Poll: Do you will replace Flash with Silverlight? [modified]
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Do you will replace Flash with Silverlight? I like of criticize MS, but Silverlight really rocks. In years using Flash, I did can just create some banner ads... I found ActionScript an trash and the "Flash IDE" another trash. Now, I will throw both in the trash can and I will be happy! :)
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For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.(John 3:16) :badger:
At this point silverlight isn't quite as advanced as flash, however it does have the elements to grow fast and take a major role in the industry. I think it's a bit early to say that it will replace flash, but it sure looks promising. I've created some small web interfaces using silverlight and I'm impressed by it's animation capabilities. One other thing that really makes it interesting for me is XAML. I'm not someone that uses drawing tools alot. I like to code, so XAML is a very good option for me.
WM. What about weapons of mass-construction? "What? Its an Apple MacBook Pro. They are sexy!" - Paul Watson My blog
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Do you will replace Flash with Silverlight? I like of criticize MS, but Silverlight really rocks. In years using Flash, I did can just create some banner ads... I found ActionScript an trash and the "Flash IDE" another trash. Now, I will throw both in the trash can and I will be happy! :)
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For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.(John 3:16) :badger:
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ActionScript is fine IMHO, but the "IDE" (by name only) is horrid. Although i think Silverlight is a little overrated and Flash continue to will exist alongside it for a number of years. You know, i'm glad you made those banner ads in Silverlight...because for as long as i boycot Silverlight, i won't see them:-> Roswell
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Flash continue to will exist
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ClickOk wrote:
Do you will replace Flash
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Do you will replace Flash with Silverlight? I like of criticize MS, but Silverlight really rocks. In years using Flash, I did can just create some banner ads... I found ActionScript an trash and the "Flash IDE" another trash. Now, I will throw both in the trash can and I will be happy! :)
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For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.(John 3:16) :badger:
I hope so. Flash does some cool stuff, but I hate working with ActionScript.
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Do you will replace Flash with Silverlight? I like of criticize MS, but Silverlight really rocks. In years using Flash, I did can just create some banner ads... I found ActionScript an trash and the "Flash IDE" another trash. Now, I will throw both in the trash can and I will be happy! :)
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For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.(John 3:16) :badger:
You might want to wait until people other than developers can actually view Silverlight content. Flash has very good distribution while Silverlight is far too new. I'd also wait a few versions. Silverlight as it is now regularly crashes Firefox on Mac OS X.
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Andy Brummer wrote:
Watson's law: As an online discussion of cars grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving the Bugatti Veyron approaches one.
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Do you will replace Flash with Silverlight? I like of criticize MS, but Silverlight really rocks. In years using Flash, I did can just create some banner ads... I found ActionScript an trash and the "Flash IDE" another trash. Now, I will throw both in the trash can and I will be happy! :)
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For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.(John 3:16) :badger:
Funny enough, a WPF vs Flash[^] article has just been published at CP. OT: Why do I even see this article? I have the MFC/C++ view turned on :~
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ActionScript is fine IMHO, but the "IDE" (by name only) is horrid. Although i think Silverlight is a little overrated and Flash continue to will exist alongside it for a number of years. You know, i'm glad you made those banner ads in Silverlight...because for as long as i boycot Silverlight, i won't see them:-> Roswell
"Angelinos -- excuse me. There will be civility today."
Antonio VillaRaigosa
City Mayor, Los Angeles, CARoswellNX wrote:
You know, i'm glad you made those banner ads in Silverlight...because for as long as i boycot Silverlight, i won't see them:->
And you can to wonder that some of mine customers asked to me banner ads in Java Applets! ;P
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.(John 3:16) :badger:
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At this point silverlight isn't quite as advanced as flash, however it does have the elements to grow fast and take a major role in the industry. I think it's a bit early to say that it will replace flash, but it sure looks promising. I've created some small web interfaces using silverlight and I'm impressed by it's animation capabilities. One other thing that really makes it interesting for me is XAML. I'm not someone that uses drawing tools alot. I like to code, so XAML is a very good option for me.
WM. What about weapons of mass-construction? "What? Its an Apple MacBook Pro. They are sexy!" - Paul Watson My blog
WillemM wrote:
I'm not someone that uses drawing tools alot. I like to code, so XAML is a very good option for me.
Me too. It's the main point for me to use Silverlight.
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.(John 3:16) :badger:
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Yes I can't write or have any urge to write flash. I can use WPF/c# so it a natural choice for using SilverLight 1.1
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You might want to wait until people other than developers can actually view Silverlight content. Flash has very good distribution while Silverlight is far too new. I'd also wait a few versions. Silverlight as it is now regularly crashes Firefox on Mac OS X.
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Andy Brummer wrote:
Watson's law: As an online discussion of cars grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving the Bugatti Veyron approaches one.
Paul Watson wrote:
You might want to wait until people other than developers can actually view Silverlight content.
The good here is that Microsoft will take care for me. Probably MS will launch built-in Silverlight in the Vista SP1, or IE7.
Paul Watson wrote:
I'd also wait a few versions. Silverlight as it is now regularly crashes Firefox on Mac OS X.
It's a good reason to wait!
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.(John 3:16) :badger:
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Funny enough, a WPF vs Flash[^] article has just been published at CP. OT: Why do I even see this article? I have the MFC/C++ view turned on :~
Nemanja Trifunovic wrote:
OT: Why do I even see this article? I have the MFC/C++ view turned on :~
Because of the WHF (Windows Hypnosis Foundation). :rolleyes:
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.(John 3:16) :badger:
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Paul Watson wrote:
You might want to wait until people other than developers can actually view Silverlight content.
The good here is that Microsoft will take care for me. Probably MS will launch built-in Silverlight in the Vista SP1, or IE7.
Paul Watson wrote:
I'd also wait a few versions. Silverlight as it is now regularly crashes Firefox on Mac OS X.
It's a good reason to wait!
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.(John 3:16) :badger:
Clickok wrote:
robably MS will launch built-in Silverlight in the Vista SP1, or IE7.
Do you have any evidence for this? IE7 has been out awhile now and any Silverlight inclusion in future downloads is going to miss out on the decent numbers of people who have already upgraded to IE7. I don't see it happening. As for Vista Service Pack 1 I thought that was more a security and stability service pack and not a new-features update. There is considerable risk deploying something like Silverlight in an operating system service pack. Maybe the next client version of the .NET Framework rather?
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Andy Brummer wrote:
Watson's law: As an online discussion of cars grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving the Bugatti Veyron approaches one.
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Clickok wrote:
robably MS will launch built-in Silverlight in the Vista SP1, or IE7.
Do you have any evidence for this? IE7 has been out awhile now and any Silverlight inclusion in future downloads is going to miss out on the decent numbers of people who have already upgraded to IE7. I don't see it happening. As for Vista Service Pack 1 I thought that was more a security and stability service pack and not a new-features update. There is considerable risk deploying something like Silverlight in an operating system service pack. Maybe the next client version of the .NET Framework rather?
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Andy Brummer wrote:
Watson's law: As an online discussion of cars grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving the Bugatti Veyron approaches one.
Paul Watson wrote:
Do you have any evidence for this? IE7 has been out awhile now and any Silverlight inclusion in future downloads is going to miss out on the decent numbers of people who have already upgraded to IE7. I don't see it happening.
Really, for IE7 is hard, and the "update cycle" for the next IE8 must take 1 year or 2...
Paul Watson wrote:
As for Vista Service Pack 1 I thought that was more a security and stability service pack and not a new-features update. There is considerable risk deploying something like Silverlight in an operating system service pack. Maybe the next client version of the .NET Framework rather?
It's my guess. The Vista SP1 must comes with built-it .Net 3.5 (what I think that the final version comes with Silverlight 1.1). And MS have the precedent that in Windows 95 days, the OS cames with Flash and Shockwave plug-ins built-in, it's fair to think in Silverlight in the next Vista version.
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.(John 3:16) :badger:
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Do you will replace Flash with Silverlight? I like of criticize MS, but Silverlight really rocks. In years using Flash, I did can just create some banner ads... I found ActionScript an trash and the "Flash IDE" another trash. Now, I will throw both in the trash can and I will be happy! :)
Last modified: 47mins after originally posted --
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.(John 3:16) :badger:
Clickok wrote:
In years using Flash, I did can just create some banner ads... I found ActionScript an trash and the "Flash IDE" another trash.
What? Marc
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Do you will replace Flash with Silverlight? I like of criticize MS, but Silverlight really rocks. In years using Flash, I did can just create some banner ads... I found ActionScript an trash and the "Flash IDE" another trash. Now, I will throw both in the trash can and I will be happy! :)
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For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.(John 3:16) :badger:
Yep! Flash will become the furture Firefox unless they get the move on and take MS seriously. Ms is serious and I doubt Flash will be much of an issue by Silverlight 3.0. That said though, one of the most important roles for Silverlight coming up is allowing .NET programmers in the client side cross-platform. While there is a bit of a learning curve for developers who do not know .NET 3.5/WPF, you can use all your currently knowledge of .NET and bring that to the client side. Lot better than learning a new system with Flash/Flex/??.. The issue at hand is to bridge the gap between client side web/ asp.net / desktop development and WPF/Silverlight is an answer. Here on CP, I see a lot of developers bashing Silverlight and at times WPF as just another eye candy toy that no "real" developers will probably ever use. Those statements show they have not even started to learn the technology nor see the direction it is all moving. Unified development for client/web/desktop all using .NET technologies and your favorite development languages and libraries. Hmmm.. Future is a looking bright! Guess it is time for bed now :)
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Do you will replace Flash with Silverlight? I like of criticize MS, but Silverlight really rocks. In years using Flash, I did can just create some banner ads... I found ActionScript an trash and the "Flash IDE" another trash. Now, I will throw both in the trash can and I will be happy! :)
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For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.(John 3:16) :badger:
Maybe. I've been considering it. Silverlight has a lot of potential. I guess we'll see how well Microsoft comes through on that. Silverlight currently has a number of things going against it: * Expression (the only current designer) only works on Windows. Most designers user Macs, or at least a large percentage do. This makes it hard to find artists and scripters. This will change. I hope MS will come out with Mac versions of Expression. Mono is also working on a designer for Moonlight (the Linux version of Silverlight). * Lack of experienced designers. * Lack of deployed clients * Large download for client compared to FlashPlayer (requires a subset of .NET runtime). On the other hand, there's a lot of advantages to Silverlight too. * XAML based, which makes it easier to auto-generate interface code * .NET based library, which means you can reflect or decompile it to see what's going on ;) * easier to integrate into .NET apps * integration with Visual Studio My answer is "I'm going to wait and see, but I'll play around with it in the meantime."
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