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John Morales wrote: She describes Iran as a country where the people wish to become more westernized or at least have broader access to western markets, technology and ideas but the ruling body is dictatorial in its religious interpretations of Islam. I know her and really like her,I 've seen some of her reports in CNN. I believe she is right,people want those things but government because of its own dictatorship does not accept it and force people in every things that you can think of.(freedom,technology,education,....) Here is like Europe in century of .....(I don't know the english name....like 600-700 years ago,what it is called in english?) We need kind of revolution for it. I hope none of goverment people see this because they send me to jail. :( Mazy "The more I search, the more my need For you, The more I bless, the more I bleed For you."The Outlaw Torn-Metallica
Mazdak wrote: but government because of its own dictatorship does not accept it and force people in every things that you can think of.( You are talking about the dictatorship i.e hard policies of your government. Since Iran is a very good friend of Pakistan, here we consider this "dictatorship" as the "internal affair" of Iran. Still what i believe is that there are different kind of opinions among different group of people in Iran. Its not easy for the current government to change everything overnight, because hardliners can launch strong protests. By the way the best feature of your "dictatorship" is that it never cares about the "dictation" given by US. Imran Farooqui
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John Morales wrote: She describes Iran as a country where the people wish to become more westernized or at least have broader access to western markets, technology and ideas but the ruling body is dictatorial in its religious interpretations of Islam. I know her and really like her,I 've seen some of her reports in CNN. I believe she is right,people want those things but government because of its own dictatorship does not accept it and force people in every things that you can think of.(freedom,technology,education,....) Here is like Europe in century of .....(I don't know the english name....like 600-700 years ago,what it is called in english?) We need kind of revolution for it. I hope none of goverment people see this because they send me to jail. :( Mazy "The more I search, the more my need For you, The more I bless, the more I bleed For you."The Outlaw Torn-Metallica
We used to have this in Romania also. Fortunatelly we got rid of the dictatorship... Best regards, Alexandru Savescu
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John Morales wrote: With the recent history (30+ years) of bad relations between the USA and Iran USA government already labeled Iran as a part of "Axis of evil". Iran recently conducts missile tests of "Shahab" missile series and USA condemns it. Interesting to note that Israel has already constructed destructive weapons but USA didn't taken notice about them. Iran is only country in this region that is capable of looking eye-ball to eye-ball in front of US. Whether US is right or Iran....God knows only Imran Farooqui
Iran is only country in this region that is capable of looking eye-ball to eye-ball in front of US You are of course kidding - right ? If not you are at best delusioned. Iran had enough trouble with Iraq. Dream on bro. Dream on. Richard Monarchies, aristocracies, and religions....there was never a country where the majority of the people were in their secret hearts loyal to any of these institutions. Mark Twain - The Mysterious Stranger
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Mazdak wrote: Here is like Europe in century of .....(I don't know the english name....like 600-700 years ago,what it is called in english?) Middle Ages? -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit!
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Mazdak wrote: but government because of its own dictatorship does not accept it and force people in every things that you can think of.( You are talking about the dictatorship i.e hard policies of your government. Since Iran is a very good friend of Pakistan, here we consider this "dictatorship" as the "internal affair" of Iran. Still what i believe is that there are different kind of opinions among different group of people in Iran. Its not easy for the current government to change everything overnight, because hardliners can launch strong protests. By the way the best feature of your "dictatorship" is that it never cares about the "dictation" given by US. Imran Farooqui
Imran Farooqui wrote: By the way the best feature of your "dictatorship" is that it never cares about the "dictation" given by US. Yes,but its not because of people country,it's because of their own dictatorship,its hard for me to discribe it in English but thats something for theirself not for people. Mazy "The more I search, the more my need For you, The more I bless, the more I bleed For you."The Outlaw Torn-Metallica
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John Morales wrote: With the recent history (30+ years) of bad relations between the USA and Iran USA government already labeled Iran as a part of "Axis of evil". Iran recently conducts missile tests of "Shahab" missile series and USA condemns it. Interesting to note that Israel has already constructed destructive weapons but USA didn't taken notice about them. Iran is only country in this region that is capable of looking eye-ball to eye-ball in front of US. Whether US is right or Iran....God knows only Imran Farooqui
Imran Farooqui wrote: Iran recently conducts missile tests of "Shahab" missile series and USA condemns it. Interesting to note that Israel has already constructed destructive weapons but USA didn't taken notice about them. Iran is only country in this region that is capable of looking eye-ball to eye-ball in front of US. You make me laugh man,we test that missle ,but its kind of toy in front USA missles.Be sure about that we can't do anything in front of US military. :) Mazy "The more I search, the more my need For you, The more I bless, the more I bleed For you."The Outlaw Torn-Metallica
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Iran is only country in this region that is capable of looking eye-ball to eye-ball in front of US You are of course kidding - right ? If not you are at best delusioned. Iran had enough trouble with Iraq. Dream on bro. Dream on. Richard Monarchies, aristocracies, and religions....there was never a country where the majority of the people were in their secret hearts loyal to any of these institutions. Mark Twain - The Mysterious Stranger
Richard Stringer wrote: You are of course kidding - right ? No man not at all. Richard Stringer wrote: If not you are at best delusioned Actually you didn't get my statement correctly. You know that these days there are some news that USA plans to attack on Iran. In this connection few protests taken place in Iran where leaders boldly stated that "Iran knows how to teach lesson to US". Now you again read my statement regarding "eye-ball to eye-ball" you'll definitely understand what i mean to say. Richard Stringer wrote: . Iran had enough trouble with Iraq. Dream on bro. Dream on. Now what this has to take here ??? Imran Farooqui
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We used to have this in Romania also. Fortunatelly we got rid of the dictatorship... Best regards, Alexandru Savescu
****Alexpro wrote: We used to have this in Romania also. Fortunatelly we got rid of the dictatorship... So you can understand what I say? :) Mazy "The more I search, the more my need For you, The more I bless, the more I bleed For you."The Outlaw Torn-Metallica
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Mazdak wrote: but government because of its own dictatorship does not accept it and force people in every things that you can think of.( You are talking about the dictatorship i.e hard policies of your government. Since Iran is a very good friend of Pakistan, here we consider this "dictatorship" as the "internal affair" of Iran. Still what i believe is that there are different kind of opinions among different group of people in Iran. Its not easy for the current government to change everything overnight, because hardliners can launch strong protests. By the way the best feature of your "dictatorship" is that it never cares about the "dictation" given by US. Imran Farooqui
Imran Farooqui wrote: here we consider this "dictatorship" as the "internal affair" of Iran Isn't that the same way in which you (Pakistan) viewed the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait ? Would it not be more inline with Islamic beliefs to examine the way in which the Iranian dictatorship treats its citizens, and if the citizens are found to be badily treated, with no hope of democratically changing their own circumstances to reexamine your relationship with Iran ? Regards Ray "Je Suis Mort De Rire"
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Imran Farooqui wrote: Iran recently conducts missile tests of "Shahab" missile series and USA condemns it. Interesting to note that Israel has already constructed destructive weapons but USA didn't taken notice about them. Iran is only country in this region that is capable of looking eye-ball to eye-ball in front of US. You make me laugh man,we test that missle ,but its kind of toy in front USA missles.Be sure about that we can't do anything in front of US military. :) Mazy "The more I search, the more my need For you, The more I bless, the more I bleed For you."The Outlaw Torn-Metallica
Mazdak wrote: its kind of toy in front USA missles Yes it is but its testing has a deeeeeeepppp impact on US. USA definitely consider this missile as a direct threat to Israel. Imran Farooqui
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****Alexpro wrote: We used to have this in Romania also. Fortunatelly we got rid of the dictatorship... So you can understand what I say? :) Mazy "The more I search, the more my need For you, The more I bless, the more I bleed For you."The Outlaw Torn-Metallica
Yes, but we are still a long way to go before we become a developed country. :( Best regards, Alexandru Savescu
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Imran Farooqui wrote: here we consider this "dictatorship" as the "internal affair" of Iran Isn't that the same way in which you (Pakistan) viewed the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait ? Would it not be more inline with Islamic beliefs to examine the way in which the Iranian dictatorship treats its citizens, and if the citizens are found to be badily treated, with no hope of democratically changing their own circumstances to reexamine your relationship with Iran ? Regards Ray "Je Suis Mort De Rire"
Ray Kinsella wrote: Isn't that the same way in which you (Pakistan) viewed the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait ? During Kuwait crisis Pakistan was an ally of US (as always). Pakistan also sent its troops for the protection purposes in Saudi Arabia. Actually Ray, its not a "country" or a "nation" that is an ally of US. It is the "government" of a country/nation that is an ally of US. Pakistan government treated the relation with Iran and Iraq differently. Iran has a common border with Pakistan, Iraq hasn't and thats why priorities are different. Ray Kinsella wrote: Would it not be more inline with Islamic beliefs to examine the way in which the Iranian dictatorship treats its citizens If the citizens are happy and satisfied then no one reserve right to criticize them. I know that majority of people in Iran want to make it a modern, progressive Islamic state. Eventually, Iran will follow this path. Islam is misinterpreted when mixed with culture. Every Islamic country has its own local culture which has to take nothing with the religion. The way Afghan women lead her life is a part of culture and not necessarily religion. Ray Kinsella wrote: no hope of democratically changing their own circumstances to reexamine your relationship with Iran ? Pakistan relations with China and Iran are so good that we usually don't interfere in their affairs. Every where in the world both, China and Iran are criticized regarding human rights more than any one else. Pakistan is the only country that consider these matters as an Internal Affairs of their countries Imran Farooqui
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Mazdak wrote: its kind of toy in front USA missles Yes it is but its testing has a deeeeeeepppp impact on US. USA definitely consider this missile as a direct threat to Israel. Imran Farooqui
Personally, I get tired of reading article after article in my American papers about "peace in the Middle East". I think the only practical path to peace in that region is to erect a big wall around all the countries, give everyone as many weapons as they want, lock the door, and throw away the key. In the end, some group will have wiped out every other group, and then you'll have peace. Peace in the Middle East is a joke. None of the countries there truly want peace. What they want is not to establish benevolent and tolerant relations between all the countries in the region, but rather for their adversaries to simply disappear. Until that attitude changes, peace talks are a waste of time and the area will continually be plagued with wars, violence and repression. Personally, I'd rather see my tax dollars spent on our own issues instead of wasting them interfering with countries who don't want peace to begin with. Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)
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Personally, I get tired of reading article after article in my American papers about "peace in the Middle East". I think the only practical path to peace in that region is to erect a big wall around all the countries, give everyone as many weapons as they want, lock the door, and throw away the key. In the end, some group will have wiped out every other group, and then you'll have peace. Peace in the Middle East is a joke. None of the countries there truly want peace. What they want is not to establish benevolent and tolerant relations between all the countries in the region, but rather for their adversaries to simply disappear. Until that attitude changes, peace talks are a waste of time and the area will continually be plagued with wars, violence and repression. Personally, I'd rather see my tax dollars spent on our own issues instead of wasting them interfering with countries who don't want peace to begin with. Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)
Christopher Duncan wrote: I get tired of reading article after article in my American papers about "peace in the Middle East Make slight change in this statement man. You are not alone fed up with this scenario. Add me also. :-D Christopher Duncan wrote: Peace in the Middle East is a joke Some one here at CP few days ago, wrote a beautiful quote: "One man's vision of Utopia is another's vision to Hell" So, thats the problem b/w countries in Middle East. Imran Farooqui
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Christopher Duncan wrote: I get tired of reading article after article in my American papers about "peace in the Middle East Make slight change in this statement man. You are not alone fed up with this scenario. Add me also. :-D Christopher Duncan wrote: Peace in the Middle East is a joke Some one here at CP few days ago, wrote a beautiful quote: "One man's vision of Utopia is another's vision to Hell" So, thats the problem b/w countries in Middle East. Imran Farooqui
Yeah, it's just so frustrating. Humanity has finally reached a point where we have the technology and the means such that no person on the planet truly needs to go without. And yet, worldwide, nations won't play nice long enough to make that happen. Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)
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Mazdak wrote: its kind of toy in front USA missles Yes it is but its testing has a deeeeeeepppp impact on US. USA definitely consider this missile as a direct threat to Israel. Imran Farooqui
Imran Farooqui wrote: USA definitely consider this missile as a direct threat to Israel. I think they exaggerate it because of political reason. Mazy "The more I search, the more my need For you, The more I bless, the more I bleed For you."The Outlaw Torn-Metallica
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Personally, I get tired of reading article after article in my American papers about "peace in the Middle East". I think the only practical path to peace in that region is to erect a big wall around all the countries, give everyone as many weapons as they want, lock the door, and throw away the key. In the end, some group will have wiped out every other group, and then you'll have peace. Peace in the Middle East is a joke. None of the countries there truly want peace. What they want is not to establish benevolent and tolerant relations between all the countries in the region, but rather for their adversaries to simply disappear. Until that attitude changes, peace talks are a waste of time and the area will continually be plagued with wars, violence and repression. Personally, I'd rather see my tax dollars spent on our own issues instead of wasting them interfering with countries who don't want peace to begin with. Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)
Christopher Duncan wrote: I think the only practical path to peace in that region is to erect a big wall around all the countries, give everyone as many weapons as they want, lock the door, and throw away the key. In the end, some group will have wiped out every other group, and then you'll have peace. LOL :laugh: :laugh: Yes,thats a fact. Mazy "The more I search, the more my need For you, The more I bless, the more I bleed For you."The Outlaw Torn-Metallica
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Mazdak wrote: but government because of its own dictatorship does not accept it and force people in every things that you can think of.( You are talking about the dictatorship i.e hard policies of your government. Since Iran is a very good friend of Pakistan, here we consider this "dictatorship" as the "internal affair" of Iran. Still what i believe is that there are different kind of opinions among different group of people in Iran. Its not easy for the current government to change everything overnight, because hardliners can launch strong protests. By the way the best feature of your "dictatorship" is that it never cares about the "dictation" given by US. Imran Farooqui
By the way the best feature of your "dictatorship" is that it never cares about the "dictation" given by US. "Dictation" given by the US is not the correct term. There simply is not one country in the entire world that follows exactly what the US says. (This idea of "dictation" is largely a ploy by the status-quo in a particular country to maintain power - by creating fear that if they leave power, the country's next regime will do whatever the US wants. But, as I've explained, there aren't any examples in the whole world of any government having their policies dictated by the US.)
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Richard Stringer wrote: You are of course kidding - right ? No man not at all. Richard Stringer wrote: If not you are at best delusioned Actually you didn't get my statement correctly. You know that these days there are some news that USA plans to attack on Iran. In this connection few protests taken place in Iran where leaders boldly stated that "Iran knows how to teach lesson to US". Now you again read my statement regarding "eye-ball to eye-ball" you'll definitely understand what i mean to say. Richard Stringer wrote: . Iran had enough trouble with Iraq. Dream on bro. Dream on. Now what this has to take here ??? Imran Farooqui
You know that these days there are some news that USA plans to attack on Iran. In this connection few protests taken place in Iran where leaders boldly stated that "Iran knows how to teach lesson to US" Where do you get your news? There's virtually zero chance of the US making an attack on Iran. Any news to the contrary is largely fear-mongering to create support for the existing government.
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Personally, I get tired of reading article after article in my American papers about "peace in the Middle East". I think the only practical path to peace in that region is to erect a big wall around all the countries, give everyone as many weapons as they want, lock the door, and throw away the key. In the end, some group will have wiped out every other group, and then you'll have peace. Peace in the Middle East is a joke. None of the countries there truly want peace. What they want is not to establish benevolent and tolerant relations between all the countries in the region, but rather for their adversaries to simply disappear. Until that attitude changes, peace talks are a waste of time and the area will continually be plagued with wars, violence and repression. Personally, I'd rather see my tax dollars spent on our own issues instead of wasting them interfering with countries who don't want peace to begin with. Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)
Christopher Duncan wrote: I think the only practical path to peace in that region is to erect a big wall around all the countries, give everyone as many weapons as they want, lock the door, and throw away the key. In the end, some group will have wiped out every other group, and then you'll have peace. Often I think that way as well. Christopher Duncan wrote: Personally, I'd rather see my tax dollars spent on our own issues instead of wasting them interfering with countries who don't want peace to begin with. I also wish this also, Unfortunatly a lot of your diplomatic missions are pushed by trade lobbyists. If you could stop them the meddling would stop as well. Regardz Colin J Davies
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