Windows Update is...
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Ummm... the article suggests that some updates are made with Automatic Updates completely disabled. In your analogy that's aggravated rape.
Yep.
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Yep.
Can I least request that Windows use protection? :)
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Christian Graus wrote:
I suspected this for ages.
I haven't felt 100% in control of any Microsoft OS since DOS and Windows 3.11. I remember installing Windows 95 for the first time. Spent about 30 minutes looking at all the new files / folders and thinking "Holy Shit!, I've lost control!"
Well Windows is hardly alone in that dept - unix is no different, I've used it for years and have yet to understand the logic behind where most of the files are stored.
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Well Windows is hardly alone in that dept - unix is no different, I've used it for years and have yet to understand the logic behind where most of the files are stored.
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Jim Crafton wrote:
I've used it for years and have yet to understand the logic behind where most of the files are stored.
Agree 110%. I've been "experimenting" for years on and off with various flavors of Linux and I don't have a clue as where to find most files. Sad really. I'm old enough to think "Wow, I need to get with the times", yet young enough to think "This is ridiculous". It's not a good time to me 40 something and in to software. To top it all off, the wife's 4 year old Compaq notebook is toast and I'm seriously considering an Apple MacBook as a replacement. Talk about culture shock! :-D
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Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:
Since then I manually select which upgrade I'll allow, and which I won't. And I only allow it after reading in the KB. I don't want to lose my system again.
:confused: I'm confused. The article claims that MS is actually pushing some updates on you without your consent. How does that "thrill" you? :confused:
:confused: Now I am confused. I took you meant "thrill" as in "upset"... maybe my mistake...
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...fetching and installing some updates without end users' consent. Story here[^] "Windows Secrets discovered that Windows had updated files even with automatic update turned off. By comparison, eWEEK Labs found that several Windows computers set to automatically download and manually install had applied updates without end user consent." If I were a corporate IT guru, I would not be too pleased. :mad: As a home user I'm not too thrilled. :~ :| Thoughts?
I wonder. I have WU turned off completely. I justed checked the files mentioned in the article and they are all at 7.0.6000.374 NOT 7.0.6000.381 as the article suggests is happening. Not sure why this is though.
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:confused: Now I am confused. I took you meant "thrill" as in "upset"... maybe my mistake...
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"Not too thrilled" = "a bit upset" = "not very happy" = "why the hell are they updating my computer without my permission when I have turned automatic updates off". Hope that clarifies it for you. -- modified at 0:14 Thursday 13th September, 2007 Just fixed up a missing t
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I wonder. I have WU turned off completely. I justed checked the files mentioned in the article and they are all at 7.0.6000.374 NOT 7.0.6000.381 as the article suggests is happening. Not sure why this is though.
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MS first inspects your PC and only updates those it thinks are worthy of the update? :laugh:
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I wonder. I have WU turned off completely. I justed checked the files mentioned in the article and they are all at 7.0.6000.374 NOT 7.0.6000.381 as the article suggests is happening. Not sure why this is though.
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Jim Crafton wrote:
I have WU turned off completely. I justed checked the files mentioned in the article and they are all at 7.0.6000.374 NOT 7.0.6000.381 as the article suggests is happening.
Keep an eye on the file versions. Could be the authors are complete morons and the article is total BS. As much as I like to bash MS - I try to be objective, still there are folks who will fabricate stuff.
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"Not too thrilled" = "a bit upset" = "not very happy" = "why the hell are they updating my computer without my permission when I have turned automatic updates off". Hope that clarifies it for you. -- modified at 0:14 Thursday 13th September, 2007 Just fixed up a missing t
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:-O Thanks Well, I guess everyday I can learn something new about English
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:-O Thanks Well, I guess everyday I can learn something new about English
Hope is the negation of reality - Raistlin Majere
No worries... if you really want to learn some English, google "Australian Slang"... there are some pearlers in there!! "pearler" = "cracker" = "ripper" = "excellent ones"
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Can I least request that Windows use protection? :)
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Jim Crafton wrote:
Can I least request that Windows use protection?
"Windows Update is trying to rape you. Cancel or Allow?" :cool:
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No worries... if you really want to learn some English, google "Australian Slang"... there are some pearlers in there!! "pearler" = "cracker" = "ripper" = "excellent ones"
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_Damian S_ wrote:
"pearler" = "cracker" = "ripper" = "excellent ones"
The cat's arse. I don't know how a cat's arse ever got to represent that what is really good, but I love the saying anyway.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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_Damian S_ wrote:
"pearler" = "cracker" = "ripper" = "excellent ones"
The cat's arse. I don't know how a cat's arse ever got to represent that what is really good, but I love the saying anyway.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
Duck's nuts...
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Jim Crafton wrote:
I've used it for years and have yet to understand the logic behind where most of the files are stored.
Agree 110%. I've been "experimenting" for years on and off with various flavors of Linux and I don't have a clue as where to find most files. Sad really. I'm old enough to think "Wow, I need to get with the times", yet young enough to think "This is ridiculous". It's not a good time to me 40 something and in to software. To top it all off, the wife's 4 year old Compaq notebook is toast and I'm seriously considering an Apple MacBook as a replacement. Talk about culture shock! :-D
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Well Windows is hardly alone in that dept - unix is no different, I've used it for years and have yet to understand the logic behind where most of the files are stored.
¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! VCF Blog
Jim Crafton wrote:
unix is no different, I've used it for years and have yet to understand the logic behind where most of the files are stored.
There are fifty versions of file/directory logic in nix. Like a bunch of monkeys got together and couldn't agree on where to store files so they all went off and did their own thing. I've given up caring where apps put their files on our Ubuntu and Solaris servers. Same with Mac OS X actually, I just bother anymore. It gets really annoying when someone else comes along and installs a new version of, say, Ruby and you end up with two versions of Ruby installed at the same time. Run Ruby as root and you get X.X.X, run it as another user and you get Y.Y.Y. Argh! Anyway.
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Shog9 wrote:
And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...
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...fetching and installing some updates without end users' consent. Story here[^] "Windows Secrets discovered that Windows had updated files even with automatic update turned off. By comparison, eWEEK Labs found that several Windows computers set to automatically download and manually install had applied updates without end user consent." If I were a corporate IT guru, I would not be too pleased. :mad: As a home user I'm not too thrilled. :~ :| Thoughts?
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Jim Crafton wrote:
Can I least request that Windows use protection?
"Windows Update is trying to rape you. Cancel or Allow?" :cool:
Cancel Are you sure? Yes. Why?
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Jim Crafton wrote:
unix is no different, I've used it for years and have yet to understand the logic behind where most of the files are stored.
There are fifty versions of file/directory logic in nix. Like a bunch of monkeys got together and couldn't agree on where to store files so they all went off and did their own thing. I've given up caring where apps put their files on our Ubuntu and Solaris servers. Same with Mac OS X actually, I just bother anymore. It gets really annoying when someone else comes along and installs a new version of, say, Ruby and you end up with two versions of Ruby installed at the same time. Run Ruby as root and you get X.X.X, run it as another user and you get Y.Y.Y. Argh! Anyway.
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Shog9 wrote:
And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...
Aah - this is why you're supposed to base profiles off common profiles. Well, that's the theory - it's a shame that it doesn't work out like that in practice.
Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.
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...fetching and installing some updates without end users' consent. Story here[^] "Windows Secrets discovered that Windows had updated files even with automatic update turned off. By comparison, eWEEK Labs found that several Windows computers set to automatically download and manually install had applied updates without end user consent." If I were a corporate IT guru, I would not be too pleased. :mad: As a home user I'm not too thrilled. :~ :| Thoughts?
You know what WU (on Windows Vista) done once to me? I had automatic updates turned on. I started work in the morning as usual and Windows has notified me it needed to restart because of the new updates that were installed. But it gave me an option to postpone the restart which I used of course (something like 'remind me in 4hrs') because I was in the middle of some work. And it never asked again, after a few hours it restarted my system automatically! I had Visual Studio open with unsaved changes, browser windows and so on. It just began the shutdown process and rebooted my computer! :wtf: Ever since I have WU set to manual installation of updates... Regards, Pawel Krakowiak