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Do you prefer working for a large or small company?

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  • C Christian Graus

    dan neely wrote:

    ~20 on my program, I'm the only person writing code for my application.

    What do the other 19 odd people do then ?

    Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )

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    Dan Neely
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    Mostly EE's and management, there's a second similar sized app being worked on by a second dev.

    -- If you view money as inherently evil, I view it as my duty to assist in making you more virtuous.

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    • E El Corazon

      Josh Smith wrote:

      Man, you're creepy! Is that[^] you?!

      worse, I am larger still! http://www.zianet.com/jjustinb/aboutme.html[^] hopefully I won't look like that for at least another 20 years. ;P Not positive who that is, but I don't know all the native american flute players.

      _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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      Josh Smith
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      El Corazon wrote:

      Not positive who that is, but I don't know all the native american flute players.

      I think you mean flautists, right? ;P

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        El Corazon wrote:

        Not positive who that is, but I don't know all the native american flute players.

        I think you mean flautists, right? ;P

        :josh: My WPF Blog[^] Without a strive for perfection I would be terribly bored.

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        Patrick Etc
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        Josh Smith wrote:

        I think you mean flautists, right?

        I realize this is cliche' but everytime I see that word I read it as 'flatulist'. Which has a much different meaning. Although they do both involve the passage of air through an aperture which vibrates as a result :)


        The early bird who catches the worm works for someone who comes in late and owns the worm farm. -- Travis McGee

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        • P Patrick Etc

          Josh Smith wrote:

          I think you mean flautists, right?

          I realize this is cliche' but everytime I see that word I read it as 'flatulist'. Which has a much different meaning. Although they do both involve the passage of air through an aperture which vibrates as a result :)


          The early bird who catches the worm works for someone who comes in late and owns the worm farm. -- Travis McGee

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          Josh Smith
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          Patrick Sears wrote:

          I realize this is cliche' but everytime I see that word I read it as 'flatulist'. Which has a much different meaning. Although they do both involve the passage of air through an aperture which vibrates as a result

          Did I ever tell you about the time when I was at band camp...?

          :josh: My WPF Blog[^] Without a strive for perfection I would be terribly bored.

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            Josh Smith wrote:

            I think you mean flautists, right?

            I realize this is cliche' but everytime I see that word I read it as 'flatulist'. Which has a much different meaning. Although they do both involve the passage of air through an aperture which vibrates as a result :)


            The early bird who catches the worm works for someone who comes in late and owns the worm farm. -- Travis McGee

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            Big Daddy Farang
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            Good one! (It could also be 'flutist' but that wouldn't have the same comedic possibilities.) BDF

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            • B Big Daddy Farang

              I prefer a small company as well. At least I think I do, having never worked in a large IT department environment. Currently, I am one of four developers; I work alone for the most part. Before this job I was the only developer in that company. Before that I worked for a consulting firm, went to various clients as a contract employee, in most cases alone or a small team. My perception is that with a larger company, you get more office politics, more meetings that waste time, and similar things I'd rather avoid. Regards, BDF

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              NormDroid
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              Never wondered why large company like wasting so much money and time on meeting and stretching project to eternity.

              It takes Chuck Norris 20 minutes to watch 60 Minutes.

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              • N NormDroid

                Never wondered why large company like wasting so much money and time on meeting and stretching project to eternity.

                It takes Chuck Norris 20 minutes to watch 60 Minutes.

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                Josh Smith
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                norm .net wrote:

                It takes Chuck Norris 20 minutes to watch 60 Minutes.

                15 of those minutes are spent killing people.

                :josh: My WPF Blog[^] Without a strive for perfection I would be terribly bored.

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                • J Josh Smith

                  Patrick Sears wrote:

                  I realize this is cliche' but everytime I see that word I read it as 'flatulist'. Which has a much different meaning. Although they do both involve the passage of air through an aperture which vibrates as a result

                  Did I ever tell you about the time when I was at band camp...?

                  :josh: My WPF Blog[^] Without a strive for perfection I would be terribly bored.

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                  Patrick Etc
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                  Josh Smith wrote:

                  Did I ever tell you about the time when I was at band camp...?

                  "This one time, at band camp...!!!" Did you know they made an American Pie: Band Camp movie? The unedited version is rather... risque.


                  The early bird who catches the worm works for someone who comes in late and owns the worm farm. -- Travis McGee

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                  • L led mike

                    I work in a large company, fortune 50, but a medium sized shop, about 20 developers. Most of them don't know what a new CIS graduate would know. There is no one I can ask when I need help. One of our senior devs (15 years) tells me he doesn't believe in Patterns. Our current technical leaders think that Agile means you don't create any design artifacts ( that's because they can't design their way out of a wet paper bag ) while each developer writes spaghetti code in isolation and there are no code reviews. This all results in code that looks like it was written by an epileptic ferret. Our manager brings doughnuts every Wednesday and we have a half dozen Pizza (delivered) parties during the year.... these are a source of great excitement. I don't want to relocate so opportunities are limited and I am paid a ridiculous amount for the work I don't do.

                    Miszou wrote:

                    Personally, I'd take a small company any day of the week.

                    Personally, I'm looking forward to retirement.

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                    Judah Gabriel Himango
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                    Dear Lord...that sounds terrible, Mike.

                    led mike wrote:

                    I don't want to relocate so opportunities are limited and I am paid a ridiculous amount for the work I don't do.

                    Yes, but something must be said for one's own personal happiness and satisfaction. Personally, I cannot put a price on working at a job I enjoy doing. It positively affects my day-to-day happiness and mood.

                    Tech, life, family, faith: Give me a visit. I'm currently blogging about: Feast of Tabernacles (audio) The apostle Paul, modernly speaking: Epistles of Paul Judah Himango

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                      Josh Smith wrote:

                      Did I ever tell you about the time when I was at band camp...?

                      "This one time, at band camp...!!!" Did you know they made an American Pie: Band Camp movie? The unedited version is rather... risque.


                      The early bird who catches the worm works for someone who comes in late and owns the worm farm. -- Travis McGee

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                      Josh Smith
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                      Patrick Sears wrote:

                      Did you know they made an American Pie: Band Camp movie? The unedited version is rather... risque.

                      They played a lot of atonal marching music?

                      :josh: My WPF Blog[^] Without a strive for perfection I would be terribly bored.

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                      • J Judah Gabriel Himango

                        Dear Lord...that sounds terrible, Mike.

                        led mike wrote:

                        I don't want to relocate so opportunities are limited and I am paid a ridiculous amount for the work I don't do.

                        Yes, but something must be said for one's own personal happiness and satisfaction. Personally, I cannot put a price on working at a job I enjoy doing. It positively affects my day-to-day happiness and mood.

                        Tech, life, family, faith: Give me a visit. I'm currently blogging about: Feast of Tabernacles (audio) The apostle Paul, modernly speaking: Epistles of Paul Judah Himango

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                        led mike
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                        Judah Himango wrote:

                        Dear Lord...that sounds terrible, Mike.

                        Not really... it's worse than that. ;P Most of them don't know about the stack and the heap let alone what the difference is. Then of course there are all the other aspects of computer architecture that are complete mysteries to them as well. And they are all perfectly happy with that situation.

                        Judah Himango wrote:

                        but something must be said for one's own personal happiness and satisfaction.

                        I agree. I previously worked for small companies with very capable people. It was fun and interesting but I didn't make a lot of money and they all went out of business. Currently I am settling for deriving my happiness from my personal life which doesn't suck because I have enough money and am a hot chick magnet. :laugh:

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                        • J Josh Smith

                          Patrick Sears wrote:

                          Did you know they made an American Pie: Band Camp movie? The unedited version is rather... risque.

                          They played a lot of atonal marching music?

                          :josh: My WPF Blog[^] Without a strive for perfection I would be terribly bored.

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                          Patrick Etc
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                          Josh Smith wrote:

                          They played a lot of atonal marching music?

                          You're so bad. :cool:


                          The early bird who catches the worm works for someone who comes in late and owns the worm farm. -- Travis McGee

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                            Josh Smith wrote:

                            They played a lot of atonal marching music?

                            You're so bad. :cool:


                            The early bird who catches the worm works for someone who comes in late and owns the worm farm. -- Travis McGee

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                            Josh Smith
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                            Patrick Sears wrote:

                            You're so bad.

                            That's what she said. :-> Oh wait...nevermind.... :-D

                            :josh: My WPF Blog[^] Without a strive for perfection I would be terribly bored.

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                              El Corazon wrote:

                              Not positive who that is, but I don't know all the native american flute players.

                              I think you mean flautists, right? ;P

                              :josh: My WPF Blog[^] Without a strive for perfection I would be terribly bored.

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                              El Corazon
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                              Josh Smith wrote:

                              flautists

                              gesundheit! ;P

                              _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                              • E El Corazon

                                Josh Smith wrote:

                                flautists

                                gesundheit! ;P

                                _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                                Josh Smith
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                                El Corazon wrote:

                                gesundheit!

                                Danke! :)

                                :josh: My WPF Blog[^] Without a strive for perfection I would be terribly bored.

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                                • M Miszou

                                  Would you generally prefer to work in a large company with a large IT department, or a small company where there are only a handful of developers? Each has advantages I think, but I'll provide a few anecdotal tales here for reference. Several years ago, I worked in a software house with about 50 other software engineers. There were multiple teams of people working on multiple projects. If you needed help with something, there was always someone who could help. After a while, each person fell into a niche area of expertise (mine was the tree control for some reason!). Keep in mind that at this time, there was only one computer connected to the Internet via dial-up, and the quarterly MSDN updates were a source of great excitement. So, having such a large and varied group of software developers was a huge bonus, as there was always someone to share ideas with. Conversely, at my current position I am one of only three developers and I am solely responsible for the new in-house application to replace their legacy system. The other 2 guys are the team leader and the website developer. We are a very close team and get along really well. The small company atmosphere (as well as the nature of our business) means that everyone is pretty relaxed. I'm not really sure where I'm going with this post - I'm really just curious if people prefer a large or small company. Personally, I'd take a small company any day of the week.


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                                  Bassam Abdul Baki
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                                  No.


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                                  • M Miszou

                                    Would you generally prefer to work in a large company with a large IT department, or a small company where there are only a handful of developers? Each has advantages I think, but I'll provide a few anecdotal tales here for reference. Several years ago, I worked in a software house with about 50 other software engineers. There were multiple teams of people working on multiple projects. If you needed help with something, there was always someone who could help. After a while, each person fell into a niche area of expertise (mine was the tree control for some reason!). Keep in mind that at this time, there was only one computer connected to the Internet via dial-up, and the quarterly MSDN updates were a source of great excitement. So, having such a large and varied group of software developers was a huge bonus, as there was always someone to share ideas with. Conversely, at my current position I am one of only three developers and I am solely responsible for the new in-house application to replace their legacy system. The other 2 guys are the team leader and the website developer. We are a very close team and get along really well. The small company atmosphere (as well as the nature of our business) means that everyone is pretty relaxed. I'm not really sure where I'm going with this post - I'm really just curious if people prefer a large or small company. Personally, I'd take a small company any day of the week.


                                    Sunrise Wallpaper Project | The StartPage Randomizer | The Windows Cheerleader

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                                    Pete OHanlon
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                                    I prefer working at a small company, and if I ever manage to get it to grow bigger then I'll prefer to work at a large company.;)

                                    Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

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                                    • L led mike

                                      Judah Himango wrote:

                                      Dear Lord...that sounds terrible, Mike.

                                      Not really... it's worse than that. ;P Most of them don't know about the stack and the heap let alone what the difference is. Then of course there are all the other aspects of computer architecture that are complete mysteries to them as well. And they are all perfectly happy with that situation.

                                      Judah Himango wrote:

                                      but something must be said for one's own personal happiness and satisfaction.

                                      I agree. I previously worked for small companies with very capable people. It was fun and interesting but I didn't make a lot of money and they all went out of business. Currently I am settling for deriving my happiness from my personal life which doesn't suck because I have enough money and am a hot chick magnet. :laugh:

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                                      Patrick Etc
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                                      led mike wrote:

                                      Most of them don't know about the stack and the heap let alone what the difference is.

                                      Pbbbt, that's easy. The more ram a machine has, the more you can say "it has a whole heap 'o memory." Duh. As for the stack, it's dangerous to stack more than two computers on top of each other, because it can make your programs run slow. ... Ok, I'm done. I admit those are pretty bad. Don't judge me, you're not even trying. :D :cool:


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                                        led mike wrote:

                                        Most of them don't know about the stack and the heap let alone what the difference is.

                                        Pbbbt, that's easy. The more ram a machine has, the more you can say "it has a whole heap 'o memory." Duh. As for the stack, it's dangerous to stack more than two computers on top of each other, because it can make your programs run slow. ... Ok, I'm done. I admit those are pretty bad. Don't judge me, you're not even trying. :D :cool:


                                        The early bird who catches the worm works for someone who comes in late and owns the worm farm. -- Travis McGee

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                                        Dan Neely
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                                        Patrick Sears wrote:

                                        As for the stack, it's dangerous to stack more than two computers on top of each other, because it can make your programs run slow.

                                        no, no, no. It's not a speed issue, it's stability. Normal PC cases weren't designed to be stacked and are much more likely to crash if stacked.

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                                          Patrick Sears wrote:

                                          As for the stack, it's dangerous to stack more than two computers on top of each other, because it can make your programs run slow.

                                          no, no, no. It's not a speed issue, it's stability. Normal PC cases weren't designed to be stacked and are much more likely to crash if stacked.

                                          -- If you view money as inherently evil, I view it as my duty to assist in making you more virtuous.

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                                          led mike
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                                          dan neely wrote:

                                          Normal PC cases weren't designed to be stacked and are much more likely to crash if stacked.

                                          That's why you need the IRack!

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