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  • C Chris Maunder

    That looks like a huge advancement in clarity and code maintainability. (Where's the sarcasm icon when I need it)

    cheers, Chris Maunder

    CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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    Fatbuddha 1
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    Really a nice reply!! :laugh: Cheers

    You have the thought that modern physics just relay on assumptions, that somehow depends on a smile of a cat, which isn’t there.( Albert Einstein)

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    • J Josh Smith

      I've been studying F# a lot recently and find it really mind-bending.  Tomas Petricek, a fellow CPian, let me sneak preview his series of F# articles and they are very good.  I took one of his examples and modified it a bit.  The following code displays "sum = 6", but how that happens is other-worldly...check it out:

      #light

      let rec sum nums =
        match nums with
        | head::tail -> head + sum(tail)
        | [] -> 0
       
      printf "sum = %i" (sum [1; 2; 3])

      Weird, eh?   F# is coooool. :cool:

      :josh: My WPF Blog[^] Without a strive for perfection I would be terribly bored.

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      Rich Leyshon
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      Superb, just a couple of possible improvements that could be made: 1) Replace all readable characters with further punctuation marks 2) Put a C somewhere in the name of the language and hey presto - mainstream! Rich

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      • J Josh Smith

        I've been studying F# a lot recently and find it really mind-bending.  Tomas Petricek, a fellow CPian, let me sneak preview his series of F# articles and they are very good.  I took one of his examples and modified it a bit.  The following code displays "sum = 6", but how that happens is other-worldly...check it out:

        #light

        let rec sum nums =
          match nums with
          | head::tail -> head + sum(tail)
          | [] -> 0
         
        printf "sum = %i" (sum [1; 2; 3])

        Weird, eh?   F# is coooool. :cool:

        :josh: My WPF Blog[^] Without a strive for perfection I would be terribly bored.

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        redflyingpig
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        I just don't get the point of yet another functional language before all those 'mainstream' FPs such as Haskell or Scheme become widely accepted by programmers. They have developed over 10 years and are much more mature than this F# thing, which by the look of this tiny program, is not syntactically attractive at all compared with those mentioned above. And I simply don't like their attitudes of trying to 'go mainstream' by the support of .Net while ignoring the efforts and accomplishments already put and gained in the functional programming area.

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        • J Josh Smith

          I've been studying F# a lot recently and find it really mind-bending.  Tomas Petricek, a fellow CPian, let me sneak preview his series of F# articles and they are very good.  I took one of his examples and modified it a bit.  The following code displays "sum = 6", but how that happens is other-worldly...check it out:

          #light

          let rec sum nums =
            match nums with
            | head::tail -> head + sum(tail)
            | [] -> 0
           
          printf "sum = %i" (sum [1; 2; 3])

          Weird, eh?   F# is coooool. :cool:

          :josh: My WPF Blog[^] Without a strive for perfection I would be terribly bored.

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          MajorTom123
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          Josh, There are always people to make up a new language to do something, but no one to modify an existing language to do that too. Some things cannot be accomplished in previous languages, but I believe there is alot that can be done, instead of making up a new language, and then the creators of that language have to come up with terms no one understands because the words used are not used the same way in that language. *taking a breath right now* F# looks like APL, and LISP and Haskell, etc... I agree with some of the newer ideas about iterative approaches, but someone HAS to be smart enough to be able to present it clearly and in a maintainable manner in a language. I think that's a summary of all of the posts. No one can comment on the language because you haven't spelled out what each line is accomplishing. If you did that, then you may be able to move people to look into the language further. To me its just another language that is either so specialized we'll never use it or another one of the languages that proclaims itself to be able to kill all other languages. I still use C alot. Supposed to be killed by C++, which was killed by Java which was killed by C# which only runs on one platform with work being partly done on another platform. Ruby is a web language killer, whereas Python was supposed to be, PHP before that, and Perl. The cynic rests his case.

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          • R Rich Leyshon

            Superb, just a couple of possible improvements that could be made: 1) Replace all readable characters with further punctuation marks 2) Put a C somewhere in the name of the language and hey presto - mainstream! Rich

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            MajorTom123
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            I second that, except make the Space character a functional part of the language. Why relegate the lonely space to nullability? Who played God and said the space was just a holding character? I make a motion that all spaces be removed and that the space become the "If" in the conditional statement. I further motion that W replace the space and a lowly holding character. Sample code: wwww ;=1w)=)+23 wwww#)=2 Could be written to make it pretty wwww ;w=w1w)w=w)w+w23 wwww#w)w=w2 That says if semicolon equals one then right parenthesis equals right parenthesis plus twenty three else right parenthesis equals two. OHHHH the elegance of it all. It is so clear and maintainable.

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            • G Gary Wheeler

              More like waking up the next morning and wondering what species is laying next to you.


              Software Zen: delete this;

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              mfhobbs
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              Just got func'ed by an alien.

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              • M Mike Dimmick

                It's for problems where you indicate what you want performed on every member of a list (map) or how you aggregate the contents of a list (reduce). In theory, because each of the operations is atomic (independent of the other items), in the case of the map operation, or the result of reducing the whole list is the same as reducing distinct subparts of the list then reducing the results of those suboperations, you can farm out subparts of the list to other cores to execute in parallel. Because it's implicit, the environment can scale the algorithm appropriately to the number of installed cores. Still, it's not much that a parallel foreach couldn't do. It's just we're not used to writing our programs as such discrete blobs of functionality, effectively putting half your program out-of-line. And I'm not sure that many of the programs we regularly use would benefit - your data set would have to be pretty big to overcome the cost of the inter-thread procedure calling required to get another core working on part of the problem. I'm not totally sure the MHz myth is as over as it seemed a few years ago. The 45nm generation with high-k dielectric looks like it may have solved or at least alleviated the leakage problems that caused such trouble with overheating when trying to ramp up the clock speeds. The Core 2 Duo E8500 is supposed to clock at 3.16GHz while keeping a Thermal Design Power of 65W (source[^]).


                DoEvents: Generating unexpected recursion since 1991

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                Dr Luiji
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                It's impossible to express better the right concept, but let me a bit more. F# is a functional programming language and this is its goal. But unfortunatly I think programmers will wanna take less time to deploy the application but they will take more time to thinking with this logic, more time to undestend after few months, more pc power... You can choose when use this or another language thinking in this.

                Dr.Luiji Trust and you'll be trusted.

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                • J Josh Smith

                  I've been studying F# a lot recently and find it really mind-bending.  Tomas Petricek, a fellow CPian, let me sneak preview his series of F# articles and they are very good.  I took one of his examples and modified it a bit.  The following code displays "sum = 6", but how that happens is other-worldly...check it out:

                  #light

                  let rec sum nums =
                    match nums with
                    | head::tail -> head + sum(tail)
                    | [] -> 0
                   
                  printf "sum = %i" (sum [1; 2; 3])

                  Weird, eh?   F# is coooool. :cool:

                  :josh: My WPF Blog[^] Without a strive for perfection I would be terribly bored.

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                  JigPu
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                  Wow that code looks familiar... Almost exactly like the ML code I'm studying in class... Guess I shouldn't be surpised after how similar C# is to Java :D

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                  • J Josh Smith

                    I've been studying F# a lot recently and find it really mind-bending.  Tomas Petricek, a fellow CPian, let me sneak preview his series of F# articles and they are very good.  I took one of his examples and modified it a bit.  The following code displays "sum = 6", but how that happens is other-worldly...check it out:

                    #light

                    let rec sum nums =
                      match nums with
                      | head::tail -> head + sum(tail)
                      | [] -> 0
                     
                    printf "sum = %i" (sum [1; 2; 3])

                    Weird, eh?   F# is coooool. :cool:

                    :josh: My WPF Blog[^] Without a strive for perfection I would be terribly bored.

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                    ClockMeister
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                    Oh man ... I thought Turbo Pascal was dead! -CB ;)

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                    • R Rocky Moore

                      Josh Smith wrote:

                      There's nothing better than freeing your mind a little bit,

                      As long as it does not fall out and get lost in the process :)

                      Rocky <>< Blog Post: MVC for ASP.NET! Tech Blog Post: Cheap Biofuels and Synthetics coming soon? Tech Sites: SilverlightCity.com ~ TheSilverlightDirectory.com ~ TheWPFDirectory.com

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                      JMOdom
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                      Josh Smith wrote: There's nothing better than freeing your mind a little bit, Rocky Moore wrote: As long as it does not fall out and get lost in the process As a wiseman(?) once about his mind wandering: "Don't worry, its small and feeble and can't get far." ;P:laugh:

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                      • C ClockMeister

                        Oh man ... I thought Turbo Pascal was dead! -CB ;)

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                        JMOdom
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                        Pardon my stupidity, but I've been away from the coding scene for about a year and a half. :confused::doh:Just what is F#, and when did it come out? Thank you. X|

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                        • J JMOdom

                          Josh Smith wrote: There's nothing better than freeing your mind a little bit, Rocky Moore wrote: As long as it does not fall out and get lost in the process As a wiseman(?) once about his mind wandering: "Don't worry, its small and feeble and can't get far." ;P:laugh:

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                          Rocky Moore
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                          :laugh:

                          Rocky <>< Blog Post: MVC for ASP.NET! Tech Blog Post: Cheap Biofuels and Synthetics coming soon?

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                          • M martin_hughes

                            The daft thing is that they could have designed the syntax to be clear and maintainable, but instead went down the path of ghastly and even more ghastly.

                            Me: Can you see the "up" arrow? User:Errr...ummm....no. Me: Can you see an arrow that points upwards? User: Oh yes, I see it now! -Excerpt from a support call taken by me, 08/31/2007

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                            Tim Yen
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                            That is soooo true! Why do functional programmers always want bizarre syntax that is not readable? Job security? Tim

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                            • J JMOdom

                              Pardon my stupidity, but I've been away from the coding scene for about a year and a half. :confused::doh:Just what is F#, and when did it come out? Thank you. X|

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                              ClockMeister
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                              Don't feel stupid - I only just heard about it myself. I guess it's another Dot-Net language they're coming out with. Not sure why we need yet another one but there you go. -CB :)

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                              • J Josh Smith

                                I've been studying F# a lot recently and find it really mind-bending.  Tomas Petricek, a fellow CPian, let me sneak preview his series of F# articles and they are very good.  I took one of his examples and modified it a bit.  The following code displays "sum = 6", but how that happens is other-worldly...check it out:

                                #light

                                let rec sum nums =
                                  match nums with
                                  | head::tail -> head + sum(tail)
                                  | [] -> 0
                                 
                                printf "sum = %i" (sum [1; 2; 3])

                                Weird, eh?   F# is coooool. :cool:

                                :josh: My WPF Blog[^] Without a strive for perfection I would be terribly bored.

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                                Guillaume Ranslant
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                                This looks extremely similar to CAML/OCAML[^]/SML

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