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  • P Paul Watson

    I am sure to get a beating around here for saying this but if I didn't have an iPhone I'd be buying myself an iPod Touch[^]. Anyone got a Zune they want to drown?

    regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

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    And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...

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    David Crow
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    Paul Watson wrote:

    ...an iPhone...

    I see where Apple has lowered the price of their high-end model, and are discontinuing their low-end model. And the new iPods can hold 40,000 songs! Who in the world has that many?!? :rolleyes:


    "A good athlete is the result of a good and worthy opponent." - David Crow

    "To have a respect for ourselves guides our morals; to have deference for others governs our manners." - Laurence Sterne

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      My 3.5 year old Dell DJ 15gb (Gen 1) is on its last legs. The buttons are flaky and the battery life is sad. Soon it will be time to replace it. While I know I won't be getting a Zune, I'm not sure if I should go with an iPod Nano or the Sandisk equivalent. I'm probably too cheap to get the iPod Touch. Hmmmmm.....

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      Gary R Wheeler
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      FWIW, I've got a 2G nano I bought for $147. I like it a lot. Sound quality is great, navigation is simple. My only complaint is that it can be difficult to turn off (you have to press and hold on a particular spot on the wheel).


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        So it's an iphone without a phone basically but still has wifi? I wonder how identical the guts are to the iphone.


        "I don't want more choice. I just want better things!" - Edina Monsoon

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        Gary R Wheeler
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        #define iPhone 0
        #define iPodTouch 1
        #define iModel iPodTouch


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        • G Gary R Wheeler

          FWIW, I've got a 2G nano I bought for $147. I like it a lot. Sound quality is great, navigation is simple. My only complaint is that it can be difficult to turn off (you have to press and hold on a particular spot on the wheel).


          Software Zen: delete this;

          Fold With Us![^]

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          Lost User
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          Yeah, my daughter has a 4G Nano (Gen 1) and my wife has a 8G Nano (Gen 2). I'll probably end up with a Gen 3 Nano myself. My son is the freak with the Zune. ;)

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          • D Dan Neely

            If it can be deliberately manipulated by hand my pocket cruft will manage to do the same every few hours. Said cruft will also work the screen over as if it were 80-120grit sand paper.

            -- If you view money as inherently evil, I view it as my duty to assist in making you more virtuous.

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            Paul Watson
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            Not happened with the iPhone yet. Keep it in my back jeans pocket most of the day. Sit on it, store keys with it, coins jingling around. I even dropped the frikking thing the other day. Not a scratch on the glass yet and just a scuff on the back from when I dropped it. I was skeptical of wear and tear on it but have been proven wrong. Oh, and never once accidentally activated. It is sounder than the Nokia keypad method.

            regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

            Shog9 wrote:

            And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...

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            • C Christian Graus

              Looks like my Creative Zen W with a bigger price and some annoying extras. I was contemplating a Mac notebook, recently, until I realised just how much more I would be paying for the odd instance that I'd use the Mac side of it. The jury is still out if the next notebook will run Vista, I am suspecting it will be dual boot.

              Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )

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              Paul Watson
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              Christian Graus wrote:

              some annoying extras

              Care to elaborate? Just curious. I find Apple do a good job of not cluttering their devices while other companies put all sorts of useless crap on them.

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              until I realised just how much more I would be paying for the odd instance that I'd use the Mac side of it.

              Sure, if you are a Windows man then it isn't for you. You'd get annoyed with the Apple key, one button trackpad and the function keys if you lived in Windows all day on a Macbook Pro.

              regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

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              And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...

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              • L Lost User

                My 3.5 year old Dell DJ 15gb (Gen 1) is on its last legs. The buttons are flaky and the battery life is sad. Soon it will be time to replace it. While I know I won't be getting a Zune, I'm not sure if I should go with an iPod Nano or the Sandisk equivalent. I'm probably too cheap to get the iPod Touch. Hmmmmm.....

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                Paul Watson
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                If you can live with 8gb instead of 15gb then the last generation nano is fantastic. Small, fast, usable and solid. And you can probably pick one up cheap off of eBay now. I'm not that keen on the new nano's design, bit of an ugly duckling.

                regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

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                And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...

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                • M Member 96

                  So it's an iphone without a phone basically but still has wifi? I wonder how identical the guts are to the iphone.


                  "I don't want more choice. I just want better things!" - Edina Monsoon

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                  Paul Watson
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                  Darned similar I'd say. Bet the hacker boys will have SSH, Apache, SFTP and all that on the iPod Touch within days.

                  regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                  Shog9 wrote:

                  And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...

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                  • D David Crow

                    Paul Watson wrote:

                    ...an iPhone...

                    I see where Apple has lowered the price of their high-end model, and are discontinuing their low-end model. And the new iPods can hold 40,000 songs! Who in the world has that many?!? :rolleyes:


                    "A good athlete is the result of a good and worthy opponent." - David Crow

                    "To have a respect for ourselves guides our morals; to have deference for others governs our manners." - Laurence Sterne

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                    Paul Watson
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                    DavidCrow wrote:

                    And the new iPods can hold 40,000 songs! Who in the world has that many?!?

                    Man, its video these kids want these days. "Music? WTF, it doesn't have moving images with it! How am I supposed to know the lyrics if I can't read their lips huh?"

                    regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                    Shog9 wrote:

                    And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...

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                    • D daniilzol

                      I have to admit that Apple hardware is getting better with every revision, prices become more reasonable as well. However, there are still two big show stoppers for me. One is stupid iTunes which must be installed in order to use iPod along with a set of bugs and glitches and second, the 5th generation iPod that I heard had a moderately loud operating hum which is also a no-go for me.

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                      Paul Watson
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                      JazzJackRabbit wrote:

                      One is stupid iTunes which must be installed in order to use iPod along with a set of bugs and glitches and second

                      Well, I'm an iTunes user. The thing works. Never crashed on me or had any bugs. Simpler and better than Windows Media Player or anything else I've tried. There is alternative software though. Apps that sync your music to the iPod etc. but that aren't iTunes. Not terribly official and new iPods take awhile to get supported.

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                      the 5th generation iPod that I heard had a moderately loud operating hum which is also a no-go for me.

                      Never actually owned a full sized iPod. Had the nano which never hummed and the iPhone doesn't humm.

                      regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                      Shog9 wrote:

                      And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...

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                      • P Paul Watson

                        I am sure to get a beating around here for saying this but if I didn't have an iPhone I'd be buying myself an iPod Touch[^]. Anyone got a Zune they want to drown?

                        regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                        Shog9 wrote:

                        And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...

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                        Steve Mayfield
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                        and how do you feel about Apple dropping the iPhone price by $200 (33%) [^] :doh: Steve

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                          and how do you feel about Apple dropping the iPhone price by $200 (33%) [^] :doh: Steve

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                          Paul Watson
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                          I am really, really happy about that price drop. Fantastic news as it brings it within reach of many people who couldn't stomach the original pricing. With our mobile-web plans the more iPhones, Nokia N95s and other "proper browser" phones with decent screens out there the better. (BTW I didn't buy my own iPhone. The company bought a few and I got one. Pretty darned privileged I tell you. :))

                          regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

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                          And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...

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                          • M Maximilien

                            I was expecting a bigger flash drive for the iPouch ( iPod + Touch ). 32 gig would have make me hit F5 on the apple store page and buy the little s*cker.


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                            Paul Watson
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                            What would you use the 32gig for? Videos?

                            regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                            Shog9 wrote:

                            And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...

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                              I am really, really happy about that price drop. Fantastic news as it brings it within reach of many people who couldn't stomach the original pricing. With our mobile-web plans the more iPhones, Nokia N95s and other "proper browser" phones with decent screens out there the better. (BTW I didn't buy my own iPhone. The company bought a few and I got one. Pretty darned privileged I tell you. :))

                              regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                              Shog9 wrote:

                              And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...

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                              lucky dog :cool: actually I'm very happy with my Nokia 6682 that I picked up a few years ago... Steve

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                              • P Paul Watson

                                What would you use the 32gig for? Videos?

                                regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                                Shog9 wrote:

                                And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...

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                                Paul Watson wrote:

                                What would you use the 32gig for? Videos?

                                music, I have a very large collection of all legally bought music; my current iPod (80gig) holds about 1/3 of it all; but it's a HD based device, I would accept to have a smaller capacity iPos if it was solid state.


                                Maximilien Lincourt Your Head A Splode - Strong Bad

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                                • P Paul Watson

                                  I am sure to get a beating around here for saying this but if I didn't have an iPhone I'd be buying myself an iPod Touch[^]. Anyone got a Zune they want to drown?

                                  regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                                  Shog9 wrote:

                                  And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...

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                                  Matt Newman
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                                  Paul Watson wrote:

                                  Anyone got a Zune they want to drown?

                                  I would never trade my Zune for one of those, then again I don't use my mp3 player as a fashion statement.

                                  -Matt Newman

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                                    I am sure to get a beating around here for saying this but if I didn't have an iPhone I'd be buying myself an iPod Touch[^]. Anyone got a Zune they want to drown?

                                    regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                                    Shog9 wrote:

                                    And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...

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                                    Stuart Dootson
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                                    When they get the storage up to 64GB I'll be severely tempted to buy one - I subscribe to the 'all of my music on my iPod' school, so 16GB wouldn't quite cut it... Now, if my (60GB) iPod died, I would have a difficult job deciding which iPod to replace it with...

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                                      I have to admit that Apple hardware is getting better with every revision, prices become more reasonable as well. However, there are still two big show stoppers for me. One is stupid iTunes which must be installed in order to use iPod along with a set of bugs and glitches and second, the 5th generation iPod that I heard had a moderately loud operating hum which is also a no-go for me.

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                                      JazzJackRabbit wrote:

                                      the 5th generation iPod that I heard had a moderately loud operating hum

                                      I suspect it was broken - I have a 5G iPod and the audio quality is excellent - there's no hum or anything. That and the Shure E3Cs I use do, of course, make it easier to hear the compression artefacts in the music - they're still noticeable (if you're listening for them) at 192kbps. Maybe I should upgrade up to the 160GB iPod classic and see how much music I can get on there with lossless compression....

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                                        Paul Watson wrote:

                                        ...an iPhone...

                                        I see where Apple has lowered the price of their high-end model, and are discontinuing their low-end model. And the new iPods can hold 40,000 songs! Who in the world has that many?!? :rolleyes:


                                        "A good athlete is the result of a good and worthy opponent." - David Crow

                                        "To have a respect for ourselves guides our morals; to have deference for others governs our manners." - Laurence Sterne

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                                        DavidCrow wrote:

                                        And the new iPods can hold 40,000 songs!

                                        I'd be more interested in using the capacity for ripping at higher bit-rates, or with lossless compression...

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                                        • M Matt Newman

                                          Paul Watson wrote:

                                          Anyone got a Zune they want to drown?

                                          I would never trade my Zune for one of those, then again I don't use my mp3 player as a fashion statement.

                                          -Matt Newman

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                                          Matt Newman wrote:

                                          ...then again I don't use my mp3 player as a fashion statement.

                                          You're in luck then. I doubt anyone would trade even an iPod Shuffle for a brown turd.


                                          "When you have made evil the means of survival, do not expect men to remain good. Do not expect them to stay moral and lose their lives for the purpose of becoming the fodder of the immoral. Do not expect them to produce, when production is punished and looting rewarded. Do not ask, `Who is destroying the world?' You are."
                                          -Atlas Shrugged, Ayn Rand

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