Do you prefer working for a large or small company?
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Patrick Sears wrote:
I realize this is cliche' but everytime I see that word I read it as 'flatulist'. Which has a much different meaning. Although they do both involve the passage of air through an aperture which vibrates as a result
Did I ever tell you about the time when I was at band camp...?
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Josh Smith wrote:
Did I ever tell you about the time when I was at band camp...?
"This one time, at band camp...!!!" Did you know they made an American Pie: Band Camp movie? The unedited version is rather... risque.
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I work in a large company, fortune 50, but a medium sized shop, about 20 developers. Most of them don't know what a new CIS graduate would know. There is no one I can ask when I need help. One of our senior devs (15 years) tells me he doesn't believe in Patterns. Our current technical leaders think that Agile means you don't create any design artifacts ( that's because they can't design their way out of a wet paper bag ) while each developer writes spaghetti code in isolation and there are no code reviews. This all results in code that looks like it was written by an epileptic ferret. Our manager brings doughnuts every Wednesday and we have a half dozen Pizza (delivered) parties during the year.... these are a source of great excitement. I don't want to relocate so opportunities are limited and I am paid a ridiculous amount for the work I don't do.
Miszou wrote:
Personally, I'd take a small company any day of the week.
Personally, I'm looking forward to retirement.
Dear Lord...that sounds terrible, Mike.
led mike wrote:
I don't want to relocate so opportunities are limited and I am paid a ridiculous amount for the work I don't do.
Yes, but something must be said for one's own personal happiness and satisfaction. Personally, I cannot put a price on working at a job I enjoy doing. It positively affects my day-to-day happiness and mood.
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Josh Smith wrote:
Did I ever tell you about the time when I was at band camp...?
"This one time, at band camp...!!!" Did you know they made an American Pie: Band Camp movie? The unedited version is rather... risque.
The early bird who catches the worm works for someone who comes in late and owns the worm farm. -- Travis McGee
Patrick Sears wrote:
Did you know they made an American Pie: Band Camp movie? The unedited version is rather... risque.
They played a lot of atonal marching music?
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Dear Lord...that sounds terrible, Mike.
led mike wrote:
I don't want to relocate so opportunities are limited and I am paid a ridiculous amount for the work I don't do.
Yes, but something must be said for one's own personal happiness and satisfaction. Personally, I cannot put a price on working at a job I enjoy doing. It positively affects my day-to-day happiness and mood.
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Judah Himango wrote:
Dear Lord...that sounds terrible, Mike.
Not really... it's worse than that. ;P Most of them don't know about the stack and the heap let alone what the difference is. Then of course there are all the other aspects of computer architecture that are complete mysteries to them as well. And they are all perfectly happy with that situation.
Judah Himango wrote:
but something must be said for one's own personal happiness and satisfaction.
I agree. I previously worked for small companies with very capable people. It was fun and interesting but I didn't make a lot of money and they all went out of business. Currently I am settling for deriving my happiness from my personal life which doesn't suck because I have enough money and am a hot chick magnet. :laugh:
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Patrick Sears wrote:
Did you know they made an American Pie: Band Camp movie? The unedited version is rather... risque.
They played a lot of atonal marching music?
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Josh Smith wrote:
They played a lot of atonal marching music?
You're so bad. :cool:
The early bird who catches the worm works for someone who comes in late and owns the worm farm. -- Travis McGee
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Josh Smith wrote:
They played a lot of atonal marching music?
You're so bad. :cool:
The early bird who catches the worm works for someone who comes in late and owns the worm farm. -- Travis McGee
Patrick Sears wrote:
You're so bad.
That's what she said. :-> Oh wait...nevermind.... :-D
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El Corazon wrote:
Not positive who that is, but I don't know all the native american flute players.
I think you mean flautists, right? ;P
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Josh Smith wrote:
flautists
gesundheit! ;P
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Josh Smith wrote:
flautists
gesundheit! ;P
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
El Corazon wrote:
gesundheit!
Danke! :)
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Would you generally prefer to work in a large company with a large IT department, or a small company where there are only a handful of developers? Each has advantages I think, but I'll provide a few anecdotal tales here for reference. Several years ago, I worked in a software house with about 50 other software engineers. There were multiple teams of people working on multiple projects. If you needed help with something, there was always someone who could help. After a while, each person fell into a niche area of expertise (mine was the tree control for some reason!). Keep in mind that at this time, there was only one computer connected to the Internet via dial-up, and the quarterly MSDN updates were a source of great excitement. So, having such a large and varied group of software developers was a huge bonus, as there was always someone to share ideas with. Conversely, at my current position I am one of only three developers and I am solely responsible for the new in-house application to replace their legacy system. The other 2 guys are the team leader and the website developer. We are a very close team and get along really well. The small company atmosphere (as well as the nature of our business) means that everyone is pretty relaxed. I'm not really sure where I'm going with this post - I'm really just curious if people prefer a large or small company. Personally, I'd take a small company any day of the week.
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Would you generally prefer to work in a large company with a large IT department, or a small company where there are only a handful of developers? Each has advantages I think, but I'll provide a few anecdotal tales here for reference. Several years ago, I worked in a software house with about 50 other software engineers. There were multiple teams of people working on multiple projects. If you needed help with something, there was always someone who could help. After a while, each person fell into a niche area of expertise (mine was the tree control for some reason!). Keep in mind that at this time, there was only one computer connected to the Internet via dial-up, and the quarterly MSDN updates were a source of great excitement. So, having such a large and varied group of software developers was a huge bonus, as there was always someone to share ideas with. Conversely, at my current position I am one of only three developers and I am solely responsible for the new in-house application to replace their legacy system. The other 2 guys are the team leader and the website developer. We are a very close team and get along really well. The small company atmosphere (as well as the nature of our business) means that everyone is pretty relaxed. I'm not really sure where I'm going with this post - I'm really just curious if people prefer a large or small company. Personally, I'd take a small company any day of the week.
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I prefer working at a small company, and if I ever manage to get it to grow bigger then I'll prefer to work at a large company.;)
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Judah Himango wrote:
Dear Lord...that sounds terrible, Mike.
Not really... it's worse than that. ;P Most of them don't know about the stack and the heap let alone what the difference is. Then of course there are all the other aspects of computer architecture that are complete mysteries to them as well. And they are all perfectly happy with that situation.
Judah Himango wrote:
but something must be said for one's own personal happiness and satisfaction.
I agree. I previously worked for small companies with very capable people. It was fun and interesting but I didn't make a lot of money and they all went out of business. Currently I am settling for deriving my happiness from my personal life which doesn't suck because I have enough money and am a hot chick magnet. :laugh:
led mike wrote:
Most of them don't know about the stack and the heap let alone what the difference is.
Pbbbt, that's easy. The more ram a machine has, the more you can say "it has a whole heap 'o memory." Duh. As for the stack, it's dangerous to stack more than two computers on top of each other, because it can make your programs run slow. ... Ok, I'm done. I admit those are pretty bad. Don't judge me, you're not even trying. :D :cool:
The early bird who catches the worm works for someone who comes in late and owns the worm farm. -- Travis McGee
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led mike wrote:
Most of them don't know about the stack and the heap let alone what the difference is.
Pbbbt, that's easy. The more ram a machine has, the more you can say "it has a whole heap 'o memory." Duh. As for the stack, it's dangerous to stack more than two computers on top of each other, because it can make your programs run slow. ... Ok, I'm done. I admit those are pretty bad. Don't judge me, you're not even trying. :D :cool:
The early bird who catches the worm works for someone who comes in late and owns the worm farm. -- Travis McGee
Patrick Sears wrote:
As for the stack, it's dangerous to stack more than two computers on top of each other, because it can make your programs run slow.
no, no, no. It's not a speed issue, it's stability. Normal PC cases weren't designed to be stacked and are much more likely to crash if stacked.
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Patrick Sears wrote:
As for the stack, it's dangerous to stack more than two computers on top of each other, because it can make your programs run slow.
no, no, no. It's not a speed issue, it's stability. Normal PC cases weren't designed to be stacked and are much more likely to crash if stacked.
-- If you view money as inherently evil, I view it as my duty to assist in making you more virtuous.
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dan neely wrote:
Normal PC cases weren't designed to be stacked and are much more likely to crash if stacked.
That's why you need the IRack!
Ahhhhhhhhhhh I can't take it anymore! :eek: [explodes]
The early bird who catches the worm works for someone who comes in late and owns the worm farm. -- Travis McGee
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Patrick Sears wrote:
As for the stack, it's dangerous to stack more than two computers on top of each other, because it can make your programs run slow.
no, no, no. It's not a speed issue, it's stability. Normal PC cases weren't designed to be stacked and are much more likely to crash if stacked.
-- If you view money as inherently evil, I view it as my duty to assist in making you more virtuous.
dan neely wrote:
likely to crash
That explains a lot. Thanks. I thought maybe it was something I did wrong. BDF
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Ahhhhhhhhhhh I can't take it anymore! :eek: [explodes]
The early bird who catches the worm works for someone who comes in late and owns the worm farm. -- Travis McGee
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:laugh::laugh::laugh: Thanks I needed a good afternoon laugh before I head out to freedom and enlightenment!
Hehe anytime. Have a good one :)
The early bird who catches the worm works for someone who comes in late and owns the worm farm. -- Travis McGee
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:laugh::laugh::laugh: Thanks I needed a good afternoon laugh before I head out to freedom and enlightenment!
Ah, and here we were trying to put you over the 5000 posts mark. ;)
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I work the largest employer in Pittsburgh but I have been in a development team of 2 to 3 programmers for my whole career (last 10.5 years) so I am not sure. I enjoy my job for the most part but I do work long hours at times which sometimes makes me want to look elsewhere. I think the best part of the job for me is that although my main part of my job is programming (I have written 500K lines of MFC code), I am the main network admin, I provide help desk support for a team of 20, I do all the computer purchases / installs, I repair all the computers, I am the main db/web page admin, I now have some managerial duties that extend beyond the programming staff, I move desks and install white boards, perform minor repairs of the facility ... So basically the diversity of the position is what I like most. I can not see having more than one or two of these roles if I go to a larger development team so maybe my answer is small company/team.
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John
500k, that's a decent chunk of code! Comparing to what I've seen the last year that'd be at least around 5 man years or so.
Wout
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Would you generally prefer to work in a large company with a large IT department, or a small company where there are only a handful of developers? Each has advantages I think, but I'll provide a few anecdotal tales here for reference. Several years ago, I worked in a software house with about 50 other software engineers. There were multiple teams of people working on multiple projects. If you needed help with something, there was always someone who could help. After a while, each person fell into a niche area of expertise (mine was the tree control for some reason!). Keep in mind that at this time, there was only one computer connected to the Internet via dial-up, and the quarterly MSDN updates were a source of great excitement. So, having such a large and varied group of software developers was a huge bonus, as there was always someone to share ideas with. Conversely, at my current position I am one of only three developers and I am solely responsible for the new in-house application to replace their legacy system. The other 2 guys are the team leader and the website developer. We are a very close team and get along really well. The small company atmosphere (as well as the nature of our business) means that everyone is pretty relaxed. I'm not really sure where I'm going with this post - I'm really just curious if people prefer a large or small company. Personally, I'd take a small company any day of the week.
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I prefer smaller. It's much harder for management to hide things and you know a lot more about what is going on and can feel you have a bigger impact. On the other hand, I was once employee 007 (me and James Bond ;) ) in a startup and when things go sour, they go sour quickly and your only recourse is the door. Just depends on your fear of the door. I never kept more in my office than I could get into my car in one trip.
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