HELP!!!!! Hurry, Now.
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I'm helping a mate out who has hit a bit of bad luck. He's unempoyed and recently was home invaded and as well as kicking a few teeth out they kicked crap out of his computer. Silly bastard went out a bought a few parts with a loan he got before I could have a look over his system. He needed a power supply, HDD and video card but I didn't know at that point if the computer (P4 2.66GHz) was in working order. I pulled out the air compressor and blew enough crap out of the heat sink to plant potatoes in. So it has a DVD-ROM, DVD-R, floppy, 1GB RAM, 320GB HDD, 256MD video, video capture, modem, fluro lights with power switch and I think a SPDIF thingy. It powers up nicely, all the lights on the motherboard light up abd all fans go, but no BIOS beeps or display. Probably means that the motherboard/CPU/RAM is gone. Anyone have any ideas of what else it could be? I have RAM I can swap out for testing but no CPU or M/B, any help appreciated.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004
First thing you do is disconnect everything that is not neccesary for the pc to run eg. Sound Card, Hard Drives, CD/DVD Roms, Floppy Drives. All you leave connected is your display adapter and 1 memory module (and the CPU obvliously). Now power up the PC If nothing happens, try it with the memory module in another slot. If still nothing happens, try another memory module, and also try it in multiple slots. If STILL nothing happens then you can try another CPU if you can find one, and if you suspect that your PC-Speaker isn't working you could even try another display adapter because it's possible that the PC is beeping but the speaker is not functioning. If all of the above fails, try another mother board. If you still struggle, try another PC. ;P
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I'm helping a mate out who has hit a bit of bad luck. He's unempoyed and recently was home invaded and as well as kicking a few teeth out they kicked crap out of his computer. Silly bastard went out a bought a few parts with a loan he got before I could have a look over his system. He needed a power supply, HDD and video card but I didn't know at that point if the computer (P4 2.66GHz) was in working order. I pulled out the air compressor and blew enough crap out of the heat sink to plant potatoes in. So it has a DVD-ROM, DVD-R, floppy, 1GB RAM, 320GB HDD, 256MD video, video capture, modem, fluro lights with power switch and I think a SPDIF thingy. It powers up nicely, all the lights on the motherboard light up abd all fans go, but no BIOS beeps or display. Probably means that the motherboard/CPU/RAM is gone. Anyone have any ideas of what else it could be? I have RAM I can swap out for testing but no CPU or M/B, any help appreciated.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004
You should be able to eliminate RAM from the equation as the computer will at least make noise/beeps even if the RAM was bad. I'm not sure if the same can be said for the CPU.
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OMG! Thats quite unbelievable!!:wtf: Which place is your friend in? And I thought these kind of things happened in middle eastern dictatorships. Aren't they ever apprehended?:~
SG
SimulationofSai wrote:
Aren't they ever apprehended?
Only if caught.
"A good athlete is the result of a good and worthy opponent." - David Crow
"To have a respect for ourselves guides our morals; to have deference for others governs our manners." - Laurence Sterne
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Phil Harding wrote:
I live under a rock, what exactley is a home invasion :confused:
Were people (most often drug addicts) bust into your home and if your lucky enough to be home they will kick three shades of shit out of you if they leave it to hands and feet only. Then they will take anything and everything of value to pawn to get their next hit.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004
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Michael Martin wrote:
He needed a power supply, HDD and video card but I didn't know at that point if the computer (P4 2.66GHz) was in working order. I pulled out the air compressor and blew enough crap out of the heat sink to plant potatoes in.
- I don't suppose anyone by chance "tested" the power supply without a motherboard attached? depending on power supply, an unloaded test of a PC powersupply will render the power supply: non-functional. 2) blowing dirt out of the heatsink could mean an overheated CPU, or dead CPU 3) kicking a computer while it is up could have resulted in a brief gap between heatsink and CPU, an air-bubble between the two heats up fast and activates the auto-off on the chip to prevent overheating. Although this is a relatively new thing, I believe it came in the P4 line. Taking the heatsink off, cleaning it properly (google or ask if unsure), put it back on with thermal paste/grease (not glue) or one of the better thermal compounds. In the case of #3, I had two computers shipped to our ship fed ex. Fed ex at least dropped them (not sure from what height but given that this is a steal enclosure bent 2 inches in -- I don't want to know). After reseating everything in a slot, both of them refused to post. But there were motherboard lights telling me that the reason was CPU related. Both had to be cleaned and reseated. One also had to have the graphics card replaced. I would have demanded fed ex insurance replace them, except they were needed in 3 days, insurance would take longer, so fixing was manditory.
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El Corazon wrote:
- kicking a computer while it is up could have resulted in a brief gap between heatsink and CPU, an air-bubble between the two heats up fast and activates the auto-off on the chip to prevent overheating. Although this is a relatively new thing, I believe it came in the P4 line.
The p3 line actually. The p4 improved response time to allow underclocking to FPS slideshow performance if all cooling was lost instead of doing an emergency shutdown that left the PC hung. I'm not sure when AMD got around to stealing the idea, I know the athlonXP family would smoke if the heatsink was removed during operation.
-- You have to explain to them [VB coders] what you mean by "typed". their first response is likely to be something like, "Of course my code is typed. Do you think i magically project it onto the screen with the power of my mind?" --- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
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El Corazon wrote:
- kicking a computer while it is up could have resulted in a brief gap between heatsink and CPU, an air-bubble between the two heats up fast and activates the auto-off on the chip to prevent overheating. Although this is a relatively new thing, I believe it came in the P4 line.
The p3 line actually. The p4 improved response time to allow underclocking to FPS slideshow performance if all cooling was lost instead of doing an emergency shutdown that left the PC hung. I'm not sure when AMD got around to stealing the idea, I know the athlonXP family would smoke if the heatsink was removed during operation.
-- You have to explain to them [VB coders] what you mean by "typed". their first response is likely to be something like, "Of course my code is typed. Do you think i magically project it onto the screen with the power of my mind?" --- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
dan neely wrote:
The p4 improved response time to allow underclocking to FPS slideshow performance if all cooling was lost
hmmmm... XEONs will still shut down, its most of our work on those processors, and I can't tell you how many times and overheated processor has shut down a system. They underclock to a limit then *poof* gone. At least until you fix the problem.
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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Justin Perez wrote:
I sleep with a glock at the bedside, and keep a loaded rifle in the closet
That'll change as soon as you have children. Or at least I hope it will...
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OMG! Thats quite unbelievable!!:wtf: Which place is your friend in? And I thought these kind of things happened in middle eastern dictatorships. Aren't they ever apprehended?:~
SG
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dan neely wrote:
The p4 improved response time to allow underclocking to FPS slideshow performance if all cooling was lost
hmmmm... XEONs will still shut down, its most of our work on those processors, and I can't tell you how many times and overheated processor has shut down a system. They underclock to a limit then *poof* gone. At least until you fix the problem.
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
interesting, maybe that's why the THG videos only had the HSF removed for a few seconds before they stuck it back on.
-- You have to explain to them [VB coders] what you mean by "typed". their first response is likely to be something like, "Of course my code is typed. Do you think i magically project it onto the screen with the power of my mind?" --- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
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I've had this exact symptom. I'd forgotten to connect the separate 12V power feed.
I've also encountered this, but the power supply (the 12V part) was dead. I would try it with a different power supply.