Santa Cruz 'Mystery Spot'
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The fact that it is in your signature makes no difference its still a freebie advertisement/marketing ploy/scam call it whatever. The same link posted in an email would be called spam - there's another name for it!
Apathy Rules - I suppose...
Interestingly I ran an analysis last night on the lounge posts... 59% of signatures either point to a product for download that is free, for sale, a blog which talks about products for free and for sale and more, if you would like to see it. In fact, let’s look at one of CP's most prolific writers and posters. http://www.codeproject.com/lounge.asp?msg=2182543#xx2182543xx Are you planning on telling Mark that one of his links in his signature is to a page that sells a product? And that it is technically spam. Maybe you should forward the Media Kit link to him. In summation I think it is the content you don't like. My posts are relevant to the topic, and are free form. My signature points to a free service. If someone was to simply put an advertisement in a post response with no actual relation to the post, that I would define as spam. If you look at my posts in the lounge, all are related and generally received well. You should do some checking on your own before flaming me. Rather than just being a jerk. I would have thought being a developer yourself you may actually do a little analysis for yourself rather than just spout off. I was about to just let it go, but after some thought, it is clear you are just making an issue out of nothing! And I don't understand why exactly. Maybe when you create your own CP like or forum you can outlaw those signatures you would prefer to sensor.
Free new laptop giveaway ever 30 days. No strings, no spam... For legitimacy concerns, some of the people behind next2friends reside at Genetibase (^)
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Interestingly I ran an analysis last night on the lounge posts... 59% of signatures either point to a product for download that is free, for sale, a blog which talks about products for free and for sale and more, if you would like to see it. In fact, let’s look at one of CP's most prolific writers and posters. http://www.codeproject.com/lounge.asp?msg=2182543#xx2182543xx Are you planning on telling Mark that one of his links in his signature is to a page that sells a product? And that it is technically spam. Maybe you should forward the Media Kit link to him. In summation I think it is the content you don't like. My posts are relevant to the topic, and are free form. My signature points to a free service. If someone was to simply put an advertisement in a post response with no actual relation to the post, that I would define as spam. If you look at my posts in the lounge, all are related and generally received well. You should do some checking on your own before flaming me. Rather than just being a jerk. I would have thought being a developer yourself you may actually do a little analysis for yourself rather than just spout off. I was about to just let it go, but after some thought, it is clear you are just making an issue out of nothing! And I don't understand why exactly. Maybe when you create your own CP like or forum you can outlaw those signatures you would prefer to sensor.
Free new laptop giveaway ever 30 days. No strings, no spam... For legitimacy concerns, some of the people behind next2friends reside at Genetibase (^)
It would be nice to see in general a few people help me out on this. I mean really, these two are just flaming! Read my posts, read my signature, then compare to other more "popular" posters and writers, then be honest with yourself and let me know. What is the issue? Thanks in advance!
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The fact that it is in your signature makes no difference its still a freebie advertisement/marketing ploy/scam call it whatever. The same link posted in an email would be called spam - there's another name for it!
Apathy Rules - I suppose...
I think if the guy is providing a legitimate link to a legitimate company then it doesn't fall into the category of scam or spam. The guy's company is taking responsibility for the offer.. Think!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hamid
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Interestingly I ran an analysis last night on the lounge posts... 59% of signatures either point to a product for download that is free, for sale, a blog which talks about products for free and for sale and more, if you would like to see it. In fact, let’s look at one of CP's most prolific writers and posters. http://www.codeproject.com/lounge.asp?msg=2182543#xx2182543xx Are you planning on telling Mark that one of his links in his signature is to a page that sells a product? And that it is technically spam. Maybe you should forward the Media Kit link to him. In summation I think it is the content you don't like. My posts are relevant to the topic, and are free form. My signature points to a free service. If someone was to simply put an advertisement in a post response with no actual relation to the post, that I would define as spam. If you look at my posts in the lounge, all are related and generally received well. You should do some checking on your own before flaming me. Rather than just being a jerk. I would have thought being a developer yourself you may actually do a little analysis for yourself rather than just spout off. I was about to just let it go, but after some thought, it is clear you are just making an issue out of nothing! And I don't understand why exactly. Maybe when you create your own CP like or forum you can outlaw those signatures you would prefer to sensor.
Free new laptop giveaway ever 30 days. No strings, no spam... For legitimacy concerns, some of the people behind next2friends reside at Genetibase (^)
There is a big difference between people posting a link to their blog, or to a company they work for. Things like this:
Free new laptop giveaway ever 30 days. No strings, no spam... For legitimacy concerns, some of the people behind next2friends reside at Genetibase (^)
smells like spam or a scam, if your signiture was just
next2friends (^)
I wouldn't have a problem.
-Matt Newman
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It would be nice to see in general a few people help me out on this. I mean really, these two are just flaming! Read my posts, read my signature, then compare to other more "popular" posters and writers, then be honest with yourself and let me know. What is the issue? Thanks in advance!
carbonbaseone wrote:
these two are just flaming!
I'm not flaming :( - just making a point. your original post in this thread contains a link which directly follows your text, it implies that the link is related to the text, the fact that it is in your signature is neither here nor there since you use the same font for your signature who's to tell where it starts and ends. This and the fact that the link is to an advertisement however harmless or trivial makes either unsolicited marketing or spam in my book. If you had made it clear that the link was part of your signature then there would have been no problem, I would just have overlooked it - but of course then you wouldn't get so many hits on your site! Using your own example:- http://www.codeproject.com/lounge.asp?msg=2182543#xx2182543xx Obviously a link to a personal site I agree but separated from the text by a line and in a different font color to distinguish it. No Problem!! PS. I did not vote 1 for your posts - I don't object to what you are doing just the way you do it - as you say yourself pretty much everyone else is doing it - and there's nothing like a good arguement first thing in the morning to start the day off, right? :)
Apathy Rules - I suppose...
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There is a big difference between people posting a link to their blog, or to a company they work for. Things like this:
Free new laptop giveaway ever 30 days. No strings, no spam... For legitimacy concerns, some of the people behind next2friends reside at Genetibase (^)
smells like spam or a scam, if your signiture was just
next2friends (^)
I wouldn't have a problem.
-Matt Newman
You are still fighting me on this... Just concede already. Now it's about formatting. Make up your mind, or concede. The big difference you are talking about happens to apply to me. All you say above is what I did, did correctly.
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carbonbaseone wrote:
these two are just flaming!
I'm not flaming :( - just making a point. your original post in this thread contains a link which directly follows your text, it implies that the link is related to the text, the fact that it is in your signature is neither here nor there since you use the same font for your signature who's to tell where it starts and ends. This and the fact that the link is to an advertisement however harmless or trivial makes either unsolicited marketing or spam in my book. If you had made it clear that the link was part of your signature then there would have been no problem, I would just have overlooked it - but of course then you wouldn't get so many hits on your site! Using your own example:- http://www.codeproject.com/lounge.asp?msg=2182543#xx2182543xx Obviously a link to a personal site I agree but separated from the text by a line and in a different font color to distinguish it. No Problem!! PS. I did not vote 1 for your posts - I don't object to what you are doing just the way you do it - as you say yourself pretty much everyone else is doing it - and there's nothing like a good arguement first thing in the morning to start the day off, right? :)
Apathy Rules - I suppose...
I agree solely with your argument mention. Other than that I think you should concede with me. Thanks
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carbonbaseone wrote:
these two are just flaming!
I'm not flaming :( - just making a point. your original post in this thread contains a link which directly follows your text, it implies that the link is related to the text, the fact that it is in your signature is neither here nor there since you use the same font for your signature who's to tell where it starts and ends. This and the fact that the link is to an advertisement however harmless or trivial makes either unsolicited marketing or spam in my book. If you had made it clear that the link was part of your signature then there would have been no problem, I would just have overlooked it - but of course then you wouldn't get so many hits on your site! Using your own example:- http://www.codeproject.com/lounge.asp?msg=2182543#xx2182543xx Obviously a link to a personal site I agree but separated from the text by a line and in a different font color to distinguish it. No Problem!! PS. I did not vote 1 for your posts - I don't object to what you are doing just the way you do it - as you say yourself pretty much everyone else is doing it - and there's nothing like a good arguement first thing in the morning to start the day off, right? :)
Apathy Rules - I suppose...
Wow, I still take offense... You are implying I didn't create a clear separation between my text and the signature... Unbelievable... You are wrong, no intention on my part. And I just post my signature in the signature portion of the post mechanism. I do not control how close it is placed to the post text. Thanks... P.S. What's up with jabs???
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I agree solely with your argument mention. Other than that I think you should concede with me. Thanks
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I already agreed with you!!! :sigh: There is nothing wrong with your link providing it doesn't 'appear' to be part of the text which it does. :)
Apathy Rules - I suppose...
Thanks... Good to be resolved. Want to win a free laptop??? (JOKE)
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There is a big difference between people posting a link to their blog, or to a company they work for. Things like this:
Free new laptop giveaway ever 30 days. No strings, no spam... For legitimacy concerns, some of the people behind next2friends reside at Genetibase (^)
smells like spam or a scam, if your signiture was just
next2friends (^)
I wouldn't have a problem.
-Matt Newman
Too bad you didn't just say that in the beginning.
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Wow, I still take offense... You are implying I didn't create a clear separation between my text and the signature... Unbelievable... You are wrong, no intention on my part. And I just post my signature in the signature portion of the post mechanism. I do not control how close it is placed to the post text. Thanks... P.S. What's up with jabs???
carbonbaseone wrote:
You are implying I didn't create a clear separation between my text and the signature
Fact: There was no clear separation - on first viewing the link appears to be a part of the text. Intentional or not. That is my point.
carbonbaseone wrote:
You are wrong, no intention on my part
I didn't say you did it intentionally, how do I know whether you did or not? Go back to your research - how many of your 59% of signature links are in a different color/font or separated by a line? I think you will find all of them. I don't know what you are offended by its a perfectly valid point to make about your post not about you. :) PS I don't know what you mean by jabs??
Apathy Rules - I suppose...
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Thanks... Good to be resolved. Want to win a free laptop??? (JOKE)
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carbonbaseone wrote:
You are implying I didn't create a clear separation between my text and the signature
Fact: There was no clear separation - on first viewing the link appears to be a part of the text. Intentional or not. That is my point.
carbonbaseone wrote:
You are wrong, no intention on my part
I didn't say you did it intentionally, how do I know whether you did or not? Go back to your research - how many of your 59% of signature links are in a different color/font or separated by a line? I think you will find all of them. I don't know what you are offended by its a perfectly valid point to make about your post not about you. :) PS I don't know what you mean by jabs??
Apathy Rules - I suppose...
Ok, fair enough... I didn't calculate that variable. I will run that tonight and get the number. In fact in my example, no clear seperation is present. (Mark's) THanks
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Ok, fair enough... I didn't calculate that variable. I will run that tonight and get the number. In fact in my example, no clear seperation is present. (Mark's) THanks
carbonbaseone wrote:
In fact in my example, no clear seperation is present.
Actually there is a line and the links are definitely a ... ah, what the hell, can't be bothered to argue anymore ... its obviously very important to you - go ahead have the last word, I totally agree with anything you have to say OK? :|
Apathy Rules - I suppose...
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carbonbaseone wrote:
In fact in my example, no clear seperation is present.
Actually there is a line and the links are definitely a ... ah, what the hell, can't be bothered to argue anymore ... its obviously very important to you - go ahead have the last word, I totally agree with anything you have to say OK? :|
Apathy Rules - I suppose...
I don't need the last word. Accuracy is important to me (regarding comments) as it should be to all. No need for patronization either. My browser doesn't seem to render those lines.
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You are still fighting me on this... Just concede already. Now it's about formatting. Make up your mind, or concede. The big difference you are talking about happens to apply to me. All you say above is what I did, did correctly.
I think it still sounds like a scam
-Matt Newman
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I think it still sounds like a scam
-Matt Newman
Sounds like or you think it is?
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I think it still sounds like a scam
-Matt Newman
You are not very consistent... 1. It's a scam shouldn't be in signature 2. Would be fine if formatted differently 3. It's a scam. lol
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You are not very consistent... 1. It's a scam shouldn't be in signature 2. Would be fine if formatted differently 3. It's a scam. lol
I've been very consistent in saying it sounds like a scam.
-Matt Newman