What about being late
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That's not fair for the people you work for. You need to set an example. My Boss is late almost everyday, and it irritates the hell out of me. It doens't matter how much you do outside of normal hours you need to be there every day on time. I get called to do work outside of normal hours but I'm still at the office, 15 minutes early, everyday.
Oh you gotta be kidding. Get a life.
This statement was never false.
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I'm working in the IT department of an hotel chain. The whole work is made using Microsoft technologies (C#/ASP.NET/SQL Server ..) We're working on a new project since June. I see that I'm going good as I did all the tasks that I was asking for in time. But I'm having a problem, I've never been in regular time :) never came at 8 o'clock, always 8,30 - 9 sometimes till 9:30. Are you used to be late ? :confused:
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I'm working in the IT department of an hotel chain. The whole work is made using Microsoft technologies (C#/ASP.NET/SQL Server ..) We're working on a new project since June. I see that I'm going good as I did all the tasks that I was asking for in time. But I'm having a problem, I've never been in regular time :) never came at 8 o'clock, always 8,30 - 9 sometimes till 9:30. Are you used to be late ? :confused:
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I'm working in the IT department of an hotel chain. The whole work is made using Microsoft technologies (C#/ASP.NET/SQL Server ..) We're working on a new project since June. I see that I'm going good as I did all the tasks that I was asking for in time. But I'm having a problem, I've never been in regular time :) never came at 8 o'clock, always 8,30 - 9 sometimes till 9:30. Are you used to be late ? :confused:
I technically start at 9 and finish at 5 but I have an hour and a half commute (lousy temporary living arrangements). Most of my work is reading anyway, so I have permission to leave home at 9, read on the train, leave work at 3:30 and read on the train some more. Mmmm, academia.
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Oh you gotta be kidding. Get a life.
This statement was never false.
I hate lazy people...
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I'm working in the IT department of an hotel chain. The whole work is made using Microsoft technologies (C#/ASP.NET/SQL Server ..) We're working on a new project since June. I see that I'm going good as I did all the tasks that I was asking for in time. But I'm having a problem, I've never been in regular time :) never came at 8 o'clock, always 8,30 - 9 sometimes till 9:30. Are you used to be late ? :confused:
Being late is wrong. I have been in middle management positions where it was my responsibility to cover for people who couldn't make it in on time.(non computer related, of course) I have a friend who has made an art of being late and she gets away with it because she is the only one with any real training in her (medical) field at the company. So you gotta asks yourself, "Am I indispensible?" I keep thinking, someone with her training, willing take less money and would be on time, comes along and she's out of a job. {From your posts grammer,or lack there of it, are you sure your even qualified? lol} Just kidding, you sound a bit nervous. I use to ride the bus to an old job, with over 1/2 mile of walking (which isn't much, I know), since the bus would some times get me there late, I had to ride the bus that came 1 hour earlier. It got me there 35-45 minutes earlier than the other bus would. It drove me nuts, but that's life! How important is this job? Do you have another you can fall back on? What will your Mother/girlfriend say? Face it, being on time is important. BTW: I work alone at home. I even kid-sit while I do it. So the only way I'm late is when I sleep in. :) But, I'm never late for my appointments. 15-25 minutes early. Always. It's called integrity. :cool:
Shohom67
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Normally the works starts at 9:00. 9:35 is the last tolerated time. I rarely arrive before 9:30. Few times (ok, ok, 1-2 days a week) I am late about 10-20min max. Pretty good, isn't it? When I was at university, I ignored pretty much all lectures starting before noon. But then again, so did most of computer science lecturers :)
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Although there are no set hours, I usually get in between 10:00AM and 12:00AM and work till 7:30PM at work then 10:00PM to around 1:30AM at home.
John
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Our time is from 7:30 am to 4:30 am. but I am in around 7:35 usually and out around 6:00 (nowadays, otherwise was leaveing around 7:30). But my salary is getting cut when i cross the limit or 5 grace or 2 late marks (=1 half day).
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"Our time is from 7:30 am to 4:30 am. but I am in around 7:35 usually and out around 6:00 (nowadays, otherwise was leaveing around 7:30). But my salary is getting cut when i cross the limit or 5 grace or 2 late marks (=1 half day)." Cut by who? Do your extra 1.5 hours a day get counted as "early marks"? Do you get extra salary for working longer, or just less salary for working less? It'd be unfair to dock people for arriving late but not reward them for arriving early/leaving late.
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It doesn't bother you that you've given almost your entire waking life over to work? Surely it bothers your SO/friends...
It sure bothers my girlfriend and it does sometimes makes me warn out but for the most part I love my job.
John
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Being late is wrong. I have been in middle management positions where it was my responsibility to cover for people who couldn't make it in on time.(non computer related, of course) I have a friend who has made an art of being late and she gets away with it because she is the only one with any real training in her (medical) field at the company. So you gotta asks yourself, "Am I indispensible?" I keep thinking, someone with her training, willing take less money and would be on time, comes along and she's out of a job. {From your posts grammer,or lack there of it, are you sure your even qualified? lol} Just kidding, you sound a bit nervous. I use to ride the bus to an old job, with over 1/2 mile of walking (which isn't much, I know), since the bus would some times get me there late, I had to ride the bus that came 1 hour earlier. It got me there 35-45 minutes earlier than the other bus would. It drove me nuts, but that's life! How important is this job? Do you have another you can fall back on? What will your Mother/girlfriend say? Face it, being on time is important. BTW: I work alone at home. I even kid-sit while I do it. So the only way I'm late is when I sleep in. :) But, I'm never late for my appointments. 15-25 minutes early. Always. It's called integrity. :cool:
Shohom67
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I'm working in the IT department of an hotel chain. The whole work is made using Microsoft technologies (C#/ASP.NET/SQL Server ..) We're working on a new project since June. I see that I'm going good as I did all the tasks that I was asking for in time. But I'm having a problem, I've never been in regular time :) never came at 8 o'clock, always 8,30 - 9 sometimes till 9:30. Are you used to be late ? :confused:
Yes, I feel your pain. I often chastise myself for being 1 upto 5 minutes late reporting for duty. You see the problem is after rolling out of bed, the kids leave thier toys on the steps which slows me getting to the down stairs office. Working from home can be a b-tch. I am learning to adjust though.
MrPlankton
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I'm working in the IT department of an hotel chain. The whole work is made using Microsoft technologies (C#/ASP.NET/SQL Server ..) We're working on a new project since June. I see that I'm going good as I did all the tasks that I was asking for in time. But I'm having a problem, I've never been in regular time :) never came at 8 o'clock, always 8,30 - 9 sometimes till 9:30. Are you used to be late ? :confused:
My office opens at 8:00. I'm rarely there before 8:30, sometimes as late as 9:30 or 10:00. My boss doesn't complain because he knows I always put in at least 8 hours, usually more, and if they need me to run down to the office at night or on the weekends (I'm the closest to the office) to reboot one of our servers or whatever, I'll do it without complaint. If he tells me he needs me there by 8:00 (for instance, when he's going to be out of the office), I will be there by 8:00. When I'm working at a clients site, I'm there on time. If you have customers that expect you to be at work at a certain time, you should be there. But if your normal job doesn't involve having to answer support calls at 8:00 or whatever, then the work you get done is much more important than the hours you keep.
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I'm working in the IT department of an hotel chain. The whole work is made using Microsoft technologies (C#/ASP.NET/SQL Server ..) We're working on a new project since June. I see that I'm going good as I did all the tasks that I was asking for in time. But I'm having a problem, I've never been in regular time :) never came at 8 o'clock, always 8,30 - 9 sometimes till 9:30. Are you used to be late ? :confused:
You guys really don't know how lucky you all are. Here in Portugal everyone expects people in the IT field to always work extra time and of course, paid overtime is a mirage. I have never heard of anyone here being paid overtime. Companies assume you will be putting on lots of non-paid overtime. Last project I was in, I was arriving at 9:30am-10:30am and would leave work around 1:00am-2:30am, except on fridays. Friday it was normal for the team to leave at 4:00am-6:00am. That's right. 15 to 17 hours always. Sounds like a lie but it isn't. So I understand when some of my friends from other countries say Portugal is a 3rd world country that hasn't abolish slavery. And we don't even earn that good. That's why most people are leaving to other places. Don't want to sound like winning but there is a reason people say you can't hold on to a girl working in the IT industry. And just to end the story, after 10 months I choose to quit because they said I could not take the holidays I had the right to take. Found another job. Maybe it will be this time I will only work 8 hours a day... (crosses fingers) Kind regards.
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shohom67 : Don't you think it is "about what you produce and the quality of your work" as Steve0 thinks and I do ?
aggla wrote:
Don't you think it is "about what you produce and the quality of your work" as Steve0 thinks and I do ?
I think those things are very important. I also think that professional people, like ourselves, should act in a professional manner. Showing up on or before the time you and your employer agreed on, is just one small piece of the puzzle. Plus it will make you boss(es) happy.:)
Shohom67
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Slacker. I leave home at 6:00 a.m., arrive at work at 6:20. I don't go out the door until 4:00 or 4:30, though :sigh:.
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I'm working in the IT department of an hotel chain. The whole work is made using Microsoft technologies (C#/ASP.NET/SQL Server ..) We're working on a new project since June. I see that I'm going good as I did all the tasks that I was asking for in time. But I'm having a problem, I've never been in regular time :) never came at 8 o'clock, always 8,30 - 9 sometimes till 9:30. Are you used to be late ? :confused:
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"Our time is from 7:30 am to 4:30 am. but I am in around 7:35 usually and out around 6:00 (nowadays, otherwise was leaveing around 7:30). But my salary is getting cut when i cross the limit or 5 grace or 2 late marks (=1 half day)." Cut by who? Do your extra 1.5 hours a day get counted as "early marks"? Do you get extra salary for working longer, or just less salary for working less? It'd be unfair to dock people for arriving late but not reward them for arriving early/leaving late.
destynova wrote:
Cut by who?
The accounts dept! which also runs on software we have made! Here staying late is seen as employee's willingness and coming in late or grace period is breach of discipline!
Jwalant Soneji (BE IT) (India) Mobile: +91 9969059127 At Winodows Live Spaces At Yahoo! 360 At BlogSpot
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I'm working in the IT department of an hotel chain. The whole work is made using Microsoft technologies (C#/ASP.NET/SQL Server ..) We're working on a new project since June. I see that I'm going good as I did all the tasks that I was asking for in time. But I'm having a problem, I've never been in regular time :) never came at 8 o'clock, always 8,30 - 9 sometimes till 9:30. Are you used to be late ? :confused:
My office timings are 9:00AM to 6:00PM, but I get to work sometime between 9:30AM and 10:00AM. I am loving it!
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Work the hours that suit you best. A good employer will judge you on output, not attendance. Management by counting heads and looking at a clock is not real management. However, make sure your boss is comfortable with working non-standard hours...
This is the best reply so far. Working hours are for the purpose of supporting the timely running of a company, if your position demands that you be responsible for that operation from a certain time, then so be it, but that also means your responsibilities end at a certain time. Anything beyond that should not be judged on the basis of a time sheet. Most IT professionals are in fact creative sector. By that I mean that they are producing something that cannot (or more accurately should not) be simply churned out assembly line style. Employees today are much too willing to subjugate themselves to the ranks of victorian factory workers. You are not a cog, and the company is not an engine. You are a person and what you produce through your sizeable talents directly translates to profit and respect for your company. The question I would ask isn't "what time is it best for me to get in and not be chastised or feel guilty for being too late" but "what is it really that makes me late?" A company should feel like family, and as such you should feel a genuine happy obligation to arrive at work when expected. But if you don't then the company managers should be asking themselves "why don't our employees want to be here?". JR