Parent's question
-
Alvaro Mendez wrote: I'd do everything possible to persuade her to terminate the pregnancy. Alvaro Mendez wrote: with the hope that the experience would also make her a more mature and responsible person. How would you expect your daughter to turn out responsible when she has her dad trying to convince her that she should terminate an unborn baby out of convenience? -Jack To an optimist the glass is half full. To a pessimist the glass is half empty. To a programmer the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.
That is the problem with families - no-one can tell you how to bring up your own kids, but you can always tell other's how to bring up theirs. ____________________ David Wulff "You don't go to the kitchen to take a piss - if you do, don't expect to be served." - peterchen on Bill SerGio. "I've squeezed off turds that had more going for them then you do." - John Simmons on Bill SerGio "Ohh ohhh aahhh ahhh ahh ahhh oohhhh yeeeessss ohhhh aahhhhh yesssss!" - Me on Bill SerGio
-
Christian Graus wrote: School is not the lowest common denominator either. I grew up poor so it was were I went. Practically every student was ten times worse than the "Bogans" you have in Australia. I would never submit my children to what I experienced in school. I was beaten up and punched every single day. I made it my mission to make something of myself, and I will offer my childern the protection and nurturing that they deserve. I won't let some miss-informed people ruin my kid's lives.
Martin Marvinski wrote: I made it my mission to make something of myself, and I will offer my childern the protection and nurturing that they deserve. I won't let some miss-informed people ruin my kid's lives. I applaud this, but let me open a window into the other side of the tracks. My parents never showed me affection, but they had plenty of money. I went to a number of schools, and the private schools were where I was bullied the most and had easiest access to drugs and pr0n. Ultimately the idea that people with money are insulated from the spectrum of human behaviour is false. I am determined that Hannah learn to judge people according to who they are, not what their standing in society is. Obviously I don't want her to be playing with drug pushers, but they will be there, unless I homeschool her, and as I have said, I don't believe I do her any favours by hiding her from life. Christian I am completely intolerant of stupidity. Stupidity is, of course, anything that doesn't conform to my way of thinking. - Jamie Hale - 29/05/2002 Half the reason people switch away from VB is to find out what actually goes on.. and then like me they find out that they weren't quite as good as they thought - they've been nannied. - Alex, 13 June 2002
-
Bao Nguyen wrote: Basically, my point is that you can tell them homosexuality is not normal, but if they are already homosexual, I don't think it will help them change. I would agree with this to a point. I think lesbianism in particular is very trendy nowadays, I certainly see womens magazines pushing the issue, and we all know the women who read them mostly have a pack mentality. So I believe that some people of both sexes get an incorrect dosage of hormones in the womb and find themselves homosexual, but girls in particular are likely to experiment for more social than hormonal reasons. Having said that, I'm with Colin. Christian I am completely intolerant of stupidity. Stupidity is, of course, anything that doesn't conform to my way of thinking. - Jamie Hale - 29/05/2002 Half the reason people switch away from VB is to find out what actually goes on.. and then like me they find out that they weren't quite as good as they thought - they've been nannied. - Alex, 13 June 2002
Yeah, there appears to be a phenomenon apparently of girls who go from being straight to lesbian to bisexual and straight again. A lot of people would like to hide this fact. Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
More about me :-)
-
From what I have heard from homosexual friends, and friends who know homosexuals, homosexuality is not a conscious choice. Rather, it is just the way they are. Someone wrote something once that went something like follows: "Why would I choose to be discriminated against, made fun of, and be regarded with disgust? Homosexuality was not a choice for me." Basically, my point is that you can tell them homosexuality is not normal, but if they are already homosexual, I don't think it will help them change.
Bao Nguyen wrote: From what I have heard from homosexual friends, and friends who know homosexuals, homosexuality is not a conscious choice. Thats hearsay. Why is there no current research on this ? Where are the Scientific studies ? Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
More about me :-)
-
Martin Marvinski wrote: I think most girls are pressured into it by rude guys who are just after one thing. Do you believe that girls don't like it ? Martin Marvinski wrote: Most girls could resist in the past because society taught them that their virignity was special. Nowadays, teachers are saying that it isn't special, and they should give in if they wear a condom. I think you're right to a degree. Girls are more influenced by social pressure, but it's also probably true they are generally more level headed than guys. Christian I am completely intolerant of stupidity. Stupidity is, of course, anything that doesn't conform to my way of thinking. - Jamie Hale - 29/05/2002 Half the reason people switch away from VB is to find out what actually goes on.. and then like me they find out that they weren't quite as good as they thought - they've been nannied. - Alex, 13 June 2002
Christian Graus wrote: Girls are more influenced by social pressure, but it's also probably true they are generally more level headed than guys. I agree with this and my daughter has been able to be fairly open with me in talking about how important her friends are and how important feeling accepted by her friends was (is). We guys do not appreciate how much. FYI the critical time for her was in the early teen years. Make sure you are there when she needs to talk. One bit of advice; I take my daughter out to a quite restaurant that is "our place", my wife knows this and never asks to go there, it allows us to time to talk even when we get to busy. To be conscious that you are ignorant of the facts is a great step towards Knowledge. Benjamin Disraeli
-
Christian Graus wrote: Girls are more influenced by social pressure, but it's also probably true they are generally more level headed than guys. I agree with this and my daughter has been able to be fairly open with me in talking about how important her friends are and how important feeling accepted by her friends was (is). We guys do not appreciate how much. FYI the critical time for her was in the early teen years. Make sure you are there when she needs to talk. One bit of advice; I take my daughter out to a quite restaurant that is "our place", my wife knows this and never asks to go there, it allows us to time to talk even when we get to busy. To be conscious that you are ignorant of the facts is a great step towards Knowledge. Benjamin Disraeli
Michael A. Barnhart wrote: One bit of advice; I take my daughter out to a quite restaurant that is "our place", my wife knows this and never asks to go there, it allows us to time to talk even when we get to busy. Cool idea - thanks !!! Christian I am completely intolerant of stupidity. Stupidity is, of course, anything that doesn't conform to my way of thinking. - Jamie Hale - 29/05/2002 Half the reason people switch away from VB is to find out what actually goes on.. and then like me they find out that they weren't quite as good as they thought - they've been nannied. - Alex, 13 June 2002
-
Michael A. Barnhart wrote: One bit of advice; I take my daughter out to a quite restaurant that is "our place", my wife knows this and never asks to go there, it allows us to time to talk even when we get to busy. Cool idea - thanks !!! Christian I am completely intolerant of stupidity. Stupidity is, of course, anything that doesn't conform to my way of thinking. - Jamie Hale - 29/05/2002 Half the reason people switch away from VB is to find out what actually goes on.. and then like me they find out that they weren't quite as good as they thought - they've been nannied. - Alex, 13 June 2002
It is a good idea, I do similar things with my kids. I think apart from us being a family, its good to have individual relationships with your kids. Just My Opinion. Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
More about me :-)
-
Christian Graus wrote: I think the condom idea is dumb. It's one step removed from the problem - people caring enough to put some time into their kids. I'm afraid to have kids. If you turn on the TV, everything is almost pornographic. In the 1950's and 60's shows like "I love Lucy" had strict standards about what viewers were allowed to see. Lucy and her husband had seperate beds, and there was none of this over sexuality. The school system is just horrible. The stuff I learned in health class was appalling. They showed us how to put on condoms using very graphic drawings, and mind you that we were only around 14 and 15 years old. If I ever have childern, I will send them to a private school most definatly. I just don't know what those liberal kooks are doing anymore. What we were taught in High School was that everything is OK. What ever floats your boat. If you want to be gay, thats fine. Have sex with multiple partners, just use condoms! Kids will always do what they want was their logic. I think we need more conservatives in education.
Martin Marvinski wrote: Lucy and her husband had seperate beds, and there was none of this over sexuality. Well, at some point that just gets ridiculous... What's the child supposed to think of Lucy's family when he sees that his *own* parents share a bed? Or vice-versa? Procreation is as vital a part of God's creation as anything else; it is your duty to ensure your children understand when and how it is appropriate. This whole "sex is a dirty, shameful thing, save it for the one you truly love" attitude is rather unhealthy IMHO. Martin Marvinski wrote: If I ever have childern, I will send them to a private school most definatly. I just don't know what those liberal kooks are doing anymore. I hesitate to suggest this, but- if you *really* care about what your children learn and how they learn it, maybe you should consider teaching them yourself. What better way to see that they are brought up to understand what you believe? --------
Have you hugged your monitor today?
--Shog9 --
-
Christian Graus wrote: Girls are more influenced by social pressure, but it's also probably true they are generally more level headed than guys. I agree with this and my daughter has been able to be fairly open with me in talking about how important her friends are and how important feeling accepted by her friends was (is). We guys do not appreciate how much. FYI the critical time for her was in the early teen years. Make sure you are there when she needs to talk. One bit of advice; I take my daughter out to a quite restaurant that is "our place", my wife knows this and never asks to go there, it allows us to time to talk even when we get to busy. To be conscious that you are ignorant of the facts is a great step towards Knowledge. Benjamin Disraeli
Good Idea! I do something similar (Park walk if it's nice) so we can chat. Natasha is too young to have 'those' sorts of chats, but I make sure we have some time together so we can talk about whatever she wants. Hopefully, when she's older the habit will stick and we can continue these chats. At the very least, she'll know that I'm available for her when she needs me. Paresh Solanki "Creativity is allowing yourself to make mistakes. Art is knowing which ones to keep." Scott Adams (Dilbert cartoonist)
-
That is the problem with families - no-one can tell you how to bring up your own kids, but you can always tell other's how to bring up theirs. ____________________ David Wulff "You don't go to the kitchen to take a piss - if you do, don't expect to be served." - peterchen on Bill SerGio. "I've squeezed off turds that had more going for them then you do." - John Simmons on Bill SerGio "Ohh ohhh aahhh ahhh ahh ahhh oohhhh yeeeessss ohhhh aahhhhh yesssss!" - Me on Bill SerGio
David Wulff wrote: "Ohh ohhh aahhh ahhh ahh ahhh oohhhh yeeeessss ohhhh aahhhhh yesssss!" - Me on Bill SerGio Bill must like you :) :) Paresh Solanki "Creativity is allowing yourself to make mistakes. Art is knowing which ones to keep." Scott Adams (Dilbert cartoonist)
-
Bao Nguyen wrote: Why would I choose to be discriminated against, made fun of, and be regarded with disgust? And yet, some people still choose to wear mullets... --------
Have you hugged your monitor today?
--Shog9 --
Aaaaaaaaaahahahahaahhahahah! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: "The lives of these people are contingent on events; if things stop happening to them they will stop being." "Rock over London, rock over Chicago..." -Wesley Willis
-
Spot the guy with no kids. I think you're right that a big problem today is bad or no parenting. But I do not believe there is ANYTHING I can do which will FORCE my child to live a certain way. All I can do is better arm her and hope that she uses that to help her make good choices. Then again, do you remember how hormonal you were at 15 ? Christian I am completely intolerant of stupidity. Stupidity is, of course, anything that doesn't conform to my way of thinking. - Jamie Hale - 29/05/2002 Half the reason people switch away from VB is to find out what actually goes on.. and then like me they find out that they weren't quite as good as they thought - they've been nannied. - Alex, 13 June 2002
I AM 15!!!!!!!!
:bob: Email: theeclypse@hotmail.com URL: http://www.onyeyiri.co.uk:bob:
"What goes up must come down. Ask any system administrator"
-
From what I have heard from homosexual friends, and friends who know homosexuals, homosexuality is not a conscious choice. Rather, it is just the way they are. Someone wrote something once that went something like follows: "Why would I choose to be discriminated against, made fun of, and be regarded with disgust? Homosexuality was not a choice for me." Basically, my point is that you can tell them homosexuality is not normal, but if they are already homosexual, I don't think it will help them change.
Bao Nguyen wrote: "Why would I choose to be discriminated against, made fun of, and be regarded with disgust? Homosexuality was not a choice for me." I was about to completely agree, but then I thought pick a religion. Bao Nguyen wrote: Basically, my point is that you can tell them homosexuality is not normal, but if they are already homosexual, I don't think it will help them change. Why do a significant proportion of homosexuals get married? I guess because all the married homosexuals I read about who are 'outed' were born in an age less (sexuality bias) tollerant that then one we live in. Kenny Everett comes to mind who married for companionship - sadly missed. Alice thought that running very fast for a long time would get you to somewhere else. " A very slow kind of country!" said the queen. "Now, here , you see, it takes all the running you can do, to keep in the same place".
-
Spot the guy with no kids. I think you're right that a big problem today is bad or no parenting. But I do not believe there is ANYTHING I can do which will FORCE my child to live a certain way. All I can do is better arm her and hope that she uses that to help her make good choices. Then again, do you remember how hormonal you were at 15 ? Christian I am completely intolerant of stupidity. Stupidity is, of course, anything that doesn't conform to my way of thinking. - Jamie Hale - 29/05/2002 Half the reason people switch away from VB is to find out what actually goes on.. and then like me they find out that they weren't quite as good as they thought - they've been nannied. - Alex, 13 June 2002
Christian Graus wrote: arm her and hope .. and him. "Your son has made my daughter pregnant." Too true. We hope to make it easier by being relatively approachable about sexual matters.. but still most of us 'learn' most things at school from friends. Perhaps we'll get a boost from the Internet - but it's kinda difficult to not to ban educational sites vs. Pr0n. Alice thought that running very fast for a long time would get you to somewhere else. " A very slow kind of country!" said the queen. "Now, here , you see, it takes all the running you can do, to keep in the same place".
-
Christian Graus wrote: To be honest, my philosophy is that school is a reflection on the world, so why shelter them ? Better to teach them what is right and also how to live in a world that is wrong than try to hide them from it. Criminals, and prostitutes are also part of the world, but would you take your child to the worst part of the neighborhood for them to see it? There are plenty of gated communities and areas where like minded people with morals live and work. The world is not just the lowest common denominator.
Martin Marvinski wrote: Criminals, and prostitutes are also part of the world, but would you take your child to the worst part of the neighborhood for them to see it? Lest they go there themselves anyway. Alice thought that running very fast for a long time would get you to somewhere else. " A very slow kind of country!" said the queen. "Now, here , you see, it takes all the running you can do, to keep in the same place".
-
Although if you're not parents, you can still post your opinions. Today, in the UK, it was anounced that contraceptives were to be given out free to schoolchildren in an effort to reduce teenage pregnancy. I'm the father of a beautiful (biased opinion) six year old girl, so I have a few years before I need to worry about this problem, but... If you had a young girl and despite all your little chats, lectures and everything else, your 'little' girl comes home one day and says 'I'm Pregnant' What would you do? Would you support her, whether she decided to have the baby, or a termination. Would you persuade her to have/terminate the baby in line with *your* wishes, kick her out of the house or what? Paresh Solanki "Creativity is allowing yourself to make mistakes. Art is knowing which ones to keep." Scott Adams (Dilbert cartoonist)
Well since I have two sons but no daughters this isn't likely to come up....but if it did I hope I'd support her to the best of my ability without anger or predjudice...but being acutely aware of my own failings I suspect I'd fall short in some way (as most of us do). After all, we can only do our best, and then kick ourselves for mucking it up afterwards. :rolleyes: Andy Metcalfe - Sonardyne International Ltd
Trouble with resource IDs? Try the Resource ID Organiser Add-In for Visual C++
"I would be careful in separating your wierdness, a good quirky weirdness, from the disturbed wierdness of people who take pleasure from PVC sheep with fruit repositories." - Paul Watson -
IMHO as a 15 year old, if you raise ur daughter in the right way, you need not worry about this.
:bob: Email: theeclypse@hotmail.com URL: http://www.onyeyiri.co.uk:bob:
"What goes up must come down. Ask any system administrator"
I think you only ever get your child opinion on how she was raised after the period has ended! Alice thought that running very fast for a long time would get you to somewhere else. " A very slow kind of country!" said the queen. "Now, here , you see, it takes all the running you can do, to keep in the same place".
-
Well since I have two sons but no daughters this isn't likely to come up....but if it did I hope I'd support her to the best of my ability without anger or predjudice...but being acutely aware of my own failings I suspect I'd fall short in some way (as most of us do). After all, we can only do our best, and then kick ourselves for mucking it up afterwards. :rolleyes: Andy Metcalfe - Sonardyne International Ltd
Trouble with resource IDs? Try the Resource ID Organiser Add-In for Visual C++
"I would be careful in separating your wierdness, a good quirky weirdness, from the disturbed wierdness of people who take pleasure from PVC sheep with fruit repositories." - Paul WatsonThere's a knock on the door and some 8 foot guy fashioned in the shape of a gorilla, accompanied by two stiffs resembling what can only be called mafioso, says: "My daughter is going to have your son's baby" Alice thought that running very fast for a long time would get you to somewhere else. " A very slow kind of country!" said the queen. "Now, here , you see, it takes all the running you can do, to keep in the same place".
-
There's a knock on the door and some 8 foot guy fashioned in the shape of a gorilla, accompanied by two stiffs resembling what can only be called mafioso, says: "My daughter is going to have your son's baby" Alice thought that running very fast for a long time would get you to somewhere else. " A very slow kind of country!" said the queen. "Now, here , you see, it takes all the running you can do, to keep in the same place".
LOL :wtf: Andy Metcalfe - Sonardyne International Ltd
Trouble with resource IDs? Try the Resource ID Organiser Add-In for Visual C++
"I would be careful in separating your wierdness, a good quirky weirdness, from the disturbed wierdness of people who take pleasure from PVC sheep with fruit repositories." - Paul Watson -
Although if you're not parents, you can still post your opinions. Today, in the UK, it was anounced that contraceptives were to be given out free to schoolchildren in an effort to reduce teenage pregnancy. I'm the father of a beautiful (biased opinion) six year old girl, so I have a few years before I need to worry about this problem, but... If you had a young girl and despite all your little chats, lectures and everything else, your 'little' girl comes home one day and says 'I'm Pregnant' What would you do? Would you support her, whether she decided to have the baby, or a termination. Would you persuade her to have/terminate the baby in line with *your* wishes, kick her out of the house or what? Paresh Solanki "Creativity is allowing yourself to make mistakes. Art is knowing which ones to keep." Scott Adams (Dilbert cartoonist)
I'd like to think that after 12-16 years of responsible parenting such issues will not even come up. Statisically speaking the teens most likely to become sexually active, smoke, drink, or do drugs are/were children of homes with absentee parents. The old cliches about having "the talks" with your kids seem to be true. Don't wait until they're already in the battle though. Start teaching her about responsiblity and consequences now while she's still young enough to listen. The only other advice I give is to be an excellent example of how a man should treat a woman in your relationship with your signifigant other. After growing up in a home with two parents who respected each other, she'll be less likely to fall for some smooth talking joker who simply snowed her with a bunch of sweet talk just to get her in the back seat of a car. The best sermon is a good example. "Tell me about the god you don't believe in, and I probably wouldn't believe in him either." - Unknown