A little F# for you
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Steve Echols wrote:
Whoa!
My sentiments exactly! The hardest part about learning F#, for me, is the fact that it has both new syntax and new concepts (well, new for me anyways). I must say, though, that I haven't had this much geeky fun in a long time! There's nothing better than freeing your mind a little bit, and thinking about things from a totally different perspective. :-D
:josh: My WPF Blog[^] Without a strive for perfection I would be terribly bored.
Actually, looking at your example a little closer and figuring out the syntax, that does look pretty damn cool!
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Josh Smith wrote:
'head::tail' means "if it exists, remove the first item in the list
Wouldnt that just destructure your input list into 'head' and 'tail' variable? Perhaps the '::' has special meaning? :confused:
xacc.ide
The rule of three: "The first time you notice something that might repeat, don't generalize it. The second time the situation occurs, develop in a similar fashion -- possibly even copy/paste -- but don't generalize yet. On the third time, look to generalize the approach."leppie wrote:
Wouldnt that just destructure your input list into 'head' and 'tail' variable? Perhaps the '::' has special meaning?
Keep in mind, I've only been studying F# for a few days now. But, my current understanding is that F# uses the x::y syntax for dealing with its "list" type. You can create a list, or pull one apart, with that :: operator. AFAIK, writing "head::tail" (or foo::goo) is a way of saying "Give me the first cell in the list, and then also give me the remainder of the list."
:josh: My WPF Blog[^] Without a strive for perfection I would be terribly bored.
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I've been studying F# a lot recently and find it really mind-bending. Tomas Petricek, a fellow CPian, let me sneak preview his series of F# articles and they are very good. I took one of his examples and modified it a bit. The following code displays "sum = 6", but how that happens is other-worldly...check it out:
#light
let rec sum nums =
match nums with
| head::tail -> head + sum(tail)
| [] -> 0
printf "sum = %i" (sum [1; 2; 3])Weird, eh? F# is coooool. :cool:
:josh: My WPF Blog[^] Without a strive for perfection I would be terribly bored.
Having studied Miranda for far longer than humanely reasonable, nearly 6 months, the example given just looks like a very syntactically ineffecient list comprehension. List comprehensions are fantastically powerful once you've wrapped your head around how to use them. There is a more fundamental problem here though:- Purely functional and declarative languages set out to tell the computer what result you want but provide no way to specify how the computer is to get the result, or what it should do with it. Purely procedural languages tell the computer exactly what to do but it's very hard for a person to determine from reading one what the expected result might be. Both of these approaches have merit but are only properly leveraged when they are 'pure'. As soon as you mix the concepts together you loose the benefits of both without gaining the advantages of either. The worst aspects of C++ for example are the ones that are partially declarative at run time like, There exists a giblet called thing => giblet thing = new giblet;. These areas are where the opaqueness that causes most problems with learning, correctness and performance come in. As F# appears, like 'managed' C++ to be an attempt to mix these approaches, albeit biased towards the functional I guess it will fail just as spectacularly. What is really needed is a pure functional language that manipulates primitives which themsleves are purely procedural components, a kind of functional COM. stl gets a little way and Boost a little further but both are hamstrung by language limitations. We're not there yet :)
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Douglas Troy wrote:
You know your a nerd when ...
Takes one to know one. ;P
:josh: My WPF Blog[^] Without a strive for perfection I would be terribly bored.
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Thats simply a map/reduce pattern, also called folding. Here is a Scheme example:
(define (fold func accum lst)
(if (null? lst)
accum
(fold func (func accum (car lst)) (cdr lst))))(define (sum . lst) (fold + 0 lst))
(display "sum = ")
(display (sum 1 2 3)) ; prints 6 (0 + 1 + 2 + 3)
(newline)(define (product . lst) (fold * 1 lst))
(display "product = ")
(display (product 1 2 3)) ; prints 6 (1 * 1 * 2 * 3)xacc.ide
The rule of three: "The first time you notice something that might repeat, don't generalize it. The second time the situation occurs, develop in a similar fashion -- possibly even copy/paste -- but don't generalize yet. On the third time, look to generalize the approach."Nice. :cool:
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I've been studying F# a lot recently and find it really mind-bending. Tomas Petricek, a fellow CPian, let me sneak preview his series of F# articles and they are very good. I took one of his examples and modified it a bit. The following code displays "sum = 6", but how that happens is other-worldly...check it out:
#light
let rec sum nums =
match nums with
| head::tail -> head + sum(tail)
| [] -> 0
printf "sum = %i" (sum [1; 2; 3])Weird, eh? F# is coooool. :cool:
:josh: My WPF Blog[^] Without a strive for perfection I would be terribly bored.
Josh Smith wrote:
Weird, eh? F# is coooool.
I think we need to explore your childhood, Josh. Marc
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F# you too.
Faith is a fine invention For gentlemen who see; But microscopes are prudent In an emergency! -Emily Dickinson
David Kentley wrote:
F# you too.
hahaha ;P
:josh: My WPF Blog[^] Without a strive for perfection I would be terribly bored.
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I've been studying F# a lot recently and find it really mind-bending. Tomas Petricek, a fellow CPian, let me sneak preview his series of F# articles and they are very good. I took one of his examples and modified it a bit. The following code displays "sum = 6", but how that happens is other-worldly...check it out:
#light
let rec sum nums =
match nums with
| head::tail -> head + sum(tail)
| [] -> 0
printf "sum = %i" (sum [1; 2; 3])Weird, eh? F# is coooool. :cool:
:josh: My WPF Blog[^] Without a strive for perfection I would be terribly bored.
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I've been studying F# a lot recently and find it really mind-bending. Tomas Petricek, a fellow CPian, let me sneak preview his series of F# articles and they are very good. I took one of his examples and modified it a bit. The following code displays "sum = 6", but how that happens is other-worldly...check it out:
#light
let rec sum nums =
match nums with
| head::tail -> head + sum(tail)
| [] -> 0
printf "sum = %i" (sum [1; 2; 3])Weird, eh? F# is coooool. :cool:
:josh: My WPF Blog[^] Without a strive for perfection I would be terribly bored.
Strangely reminiscent of Lisp as well.
Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.
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I've been studying F# a lot recently and find it really mind-bending. Tomas Petricek, a fellow CPian, let me sneak preview his series of F# articles and they are very good. I took one of his examples and modified it a bit. The following code displays "sum = 6", but how that happens is other-worldly...check it out:
#light
let rec sum nums =
match nums with
| head::tail -> head + sum(tail)
| [] -> 0
printf "sum = %i" (sum [1; 2; 3])Weird, eh? F# is coooool. :cool:
:josh: My WPF Blog[^] Without a strive for perfection I would be terribly bored.
So, you're declaring a function called sum, and it's recursive (the rec part). It takes a parameter called nums. I see some pattern matching going on, but I start getting lost after that. :) Care to explain? *edit*, nevermind, I see you posted comments in another post that explain it. Thanks.
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Josh Smith wrote:
Weird, eh? F# is coooool.
I think we need to explore your childhood, Josh. Marc
Marc Clifton wrote:
I think we need to explore your childhood, Josh.
:laugh: I was raised by a pack of wolves, and ate peyote for breakfast.
:josh: My WPF Blog[^] Without a strive for perfection I would be terribly bored.
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So, you're declaring a function called sum, and it's recursive (the rec part). It takes a parameter called nums. I see some pattern matching going on, but I start getting lost after that. :) Care to explain? *edit*, nevermind, I see you posted comments in another post that explain it. Thanks.
Tech, life, family, faith: Give me a visit. I'm currently blogging about: No, Not I - A poem by Holocaust escapee, chief rabbi, and Messiah-follower Daniel Zion The apostle Paul, modernly speaking: Epistles of Paul Judah Himango
:josh: My WPF Blog[^] Without a strive for perfection I would be terribly bored.
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F# you too.
Faith is a fine invention For gentlemen who see; But microscopes are prudent In an emergency! -Emily Dickinson
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
Looks like a bastardization of dBase2 and interpreted basic.
Something tells me that you won't be an F# "early adopter." :)
:josh: My WPF Blog[^] Without a strive for perfection I would be terribly bored.
If it took me almost 7 years to start coding in .net, you can imagine how excited I am about F#...
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Marc Clifton wrote:
I think we need to explore your childhood, Josh.
:laugh: I was raised by a pack of wolves, and ate peyote for breakfast.
:josh: My WPF Blog[^] Without a strive for perfection I would be terribly bored.
Josh Smith wrote:
I was raised by a pack of wolves
we might be related! ;P
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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Ravel H. Joyce wrote:
But no, I won't do anything like that. I promise.
Ok good. Like I said you are a very smart kid, and drugs would only ruin your hopes, dreams, and your desire to be a good, honest person. It will kill your zest for life! You really should remove that Hansen song from your signature though, and stop listenting to that crap. That will also ruin your life!:laugh::laugh::laugh::cool:
I get all the news I need from the weather report - Paul Simon (from "The Only Living Boy in New York")
Justin Perez wrote:
stop listenting to that crap
:suss: ... ... ... ...I almost didn't change it, you know...'Mmmbop' is fun! You're killing my zest for life.
"Who wants waffles? We got a new album out...it's called 10,000 Days. Buy it so I can afford waffles." -Maynard James Keenan
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yes, but the big question is... is He dreaming of F#?
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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Strangely reminiscent of Lisp as well.
Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.
everything old is new again....
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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Not very different than prolog or scheme (my favorite language). Prolog:
sum([X | Y], Z) :- sum(Y, A), Z is A + X.
sum([], 0).Scheme:
(define sum (lambda (x)
(if (null? x) 0 (+ (car x) (sum (cdr x))))))Co-Author ASP.NET AJAX in Action
Scheme and its never ending parens reminds me of this XKCD on Lisp[^]. :)
Tech, life, family, faith: Give me a visit. I'm currently blogging about: No, Not I - A poem by Holocaust escapee, chief rabbi, and Messiah-follower Daniel Zion The apostle Paul, modernly speaking: Epistles of Paul Judah Himango
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yes, but the big question is... is He dreaming of F#?
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
