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  • L Lost User

    My 3.5 year old Dell DJ 15gb (Gen 1) is on its last legs. The buttons are flaky and the battery life is sad. Soon it will be time to replace it. While I know I won't be getting a Zune, I'm not sure if I should go with an iPod Nano or the Sandisk equivalent. I'm probably too cheap to get the iPod Touch. Hmmmmm.....

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    Paul Watson
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    If you can live with 8gb instead of 15gb then the last generation nano is fantastic. Small, fast, usable and solid. And you can probably pick one up cheap off of eBay now. I'm not that keen on the new nano's design, bit of an ugly duckling.

    regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

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    And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...

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    • M Member 96

      So it's an iphone without a phone basically but still has wifi? I wonder how identical the guts are to the iphone.


      "I don't want more choice. I just want better things!" - Edina Monsoon

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      Paul Watson
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      Darned similar I'd say. Bet the hacker boys will have SSH, Apache, SFTP and all that on the iPod Touch within days.

      regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

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      • D David Crow

        Paul Watson wrote:

        ...an iPhone...

        I see where Apple has lowered the price of their high-end model, and are discontinuing their low-end model. And the new iPods can hold 40,000 songs! Who in the world has that many?!? :rolleyes:


        "A good athlete is the result of a good and worthy opponent." - David Crow

        "To have a respect for ourselves guides our morals; to have deference for others governs our manners." - Laurence Sterne

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        Paul Watson
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        DavidCrow wrote:

        And the new iPods can hold 40,000 songs! Who in the world has that many?!?

        Man, its video these kids want these days. "Music? WTF, it doesn't have moving images with it! How am I supposed to know the lyrics if I can't read their lips huh?"

        regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

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        And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...

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        • D daniilzol

          I have to admit that Apple hardware is getting better with every revision, prices become more reasonable as well. However, there are still two big show stoppers for me. One is stupid iTunes which must be installed in order to use iPod along with a set of bugs and glitches and second, the 5th generation iPod that I heard had a moderately loud operating hum which is also a no-go for me.

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          Paul Watson
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          JazzJackRabbit wrote:

          One is stupid iTunes which must be installed in order to use iPod along with a set of bugs and glitches and second

          Well, I'm an iTunes user. The thing works. Never crashed on me or had any bugs. Simpler and better than Windows Media Player or anything else I've tried. There is alternative software though. Apps that sync your music to the iPod etc. but that aren't iTunes. Not terribly official and new iPods take awhile to get supported.

          JazzJackRabbit wrote:

          the 5th generation iPod that I heard had a moderately loud operating hum which is also a no-go for me.

          Never actually owned a full sized iPod. Had the nano which never hummed and the iPhone doesn't humm.

          regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

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          And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...

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          • P Paul Watson

            I am sure to get a beating around here for saying this but if I didn't have an iPhone I'd be buying myself an iPod Touch[^]. Anyone got a Zune they want to drown?

            regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

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            And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...

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            Steve Mayfield
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            and how do you feel about Apple dropping the iPhone price by $200 (33%) [^] :doh: Steve

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              and how do you feel about Apple dropping the iPhone price by $200 (33%) [^] :doh: Steve

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              Paul Watson
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              I am really, really happy about that price drop. Fantastic news as it brings it within reach of many people who couldn't stomach the original pricing. With our mobile-web plans the more iPhones, Nokia N95s and other "proper browser" phones with decent screens out there the better. (BTW I didn't buy my own iPhone. The company bought a few and I got one. Pretty darned privileged I tell you. :))

              regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

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              • M Maximilien

                I was expecting a bigger flash drive for the iPouch ( iPod + Touch ). 32 gig would have make me hit F5 on the apple store page and buy the little s*cker.


                Maximilien Lincourt Your Head A Splode - Strong Bad

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                Paul Watson
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                What would you use the 32gig for? Videos?

                regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                Shog9 wrote:

                And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...

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                  I am really, really happy about that price drop. Fantastic news as it brings it within reach of many people who couldn't stomach the original pricing. With our mobile-web plans the more iPhones, Nokia N95s and other "proper browser" phones with decent screens out there the better. (BTW I didn't buy my own iPhone. The company bought a few and I got one. Pretty darned privileged I tell you. :))

                  regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                  Shog9 wrote:

                  And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...

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                  Steve Mayfield
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                  lucky dog :cool: actually I'm very happy with my Nokia 6682 that I picked up a few years ago... Steve

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                  • P Paul Watson

                    What would you use the 32gig for? Videos?

                    regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                    Shog9 wrote:

                    And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...

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                    Maximilien
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                    Paul Watson wrote:

                    What would you use the 32gig for? Videos?

                    music, I have a very large collection of all legally bought music; my current iPod (80gig) holds about 1/3 of it all; but it's a HD based device, I would accept to have a smaller capacity iPos if it was solid state.


                    Maximilien Lincourt Your Head A Splode - Strong Bad

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                    • P Paul Watson

                      I am sure to get a beating around here for saying this but if I didn't have an iPhone I'd be buying myself an iPod Touch[^]. Anyone got a Zune they want to drown?

                      regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                      Shog9 wrote:

                      And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...

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                      Matt Newman
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                      Paul Watson wrote:

                      Anyone got a Zune they want to drown?

                      I would never trade my Zune for one of those, then again I don't use my mp3 player as a fashion statement.

                      -Matt Newman

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                      • P Paul Watson

                        I am sure to get a beating around here for saying this but if I didn't have an iPhone I'd be buying myself an iPod Touch[^]. Anyone got a Zune they want to drown?

                        regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                        Shog9 wrote:

                        And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...

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                        Stuart Dootson
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                        When they get the storage up to 64GB I'll be severely tempted to buy one - I subscribe to the 'all of my music on my iPod' school, so 16GB wouldn't quite cut it... Now, if my (60GB) iPod died, I would have a difficult job deciding which iPod to replace it with...

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                        • D daniilzol

                          I have to admit that Apple hardware is getting better with every revision, prices become more reasonable as well. However, there are still two big show stoppers for me. One is stupid iTunes which must be installed in order to use iPod along with a set of bugs and glitches and second, the 5th generation iPod that I heard had a moderately loud operating hum which is also a no-go for me.

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                          Stuart Dootson
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                          JazzJackRabbit wrote:

                          the 5th generation iPod that I heard had a moderately loud operating hum

                          I suspect it was broken - I have a 5G iPod and the audio quality is excellent - there's no hum or anything. That and the Shure E3Cs I use do, of course, make it easier to hear the compression artefacts in the music - they're still noticeable (if you're listening for them) at 192kbps. Maybe I should upgrade up to the 160GB iPod classic and see how much music I can get on there with lossless compression....

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                            Paul Watson wrote:

                            ...an iPhone...

                            I see where Apple has lowered the price of their high-end model, and are discontinuing their low-end model. And the new iPods can hold 40,000 songs! Who in the world has that many?!? :rolleyes:


                            "A good athlete is the result of a good and worthy opponent." - David Crow

                            "To have a respect for ourselves guides our morals; to have deference for others governs our manners." - Laurence Sterne

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                            DavidCrow wrote:

                            And the new iPods can hold 40,000 songs!

                            I'd be more interested in using the capacity for ripping at higher bit-rates, or with lossless compression...

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                            • M Matt Newman

                              Paul Watson wrote:

                              Anyone got a Zune they want to drown?

                              I would never trade my Zune for one of those, then again I don't use my mp3 player as a fashion statement.

                              -Matt Newman

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                              Rohde
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                              Matt Newman wrote:

                              ...then again I don't use my mp3 player as a fashion statement.

                              You're in luck then. I doubt anyone would trade even an iPod Shuffle for a brown turd.


                              "When you have made evil the means of survival, do not expect men to remain good. Do not expect them to stay moral and lose their lives for the purpose of becoming the fodder of the immoral. Do not expect them to produce, when production is punished and looting rewarded. Do not ask, `Who is destroying the world?' You are."
                              -Atlas Shrugged, Ayn Rand

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                                Paul Watson wrote:

                                Anyone got a Zune they want to drown?

                                I would never trade my Zune for one of those, then again I don't use my mp3 player as a fashion statement.

                                -Matt Newman

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                                Paul Watson
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                                Matt Newman wrote:

                                then again I don't use my mp3 player as a fashion statement

                                What do you use your Zune for then? :confused: ;)

                                regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                                Shog9 wrote:

                                And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...

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                                  Matt Newman wrote:

                                  then again I don't use my mp3 player as a fashion statement

                                  What do you use your Zune for then? :confused: ;)

                                  regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                                  Shog9 wrote:

                                  And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...

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                                  Matt Newman
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                                  Paul Watson wrote:

                                  What do you use your Zune for then?

                                  Cell phone :P

                                  -Matt Newman

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                                    Matt Newman wrote:

                                    ...then again I don't use my mp3 player as a fashion statement.

                                    You're in luck then. I doubt anyone would trade even an iPod Shuffle for a brown turd.


                                    "When you have made evil the means of survival, do not expect men to remain good. Do not expect them to stay moral and lose their lives for the purpose of becoming the fodder of the immoral. Do not expect them to produce, when production is punished and looting rewarded. Do not ask, `Who is destroying the world?' You are."
                                    -Atlas Shrugged, Ayn Rand

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                                    Matt Newman
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                                    Its not brown....

                                    -Matt Newman

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                                    • M Matt Newman

                                      Paul Watson wrote:

                                      What do you use your Zune for then?

                                      Cell phone :P

                                      -Matt Newman

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                                      Paul Watson
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                                      Holding up a brown turd to your ear is just not cool, Matt. Almost as bad as that ngage lark. I hope Microsoft respond but they don't seem as focused as Apple at the moment. MTV pulled out of that music store thing, Play For Sure doesn't play for sure and like it or not style is important and the Zune needs to improve on that.

                                      regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                                      Shog9 wrote:

                                      And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...

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                                        Holding up a brown turd to your ear is just not cool, Matt. Almost as bad as that ngage lark. I hope Microsoft respond but they don't seem as focused as Apple at the moment. MTV pulled out of that music store thing, Play For Sure doesn't play for sure and like it or not style is important and the Zune needs to improve on that.

                                        regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                                        Shog9 wrote:

                                        And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...

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                                        Matt Newman
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                                        Paul Watson wrote:

                                        Holding up a brown turd to your ear is just not cool, Matt. Almost as bad as that ngage lark.

                                        I'd agree, but I its not brown (black)

                                        Paul Watson wrote:

                                        I hope Microsoft respond but they don't seem as focused as Apple at the moment. MTV pulled out of that music store thing, Play For Sure doesn't play for sure and like it or not style is important and the Zune needs to improve on that.

                                        Honestly this stuff doesn't bother me, all I ever listen to is music I already owned or podcasts. And I really don't mind the look of the Zune.

                                        -Matt Newman

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