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Seven Steps to Improving Your VB Code

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  • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

    Ok Let's play the game: VB or .NET or Win Forms or WTL or MFC? The UI is at the following location: Screenshot

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    Shog9 0
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    Heh. Nice one, Rama... With the possible exception of the tree, every control in that shot is custom. :)

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      Rama Krishna Vavilala
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      Nope:) You got that incorrect too! It was Windows Server 2003:)

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        Nope:) You got that incorrect too! It was Windows Server 2003:)

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        Luna on 2k3? Eww!

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        • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

          Ok Let's play the game: VB or .NET or Win Forms or WTL or MFC? The UI is at the following location: Screenshot

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          Marc Clifton
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          None of the above. :) Looks like you're using a DevExpress or Infragistics suite. (OK, that makes it .NET. But probably VB with a 3rd party control suite). Marc

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            C# is the new VB. The so-called VB.NET is just for... you know, handicapped folk. People whose keyboards are missing semicolons and curly braces.

            every night, i kneel at the foot of my bed and thank the Great Overseeing Politicians for protecting my freedoms by reducing their number, as if they were deer in a state park. -- Chris Losinger, Online Poker Players?

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            Douglas Troy
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            Shog9 wrote:

            you know, handicapped folk

            Shog, that's SO not PC ... they're Line Terminated Challenged or Bracketed Dysfunctional ... ... and I'm fairly certain there are a bunch of Pharmaceutical companies that have a "cure" in the form of large, brightly colored pills ... ;P


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            • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

              Ok Let's play the game: VB or .NET or Win Forms or WTL or MFC? The UI is at the following location: Screenshot

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              Rajesh R Subramanian
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              Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

              VB or .NET or Win Forms or WTL or MFC?

              Photoshop? :rolleyes:


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                Luna on 2k3? Eww!

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                Rama Krishna Vavilala
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                Is something wrong? It's a test machine used to test Client and server.

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                  Clickety[^] Why isn't #1 convert it to C++/C#? :confused::laugh:

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                  Step #0 switch ON th Pc and put on the desktop a big cup of coffe. ;P


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                  • M Marc Clifton

                    Those are good seven steps for any language, not just VB! Though #1 (normalize the UI) is amusing because I can always tell a VB app because of the funky colors, large fonts, and odd UI. Marc

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                    Marc Clifton wrote:

                    I can always tell a VB app because of the funky colors, large fonts, and odd UI

                    Yeah, it seems the same for Delphi too, why is that I wonder :confused:


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                      Heh. Nice one, Rama... With the possible exception of the tree, every control in that shot is custom. :)

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                      Rama Krishna Vavilala
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                      Here is another which has your favorite UI technology (Same app) Screenshot2

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                        Marc Clifton wrote:

                        I can always tell a VB app because of the funky colors, large fonts, and odd UI

                        Yeah, it seems the same for Delphi too, why is that I wonder :confused:


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                        Phil Harding wrote:

                        Yeah, it seems the same for Delphi too, why is that I wonder

                        That's a diffent issue than VB's anti-design patterns. With borland tools you have the fact that Borland was convinced they could make better controls than MS, as a result most (all?) of their 'standard' controls are custom not win32 basic constructs. As a result they always function subtlety different than standard.

                        -- You have to explain to them [VB coders] what you mean by "typed". their first response is likely to be something like, "Of course my code is typed. Do you think i magically project it onto the screen with the power of my mind?" --- John Simmons / outlaw programmer

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                          None of the above. :) Looks like you're using a DevExpress or Infragistics suite. (OK, that makes it .NET. But probably VB with a 3rd party control suite). Marc

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                          Rama Krishna Vavilala
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                          The correct answer is All of The Above:) 1. The main window tree view the MDI tabs all are C++/MFC. Uses CodeJock Library. 2. The top window "Bat Template" is actually a VB6 Control that hosts a WTL Tabs Control (custom built). All of these hosted as an ActiveX control in an MFC CView. 3. The bottom Grid is .NET Winforms DataGridView derived class written in C# hosted in an MFC CView derived class written in C++/CLI.

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                            Phil Harding wrote:

                            Yeah, it seems the same for Delphi too, why is that I wonder

                            That's a diffent issue than VB's anti-design patterns. With borland tools you have the fact that Borland was convinced they could make better controls than MS, as a result most (all?) of their 'standard' controls are custom not win32 basic constructs. As a result they always function subtlety different than standard.

                            -- You have to explain to them [VB coders] what you mean by "typed". their first response is likely to be something like, "Of course my code is typed. Do you think i magically project it onto the screen with the power of my mind?" --- John Simmons / outlaw programmer

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                            Rama Krishna Vavilala
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                            Even all the VB controls are not standard Win32 controls.

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                            • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                              Is something wrong? It's a test machine used to test Client and server.

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                              I just dislike the way that theme looks, and wouldn't bother going out of my way to enable it. :)

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                              • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                                The correct answer is All of The Above:) 1. The main window tree view the MDI tabs all are C++/MFC. Uses CodeJock Library. 2. The top window "Bat Template" is actually a VB6 Control that hosts a WTL Tabs Control (custom built). All of these hosted as an ActiveX control in an MFC CView. 3. The bottom Grid is .NET Winforms DataGridView derived class written in C# hosted in an MFC CView derived class written in C++/CLI.

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                                Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

                                The correct answer is All of The Above

                                Nice! That must have been quite interesting to put all together. Marc

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                                • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                                  Here is another which has your favorite UI technology (Same app) Screenshot2

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                                  Ah, very nice. But an odd choice of colors... was this perhaps originally designed on a machine where those shades of grey matched?

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                                    Ah, very nice. But an odd choice of colors... was this perhaps originally designed on a machine where those shades of grey matched?

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                                    Rama Krishna Vavilala
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                                    Shog9 wrote:

                                    was this perhaps originally designed on a machine where those shades of grey matched?

                                    No it was end-user designed screen (The app has an HTML form designer built into it which allows end users to design screens). He might be using a different theme in the application.

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                                    • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                                      Shog9 wrote:

                                      was this perhaps originally designed on a machine where those shades of grey matched?

                                      No it was end-user designed screen (The app has an HTML form designer built into it which allows end users to design screens). He might be using a different theme in the application.

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                                      Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

                                      (The app has an HTML form designer built into it which allows end users to design screens)

                                      Slick. :cool:

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                                        C# is the new VB. The so-called VB.NET is just for... you know, handicapped folk. People whose keyboards are missing semicolons and curly braces.

                                        every night, i kneel at the foot of my bed and thank the Great Overseeing Politicians for protecting my freedoms by reducing their number, as if they were deer in a state park. -- Chris Losinger, Online Poker Players?

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                                        led mike
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                                        Shog9 wrote:

                                        C# is the new VB.

                                        So that means that C is the old VB right? Because I am currently working with some C source code that is as bad a piece of work as I have ever seen. Technically they ported it to C++ a few years back. Basically they changed the file names to .cpp and malloc/free to new/delete. *groan* It's so bad about the only advice I would give about improving the code is to never allow people like that to create any. Languages don't kill projects, people do. I hope you remember me enough to know this is NOT a defense of VB :laugh:

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                                        • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                                          Ok Let's play the game: VB or .NET or Win Forms or WTL or MFC? The UI is at the following location: Screenshot

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                                          Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

                                          Ok Let's play the game:

                                          I'm in. The UI is built on 3rd party components rendering the application development platform irrelevant to this discussion.

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