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  • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

    Ok Let's play the game: VB or .NET or Win Forms or WTL or MFC? The UI is at the following location: Screenshot

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    Windows XP


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    • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

      Ok Let's play the game: VB or .NET or Win Forms or WTL or MFC? The UI is at the following location: Screenshot

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      Shog9 0
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      Heh. Nice one, Rama... With the possible exception of the tree, every control in that shot is custom. :)

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        Rama Krishna Vavilala
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        Nope:) You got that incorrect too! It was Windows Server 2003:)

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        • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

          Nope:) You got that incorrect too! It was Windows Server 2003:)

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          Luna on 2k3? Eww!

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          • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

            Ok Let's play the game: VB or .NET or Win Forms or WTL or MFC? The UI is at the following location: Screenshot

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            None of the above. :) Looks like you're using a DevExpress or Infragistics suite. (OK, that makes it .NET. But probably VB with a 3rd party control suite). Marc

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              C# is the new VB. The so-called VB.NET is just for... you know, handicapped folk. People whose keyboards are missing semicolons and curly braces.

              every night, i kneel at the foot of my bed and thank the Great Overseeing Politicians for protecting my freedoms by reducing their number, as if they were deer in a state park. -- Chris Losinger, Online Poker Players?

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              Douglas Troy
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              Shog9 wrote:

              you know, handicapped folk

              Shog, that's SO not PC ... they're Line Terminated Challenged or Bracketed Dysfunctional ... ... and I'm fairly certain there are a bunch of Pharmaceutical companies that have a "cure" in the form of large, brightly colored pills ... ;P


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              • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                Ok Let's play the game: VB or .NET or Win Forms or WTL or MFC? The UI is at the following location: Screenshot

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                Rajesh R Subramanian
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                Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

                VB or .NET or Win Forms or WTL or MFC?

                Photoshop? :rolleyes:


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                  Clickety[^] Why isn't #1 convert it to C++/C#? :confused::laugh:

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                  Step #0 switch ON th Pc and put on the desktop a big cup of coffe. ;P


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                    Luna on 2k3? Eww!

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                    Rama Krishna Vavilala
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                    Is something wrong? It's a test machine used to test Client and server.

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                    • M Marc Clifton

                      Those are good seven steps for any language, not just VB! Though #1 (normalize the UI) is amusing because I can always tell a VB app because of the funky colors, large fonts, and odd UI. Marc

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                      Marc Clifton wrote:

                      I can always tell a VB app because of the funky colors, large fonts, and odd UI

                      Yeah, it seems the same for Delphi too, why is that I wonder :confused:


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                        Heh. Nice one, Rama... With the possible exception of the tree, every control in that shot is custom. :)

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                        Rama Krishna Vavilala
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                        Here is another which has your favorite UI technology (Same app) Screenshot2

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                          Marc Clifton wrote:

                          I can always tell a VB app because of the funky colors, large fonts, and odd UI

                          Yeah, it seems the same for Delphi too, why is that I wonder :confused:


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                          Phil Harding wrote:

                          Yeah, it seems the same for Delphi too, why is that I wonder

                          That's a diffent issue than VB's anti-design patterns. With borland tools you have the fact that Borland was convinced they could make better controls than MS, as a result most (all?) of their 'standard' controls are custom not win32 basic constructs. As a result they always function subtlety different than standard.

                          -- You have to explain to them [VB coders] what you mean by "typed". their first response is likely to be something like, "Of course my code is typed. Do you think i magically project it onto the screen with the power of my mind?" --- John Simmons / outlaw programmer

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                            None of the above. :) Looks like you're using a DevExpress or Infragistics suite. (OK, that makes it .NET. But probably VB with a 3rd party control suite). Marc

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                            The correct answer is All of The Above:) 1. The main window tree view the MDI tabs all are C++/MFC. Uses CodeJock Library. 2. The top window "Bat Template" is actually a VB6 Control that hosts a WTL Tabs Control (custom built). All of these hosted as an ActiveX control in an MFC CView. 3. The bottom Grid is .NET Winforms DataGridView derived class written in C# hosted in an MFC CView derived class written in C++/CLI.

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                              Phil Harding wrote:

                              Yeah, it seems the same for Delphi too, why is that I wonder

                              That's a diffent issue than VB's anti-design patterns. With borland tools you have the fact that Borland was convinced they could make better controls than MS, as a result most (all?) of their 'standard' controls are custom not win32 basic constructs. As a result they always function subtlety different than standard.

                              -- You have to explain to them [VB coders] what you mean by "typed". their first response is likely to be something like, "Of course my code is typed. Do you think i magically project it onto the screen with the power of my mind?" --- John Simmons / outlaw programmer

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                              Rama Krishna Vavilala
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                              Even all the VB controls are not standard Win32 controls.

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                                Is something wrong? It's a test machine used to test Client and server.

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                                I just dislike the way that theme looks, and wouldn't bother going out of my way to enable it. :)

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                                • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                                  The correct answer is All of The Above:) 1. The main window tree view the MDI tabs all are C++/MFC. Uses CodeJock Library. 2. The top window "Bat Template" is actually a VB6 Control that hosts a WTL Tabs Control (custom built). All of these hosted as an ActiveX control in an MFC CView. 3. The bottom Grid is .NET Winforms DataGridView derived class written in C# hosted in an MFC CView derived class written in C++/CLI.

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                                  Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

                                  The correct answer is All of The Above

                                  Nice! That must have been quite interesting to put all together. Marc

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                                  • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                                    Here is another which has your favorite UI technology (Same app) Screenshot2

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                                    Ah, very nice. But an odd choice of colors... was this perhaps originally designed on a machine where those shades of grey matched?

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                                      Ah, very nice. But an odd choice of colors... was this perhaps originally designed on a machine where those shades of grey matched?

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                                      Rama Krishna Vavilala
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                                      Shog9 wrote:

                                      was this perhaps originally designed on a machine where those shades of grey matched?

                                      No it was end-user designed screen (The app has an HTML form designer built into it which allows end users to design screens). He might be using a different theme in the application.

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                                      • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                                        Shog9 wrote:

                                        was this perhaps originally designed on a machine where those shades of grey matched?

                                        No it was end-user designed screen (The app has an HTML form designer built into it which allows end users to design screens). He might be using a different theme in the application.

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                                        Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

                                        (The app has an HTML form designer built into it which allows end users to design screens)

                                        Slick. :cool:

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                                          C# is the new VB. The so-called VB.NET is just for... you know, handicapped folk. People whose keyboards are missing semicolons and curly braces.

                                          every night, i kneel at the foot of my bed and thank the Great Overseeing Politicians for protecting my freedoms by reducing their number, as if they were deer in a state park. -- Chris Losinger, Online Poker Players?

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                                          led mike
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                                          Shog9 wrote:

                                          C# is the new VB.

                                          So that means that C is the old VB right? Because I am currently working with some C source code that is as bad a piece of work as I have ever seen. Technically they ported it to C++ a few years back. Basically they changed the file names to .cpp and malloc/free to new/delete. *groan* It's so bad about the only advice I would give about improving the code is to never allow people like that to create any. Languages don't kill projects, people do. I hope you remember me enough to know this is NOT a defense of VB :laugh:

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