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.NET Framework Source Code to be released [modified]

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  • P peterchen

    But it also means more people will write code against the actual implementation, rather than against documentation. If Raymond Chen was dead, he'd be spinning in his grave right now. TODO: link to appropriate dilbert cartoon [edit] It's great news for sure, but someone has to point out the grain of salt


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    The grain of salt for me is that I'm a C++ programmer - a second-class citizen in the VS world. :beer:

    Mark Salsbery Microsoft MVP - Visual C++ :java:

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    • R Robert Royall

      That noise you are hearing now is the sound of 1000 Mono developers' hearts breaking. Or maybe they're changing their pants. I'm not sure yet.

      Please don't bother me... I'm hacking right now. Don't look at me like that - doesn't anybody remember what "hacking" really means? :sigh:

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      I don't know. If it's a reference only license I am betting they need to continue with their implementations. At least that is what I understood from reading the license page.

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      • M Mark Salsbery

        The grain of salt for me is that I'm a C++ programmer - a second-class citizen in the VS world. :beer:

        Mark Salsbery Microsoft MVP - Visual C++ :java:

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        You are The Source, Mark! :D


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        • R Robert Royall

          That noise you are hearing now is the sound of 1000 Mono developers' hearts breaking. Or maybe they're changing their pants. I'm not sure yet.

          Please don't bother me... I'm hacking right now. Don't look at me like that - doesn't anybody remember what "hacking" really means? :sigh:

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          Pete OHanlon
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          Robert Royall wrote:

          That noise you are hearing now is the sound of 1000 Mono developers' hearts breaking. Or maybe they're changing their pants. I'm not sure yet.

          Nope - it's not going to affect the Mono team at all. They'll still continue to implement features from the next version of .NET and leave the basics out from the current version.

          Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

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            You are The Source, Mark! :D


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            Heh.  The Source of What? Hour old news, apparently :)

            Mark Salsbery Microsoft MVP - Visual C++ :java:

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              Heh.  The Source of What? Hour old news, apparently :)

              Mark Salsbery Microsoft MVP - Visual C++ :java:

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              Mark Salsbery wrote:

              of What

              Douglas Adams taught me to avoid that question - by putting it into capital letters: You are THE SOURCE, Mark!

              Mark Salsbery wrote:

              Hour old news, apparently

              :laugh: happens to the best


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              • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                From Scott Guthrie's blog: We'll begin by offering the source code (with source file comments included) for the .NET Base Class Libraries (System, System.IO, System.Collections, System.Configuration, System.Threading, System.Net, System.Security, System.Runtime, System.Text, etc), ASP.NET (System.Web), Windows Forms (System.Windows.Forms), ADO.NET (System.Data), XML (System.Xml), and WPF (System.Windows). We'll then be adding more libraries in the months ahead (including WCF, Workflow, and LINQ). The source code will be released under the Microsoft Reference License (MS-RL). :jig: What's even more interesting: We will also provide integrated debugging support of it within VS 2008. :jig::jig::jig::jig: Read it all here: http://weblogs.asp.net/scottgu/archive/2007/10/03/releasing-the-source-code-for-the-net-framework-libraries.aspx[^] Also when you are visiting the blog site please check out the banner on the right side.;)

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                I'll believe it when I see it (maybe).

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                • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                  From Scott Guthrie's blog: We'll begin by offering the source code (with source file comments included) for the .NET Base Class Libraries (System, System.IO, System.Collections, System.Configuration, System.Threading, System.Net, System.Security, System.Runtime, System.Text, etc), ASP.NET (System.Web), Windows Forms (System.Windows.Forms), ADO.NET (System.Data), XML (System.Xml), and WPF (System.Windows). We'll then be adding more libraries in the months ahead (including WCF, Workflow, and LINQ). The source code will be released under the Microsoft Reference License (MS-RL). :jig: What's even more interesting: We will also provide integrated debugging support of it within VS 2008. :jig::jig::jig::jig: Read it all here: http://weblogs.asp.net/scottgu/archive/2007/10/03/releasing-the-source-code-for-the-net-framework-libraries.aspx[^] Also when you are visiting the blog site please check out the banner on the right side.;)

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                  Maybe this will inspire MONO to finally get their shit together and finish the .net 2 stuff at least.


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                  • P Pete OHanlon

                    Robert Royall wrote:

                    That noise you are hearing now is the sound of 1000 Mono developers' hearts breaking. Or maybe they're changing their pants. I'm not sure yet.

                    Nope - it's not going to affect the Mono team at all. They'll still continue to implement features from the next version of .NET and leave the basics out from the current version.

                    Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

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                    :laugh: I see I'm not the only one who noticed that.


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                    • P Patrick Etc

                      Judah Himango wrote:

                      That's pretty cool having a celebrity dev like Scott recommending Rama's book, I must say.

                      Ohhh, that's pretty awesome!! :)


                      The early bird who catches the worm works for someone who comes in late and owns the worm farm. -- Travis McGee

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                      Patrick Sears wrote:

                      Ohhh, that's pretty awesome!!

                      So is the book, my copy arrived 2 days ago. Very impressed. Guy H

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                        :laugh: I see I'm not the only one who noticed that.


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                        Yup, me too - that's why I'm still developing in Windows! :)

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                        • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                          From Scott Guthrie's blog: We'll begin by offering the source code (with source file comments included) for the .NET Base Class Libraries (System, System.IO, System.Collections, System.Configuration, System.Threading, System.Net, System.Security, System.Runtime, System.Text, etc), ASP.NET (System.Web), Windows Forms (System.Windows.Forms), ADO.NET (System.Data), XML (System.Xml), and WPF (System.Windows). We'll then be adding more libraries in the months ahead (including WCF, Workflow, and LINQ). The source code will be released under the Microsoft Reference License (MS-RL). :jig: What's even more interesting: We will also provide integrated debugging support of it within VS 2008. :jig::jig::jig::jig: Read it all here: http://weblogs.asp.net/scottgu/archive/2007/10/03/releasing-the-source-code-for-the-net-framework-libraries.aspx[^] Also when you are visiting the blog site please check out the banner on the right side.;)

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                          cablesforless
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                          2 words - .net & reflector. The source was already out. But we're happy that it's legal.... That makes me happy.

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                          • M Mark Salsbery

                            The grain of salt for me is that I'm a C++ programmer - a second-class citizen in the VS world. :beer:

                            Mark Salsbery Microsoft MVP - Visual C++ :java:

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                            Be glad you're not a 3rd class VBer. ;)


                            Try code model generation tools at BoneSoft.com.

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                              Be glad you're not a 3rd class VBer. ;)


                              Try code model generation tools at BoneSoft.com.

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                              There's a class for VBers? ;P

                              Mark Salsbery Microsoft MVP - Visual C++ :java:

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                              • M Mark Salsbery

                                There's a class for VBers? ;P

                                Mark Salsbery Microsoft MVP - Visual C++ :java:

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                                Yep, "Starting C# 101". Don't know how many showed up for class though... :laugh:


                                Try code model generation tools at BoneSoft.com.

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                                  Yep, "Starting C# 101". Don't know how many showed up for class though... :laugh:


                                  Try code model generation tools at BoneSoft.com.

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                                  :laugh::laugh:

                                  Mark Salsbery Microsoft MVP - Visual C++ :java:

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