Iran?
-
John Morales wrote: With the recent history (30+ years) of bad relations between the USA and Iran USA government already labeled Iran as a part of "Axis of evil". Iran recently conducts missile tests of "Shahab" missile series and USA condemns it. Interesting to note that Israel has already constructed destructive weapons but USA didn't taken notice about them. Iran is only country in this region that is capable of looking eye-ball to eye-ball in front of US. Whether US is right or Iran....God knows only Imran Farooqui
Imran Farooqui wrote: Iran recently conducts missile tests of "Shahab" missile series and USA condemns it. Interesting to note that Israel has already constructed destructive weapons but USA didn't taken notice about them. Iran is only country in this region that is capable of looking eye-ball to eye-ball in front of US. You make me laugh man,we test that missle ,but its kind of toy in front USA missles.Be sure about that we can't do anything in front of US military. :) Mazy "The more I search, the more my need For you, The more I bless, the more I bleed For you."The Outlaw Torn-Metallica
-
Iran is only country in this region that is capable of looking eye-ball to eye-ball in front of US You are of course kidding - right ? If not you are at best delusioned. Iran had enough trouble with Iraq. Dream on bro. Dream on. Richard Monarchies, aristocracies, and religions....there was never a country where the majority of the people were in their secret hearts loyal to any of these institutions. Mark Twain - The Mysterious Stranger
Richard Stringer wrote: You are of course kidding - right ? No man not at all. Richard Stringer wrote: If not you are at best delusioned Actually you didn't get my statement correctly. You know that these days there are some news that USA plans to attack on Iran. In this connection few protests taken place in Iran where leaders boldly stated that "Iran knows how to teach lesson to US". Now you again read my statement regarding "eye-ball to eye-ball" you'll definitely understand what i mean to say. Richard Stringer wrote: . Iran had enough trouble with Iraq. Dream on bro. Dream on. Now what this has to take here ??? Imran Farooqui
-
We used to have this in Romania also. Fortunatelly we got rid of the dictatorship... Best regards, Alexandru Savescu
****Alexpro wrote: We used to have this in Romania also. Fortunatelly we got rid of the dictatorship... So you can understand what I say? :) Mazy "The more I search, the more my need For you, The more I bless, the more I bleed For you."The Outlaw Torn-Metallica
-
Mazdak wrote: but government because of its own dictatorship does not accept it and force people in every things that you can think of.( You are talking about the dictatorship i.e hard policies of your government. Since Iran is a very good friend of Pakistan, here we consider this "dictatorship" as the "internal affair" of Iran. Still what i believe is that there are different kind of opinions among different group of people in Iran. Its not easy for the current government to change everything overnight, because hardliners can launch strong protests. By the way the best feature of your "dictatorship" is that it never cares about the "dictation" given by US. Imran Farooqui
Imran Farooqui wrote: here we consider this "dictatorship" as the "internal affair" of Iran Isn't that the same way in which you (Pakistan) viewed the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait ? Would it not be more inline with Islamic beliefs to examine the way in which the Iranian dictatorship treats its citizens, and if the citizens are found to be badily treated, with no hope of democratically changing their own circumstances to reexamine your relationship with Iran ? Regards Ray "Je Suis Mort De Rire"
-
Imran Farooqui wrote: Iran recently conducts missile tests of "Shahab" missile series and USA condemns it. Interesting to note that Israel has already constructed destructive weapons but USA didn't taken notice about them. Iran is only country in this region that is capable of looking eye-ball to eye-ball in front of US. You make me laugh man,we test that missle ,but its kind of toy in front USA missles.Be sure about that we can't do anything in front of US military. :) Mazy "The more I search, the more my need For you, The more I bless, the more I bleed For you."The Outlaw Torn-Metallica
Mazdak wrote: its kind of toy in front USA missles Yes it is but its testing has a deeeeeeepppp impact on US. USA definitely consider this missile as a direct threat to Israel. Imran Farooqui
-
****Alexpro wrote: We used to have this in Romania also. Fortunatelly we got rid of the dictatorship... So you can understand what I say? :) Mazy "The more I search, the more my need For you, The more I bless, the more I bleed For you."The Outlaw Torn-Metallica
Yes, but we are still a long way to go before we become a developed country. :( Best regards, Alexandru Savescu
-
Imran Farooqui wrote: here we consider this "dictatorship" as the "internal affair" of Iran Isn't that the same way in which you (Pakistan) viewed the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait ? Would it not be more inline with Islamic beliefs to examine the way in which the Iranian dictatorship treats its citizens, and if the citizens are found to be badily treated, with no hope of democratically changing their own circumstances to reexamine your relationship with Iran ? Regards Ray "Je Suis Mort De Rire"
Ray Kinsella wrote: Isn't that the same way in which you (Pakistan) viewed the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait ? During Kuwait crisis Pakistan was an ally of US (as always). Pakistan also sent its troops for the protection purposes in Saudi Arabia. Actually Ray, its not a "country" or a "nation" that is an ally of US. It is the "government" of a country/nation that is an ally of US. Pakistan government treated the relation with Iran and Iraq differently. Iran has a common border with Pakistan, Iraq hasn't and thats why priorities are different. Ray Kinsella wrote: Would it not be more inline with Islamic beliefs to examine the way in which the Iranian dictatorship treats its citizens If the citizens are happy and satisfied then no one reserve right to criticize them. I know that majority of people in Iran want to make it a modern, progressive Islamic state. Eventually, Iran will follow this path. Islam is misinterpreted when mixed with culture. Every Islamic country has its own local culture which has to take nothing with the religion. The way Afghan women lead her life is a part of culture and not necessarily religion. Ray Kinsella wrote: no hope of democratically changing their own circumstances to reexamine your relationship with Iran ? Pakistan relations with China and Iran are so good that we usually don't interfere in their affairs. Every where in the world both, China and Iran are criticized regarding human rights more than any one else. Pakistan is the only country that consider these matters as an Internal Affairs of their countries Imran Farooqui
-
Mazdak wrote: its kind of toy in front USA missles Yes it is but its testing has a deeeeeeepppp impact on US. USA definitely consider this missile as a direct threat to Israel. Imran Farooqui
Personally, I get tired of reading article after article in my American papers about "peace in the Middle East". I think the only practical path to peace in that region is to erect a big wall around all the countries, give everyone as many weapons as they want, lock the door, and throw away the key. In the end, some group will have wiped out every other group, and then you'll have peace. Peace in the Middle East is a joke. None of the countries there truly want peace. What they want is not to establish benevolent and tolerant relations between all the countries in the region, but rather for their adversaries to simply disappear. Until that attitude changes, peace talks are a waste of time and the area will continually be plagued with wars, violence and repression. Personally, I'd rather see my tax dollars spent on our own issues instead of wasting them interfering with countries who don't want peace to begin with. Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)
-
Personally, I get tired of reading article after article in my American papers about "peace in the Middle East". I think the only practical path to peace in that region is to erect a big wall around all the countries, give everyone as many weapons as they want, lock the door, and throw away the key. In the end, some group will have wiped out every other group, and then you'll have peace. Peace in the Middle East is a joke. None of the countries there truly want peace. What they want is not to establish benevolent and tolerant relations between all the countries in the region, but rather for their adversaries to simply disappear. Until that attitude changes, peace talks are a waste of time and the area will continually be plagued with wars, violence and repression. Personally, I'd rather see my tax dollars spent on our own issues instead of wasting them interfering with countries who don't want peace to begin with. Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)
Christopher Duncan wrote: I get tired of reading article after article in my American papers about "peace in the Middle East Make slight change in this statement man. You are not alone fed up with this scenario. Add me also. :-D Christopher Duncan wrote: Peace in the Middle East is a joke Some one here at CP few days ago, wrote a beautiful quote: "One man's vision of Utopia is another's vision to Hell" So, thats the problem b/w countries in Middle East. Imran Farooqui
-
Christopher Duncan wrote: I get tired of reading article after article in my American papers about "peace in the Middle East Make slight change in this statement man. You are not alone fed up with this scenario. Add me also. :-D Christopher Duncan wrote: Peace in the Middle East is a joke Some one here at CP few days ago, wrote a beautiful quote: "One man's vision of Utopia is another's vision to Hell" So, thats the problem b/w countries in Middle East. Imran Farooqui
Yeah, it's just so frustrating. Humanity has finally reached a point where we have the technology and the means such that no person on the planet truly needs to go without. And yet, worldwide, nations won't play nice long enough to make that happen. Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)
-
Mazdak wrote: its kind of toy in front USA missles Yes it is but its testing has a deeeeeeepppp impact on US. USA definitely consider this missile as a direct threat to Israel. Imran Farooqui
Imran Farooqui wrote: USA definitely consider this missile as a direct threat to Israel. I think they exaggerate it because of political reason. Mazy "The more I search, the more my need For you, The more I bless, the more I bleed For you."The Outlaw Torn-Metallica
-
Personally, I get tired of reading article after article in my American papers about "peace in the Middle East". I think the only practical path to peace in that region is to erect a big wall around all the countries, give everyone as many weapons as they want, lock the door, and throw away the key. In the end, some group will have wiped out every other group, and then you'll have peace. Peace in the Middle East is a joke. None of the countries there truly want peace. What they want is not to establish benevolent and tolerant relations between all the countries in the region, but rather for their adversaries to simply disappear. Until that attitude changes, peace talks are a waste of time and the area will continually be plagued with wars, violence and repression. Personally, I'd rather see my tax dollars spent on our own issues instead of wasting them interfering with countries who don't want peace to begin with. Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)
Christopher Duncan wrote: I think the only practical path to peace in that region is to erect a big wall around all the countries, give everyone as many weapons as they want, lock the door, and throw away the key. In the end, some group will have wiped out every other group, and then you'll have peace. LOL :laugh: :laugh: Yes,thats a fact. Mazy "The more I search, the more my need For you, The more I bless, the more I bleed For you."The Outlaw Torn-Metallica
-
Mazdak wrote: but government because of its own dictatorship does not accept it and force people in every things that you can think of.( You are talking about the dictatorship i.e hard policies of your government. Since Iran is a very good friend of Pakistan, here we consider this "dictatorship" as the "internal affair" of Iran. Still what i believe is that there are different kind of opinions among different group of people in Iran. Its not easy for the current government to change everything overnight, because hardliners can launch strong protests. By the way the best feature of your "dictatorship" is that it never cares about the "dictation" given by US. Imran Farooqui
By the way the best feature of your "dictatorship" is that it never cares about the "dictation" given by US. "Dictation" given by the US is not the correct term. There simply is not one country in the entire world that follows exactly what the US says. (This idea of "dictation" is largely a ploy by the status-quo in a particular country to maintain power - by creating fear that if they leave power, the country's next regime will do whatever the US wants. But, as I've explained, there aren't any examples in the whole world of any government having their policies dictated by the US.)
-
Richard Stringer wrote: You are of course kidding - right ? No man not at all. Richard Stringer wrote: If not you are at best delusioned Actually you didn't get my statement correctly. You know that these days there are some news that USA plans to attack on Iran. In this connection few protests taken place in Iran where leaders boldly stated that "Iran knows how to teach lesson to US". Now you again read my statement regarding "eye-ball to eye-ball" you'll definitely understand what i mean to say. Richard Stringer wrote: . Iran had enough trouble with Iraq. Dream on bro. Dream on. Now what this has to take here ??? Imran Farooqui
You know that these days there are some news that USA plans to attack on Iran. In this connection few protests taken place in Iran where leaders boldly stated that "Iran knows how to teach lesson to US" Where do you get your news? There's virtually zero chance of the US making an attack on Iran. Any news to the contrary is largely fear-mongering to create support for the existing government.
-
Personally, I get tired of reading article after article in my American papers about "peace in the Middle East". I think the only practical path to peace in that region is to erect a big wall around all the countries, give everyone as many weapons as they want, lock the door, and throw away the key. In the end, some group will have wiped out every other group, and then you'll have peace. Peace in the Middle East is a joke. None of the countries there truly want peace. What they want is not to establish benevolent and tolerant relations between all the countries in the region, but rather for their adversaries to simply disappear. Until that attitude changes, peace talks are a waste of time and the area will continually be plagued with wars, violence and repression. Personally, I'd rather see my tax dollars spent on our own issues instead of wasting them interfering with countries who don't want peace to begin with. Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)
Christopher Duncan wrote: I think the only practical path to peace in that region is to erect a big wall around all the countries, give everyone as many weapons as they want, lock the door, and throw away the key. In the end, some group will have wiped out every other group, and then you'll have peace. Often I think that way as well. Christopher Duncan wrote: Personally, I'd rather see my tax dollars spent on our own issues instead of wasting them interfering with countries who don't want peace to begin with. I also wish this also, Unfortunatly a lot of your diplomatic missions are pushed by trade lobbyists. If you could stop them the meddling would stop as well. Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
More about me :-)
-
John Morales wrote: With the recent history (30+ years) of bad relations between the USA and Iran USA government already labeled Iran as a part of "Axis of evil". Iran recently conducts missile tests of "Shahab" missile series and USA condemns it. Interesting to note that Israel has already constructed destructive weapons but USA didn't taken notice about them. Iran is only country in this region that is capable of looking eye-ball to eye-ball in front of US. Whether US is right or Iran....God knows only Imran Farooqui
USA government already labeled Iran as a part of "Axis of evil". Iran recently conducts missile tests of "Shahab" missile series and USA condemns it. Well, Iran has been shouting "Death to the US" for twenty years now, and it's religious/government leaders say that Israel is a cancer that needs to be cut-out completely from the earth. Additionally, it pays a great deal of money to terrorist groups, and has for a long time. What's wrong with them becoming a nuclear power with missles capable of reaching Israel? Iran seems to know a great deal about taking a hard-line on issues and using violence. The worst thing is to give Iran the ability to carry out this violence. The problem with religous regimes, in general, is that they tend to be illogical and intolerant (even Europe went through it's religious wars but at least they didn't have nukes). Interesting to note that Israel has already constructed destructive weapons but USA didn't taken notice about them. It's probably true that Israel is an undeclared nuclear power. They've probably had them since the 1970s. But, at least they haven't used them. At least Israel has a good defensive reason to have them - they are surrounded by a dozen Middle Eastern countries that would rather wipe them off the face of the earth than make peace with them. In contrast, no one shouts "death to Iran". Whether US is right or Iran....God knows only Or, we can think about the issue and come to the obvious conclusion that countries who aren't tolerant and who use violence to backup their religious ideologies should not gain the ability to carry out their violence.
-
USA government already labeled Iran as a part of "Axis of evil". Iran recently conducts missile tests of "Shahab" missile series and USA condemns it. Well, Iran has been shouting "Death to the US" for twenty years now, and it's religious/government leaders say that Israel is a cancer that needs to be cut-out completely from the earth. Additionally, it pays a great deal of money to terrorist groups, and has for a long time. What's wrong with them becoming a nuclear power with missles capable of reaching Israel? Iran seems to know a great deal about taking a hard-line on issues and using violence. The worst thing is to give Iran the ability to carry out this violence. The problem with religous regimes, in general, is that they tend to be illogical and intolerant (even Europe went through it's religious wars but at least they didn't have nukes). Interesting to note that Israel has already constructed destructive weapons but USA didn't taken notice about them. It's probably true that Israel is an undeclared nuclear power. They've probably had them since the 1970s. But, at least they haven't used them. At least Israel has a good defensive reason to have them - they are surrounded by a dozen Middle Eastern countries that would rather wipe them off the face of the earth than make peace with them. In contrast, no one shouts "death to Iran". Whether US is right or Iran....God knows only Or, we can think about the issue and come to the obvious conclusion that countries who aren't tolerant and who use violence to backup their religious ideologies should not gain the ability to carry out their violence.
-
I'm Iranian guy and I believe in 99% you are right. Beyond nationality we can be friend,can't we? :) :rose: Mazy "The more I search, the more my need For you, The more I bless, the more I bleed For you."The Outlaw Torn-Metallica
Mazdak wrote: Beyond nationality we can be friend,can't we? Yes Jeremy L. Falcon Homepage : Sonork = 100.16311
"It was a blind man who taught me how to see." - Aerosmith -
I'm Iranian guy and I believe in 99% you are right. Beyond nationality we can be friend,can't we? :) :rose: Mazy "The more I search, the more my need For you, The more I bless, the more I bleed For you."The Outlaw Torn-Metallica
-
By the way the best feature of your "dictatorship" is that it never cares about the "dictation" given by US. "Dictation" given by the US is not the correct term. There simply is not one country in the entire world that follows exactly what the US says. (This idea of "dictation" is largely a ploy by the status-quo in a particular country to maintain power - by creating fear that if they leave power, the country's next regime will do whatever the US wants. But, as I've explained, there aren't any examples in the whole world of any government having their policies dictated by the US.)
Brit wrote: there aren't any examples in the whole world of any government having their policies dictated by the US Almost true. In Denmark we never wanted any nuclear devices on our territory, but in the cold war the US pressured the government to allow Nuclear bombs to be stored in Greenland. If a transport plane hadn't crashed and contaminated a large piece of land with radicoactive trash, then the Danish people probably never would have known about it. By the way: What about all the countries that in some way or another have been handled by CIA?. "It could have been worse, it could have been ME!"