on user's selection, using the CSS attribute display, and setting it to none and later to block, which you can tie to a boolean in the script, which saves you from redrawing the screen after each selection. The script would also keep score and after the user has completed each step, display the result. Roswell

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                  • R RichardS

                    Hi All, I want to create a web site for taking users through a step-by-step process. Basically the user will choose an option in step 1, then depending on the option the next step will show a different set of options in step 2 (i.e. in step 1 there are options A and B, step 2 has options 1, 2 and 3. If user selects A, then options 1 and 3 are available. If user selects B, then options 2 and 3 are available). When the thing is finished it is going to be put into a normal html site as a link. My problem/question is that with so many different web technologies out there (PHP, ASP, .NET, ...), which is the best for doing this sort of thing? Thanks, Rich

                    "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far the Universe is winning." -- Rich Cook

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                    originSH
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                    If you want an unbiased answer you'll probably want to to a web dev site ;) Asking on a .Net site is going to give you a predictable answer :P BTW personally I'd go with ASP.Net :D

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                      I'm going to recommend using a simple JavaScript program to do this. You can find out more about javascript at http://www.htmlgoodies.com/primers/jsp/[^]. If that doesn't quite provide what you you are looking for then I honestly would recommend PHP. It will provide far better flexibility when it comes to which platform you use (supports Windows, Linux, Mac, Solaris and more). If you need any help with that feel free to contact me.


                      Brad Australian - Christian Graus on "Best books for VBscript" A big thick one, so you can whack yourself on the head with it.

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                      RichardS
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                      Thanks. Will this also work if the steps are on different pages?

                      "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far the Universe is winning." -- Rich Cook

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                      • R RichardS

                        Thanks. Will this also work if the steps are on different pages?

                        "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far the Universe is winning." -- Rich Cook

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                        Bradml
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                        The javascript solution or the PHP one? And regarless perhaps you could be slightly more specific in what you are trying to do.

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                          If you want an unbiased answer you'll probably want to to a web dev site ;) Asking on a .Net site is going to give you a predictable answer :P BTW personally I'd go with ASP.Net :D

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                          RichardS
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                          Yeah, you are probably right, but then I would not get such great responses :cool:

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                            The javascript solution or the PHP one? And regarless perhaps you could be slightly more specific in what you are trying to do.

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                            The javascript one (as this is closer to my current knowlegde base). As mentioned in the original post, but each step has to be on a different page as each one has different graphics associated with it, mixing the graphics would cause a less nice display.

                            "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far the Universe is winning." -- Rich Cook

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                              Thanks. What is the difference between AJAX and ASP.NET?

                              "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far the Universe is winning." -- Rich Cook

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                              benjymous
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                              ASP.NET is a server side environment - all the scripts run on the server, and look to the web browser like regular static HTML AJAX stands for Asynchronous Javascript and XML - this has Javascript that runs on the client browser that requests server side scripts for new information (So the Javascript refreshes and rebuilds the page contents, rather than requesting a whole new page from the server)

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                                The javascript one (as this is closer to my current knowlegde base). As mentioned in the original post, but each step has to be on a different page as each one has different graphics associated with it, mixing the graphics would cause a less nice display.

                                "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far the Universe is winning." -- Rich Cook

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                                If you're good with javascript, I'd recommend you have a play with the mootools framework: http://www.mootools.net/[^] Here's an example combining server side PHP with an ajax front end for dealing with forms: http://demos.mootools.net/Ajax.Form[^]

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                                  The javascript one (as this is closer to my current knowlegde base). As mentioned in the original post, but each step has to be on a different page as each one has different graphics associated with it, mixing the graphics would cause a less nice display.

                                  "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far the Universe is winning." -- Rich Cook

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                                  Bradml
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                                  You are looking for a server side system then (like PHP, ASP.net) or a hell of a complicated Ajax system,.


                                  Brad Australian - Christian Graus on "Best books for VBscript" A big thick one, so you can whack yourself on the head with it.

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                                  • B benjymous

                                    If you're good with javascript, I'd recommend you have a play with the mootools framework: http://www.mootools.net/[^] Here's an example combining server side PHP with an ajax front end for dealing with forms: http://demos.mootools.net/Ajax.Form[^]

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                                    RichardS
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                                    Thanks for the links

                                    "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far the Universe is winning." -- Rich Cook

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                                    • B Bradml

                                      You are looking for a server side system then (like PHP, ASP.net) or a hell of a complicated Ajax system,.


                                      Brad Australian - Christian Graus on "Best books for VBscript" A big thick one, so you can whack yourself on the head with it.

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                                      RichardS
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                                      For the sounds of it the server side ASP.NET is the most flexable.

                                      "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far the Universe is winning." -- Rich Cook

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                                      • B Bradml

                                        You are looking for a server side system then (like PHP, ASP.net) or a hell of a complicated Ajax system,.


                                        Brad Australian - Christian Graus on "Best books for VBscript" A big thick one, so you can whack yourself on the head with it.

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                                        I've actually found using mootools that Ajaxy stuff becomes incredibly easy. - Look at the example I posted - you basically just add an event to the form that intercepts the regular submit, and sends the submit via ajax instead, piping the output from the server side php into the div of your choice on the existing page. To chain a set of pages, all you'd need to do is have each form submit the load of the next form, and refresh the main div on the page.

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                                        • R RichardS

                                          For the sounds of it the server side ASP.NET is the most flexable.

                                          "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far the Universe is winning." -- Rich Cook

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                                          Bradml
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                                          Hmm. No. Flexibility is not something you can tag ASP.net with. For a simple system like this either system will do. PHP does have a performance advantage over ASP.net, but you won't notice this on such a low level project.


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